Gatsby product sucks except for its clay. The money u spent on the wax and spray can almost get one loreal mud(freaking good). For your case i think use mud, clay or even try loreal out of bed.Originally posted by PlayGameAllDay:Currently im using Gatsby wax medium hold (grey one) for my thick and neck length hair, but then i realise my back can no longer stand like last time coz too long liao, worse still my hair is thick so is quite heavy it always sink lol. Any suggestions? Will waxing my back den use hairspray help it stand?