Who created God?
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I believe in God but it crops up in my mind once in a while, who created God? Well, enough abt all those 'God is a powerful ever existing entity and no one has to create God' answers. How could something just exist all of a sudden rite? There must be a source. I know God's mighty and all that but yeah, how did God came about? Just want to know ur opinions.
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100,000,000 billion years ago...there was this prokaryotic cell living creature that slowly evolved to become god..
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The same person that created the bible.
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From wat i believe God is not created but God is the creater....
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Standard answer from pastor: God has his own ways. We'll end up confusing ourselves even more if we ask more questions like that.
Maybe it's different. I haven't gone to church in ages. I'm sick and tired of the rampant hypocrisy in churches. Stupid politics and stupid guys going there just to look at girls. Go to hell, goddammit. -
All i can say is that god has "been around"
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Vizor. But God slayed him.
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The one created the Bible? when was the time paper and ink was invented?
People don't need ink and paper to write it down?
Singaporeans are getting really smarter nowadays and can think with their own undisturbed minds -
Originally posted by NuLife:The same person that created the bible.
this one good, *give that man a tiger -
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depends on the definition of God.
i believe God is like Dao in Chinese
if it can be visualized, can be understood, can be defined, then it is NOT the true meaning of God already, like Dao...
~ Dao ke dao, fei chang dao ~ -
God's god created god. On the day before the first day, God's god breathed life into god. and He spoketh unto god:"awaken my child, and embrace the glory that is thy birthright. know that thou art named God, and thou have been created to plunge the world into chaos." and thus agreed did God, and there was much rejoicing.
"thou hath to follow thy commandments." so sayeth God's God, one, thou shall create a world in seven days, two, thou shall create humans, three, thou shall not make thy appeareance before thy creations. " and agreed did God. and there was much rejoicing.
and when God's God hath gone. God sayethed:"I wonder who created GOd's God?" -
me know, me know, me knowOriginally posted by the.raven:and when God's God hath gone. God sayethed:"I wonder who created GOd's God?"
god's god's god!
mi cleavest in this forum. -
so smart!!Originally posted by findingnewidea:me know, me know, me know
god's god's god!
mi cleavest in this forum. -
god's father
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yi eh lau bu lah.
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If whatever caused the universe need not be supposed to have begun to exist (unlike the universe itself, which, because it began to exist, has to be supposed to have needed a cause), then we do not need to suppose that whatever caused the universe would itself have needed a cause.Originally posted by TruFaith`:I believe in God but it crops up in my mind once in a while, who created God? Well, enough abt all those 'God is a powerful ever existing entity and no one has to create God' answers. How could something just exist all of a sudden rite? There must be a source. I know God's mighty and all that but yeah, how did God came about? Just want to know ur opinions.
The cause of the universe need not be supposed therefore to have itself required a cause (or a creator); especially as we have no reason not to think that the beginning of the universe coincided with the beginning of time itself.
By Occam's razor (which forbids us to multiply hypotheses beyond necessity) we would be driven to seek a cause only for the universe's existing (or its having begun to exist), since anything that has begun to exist, would plausibly have needed to have been caused; but we would not likewise be bound to ask ourselves how the cause of the universe must itself have originated (assuming that it did in fact originate in some occurrence), when we have a reason for supposing that the cause in question must have been timeless.
Thus your statement that 'there must be a source' can only be held applicable to phenomena that we have reason to believe, had (in whatever sense) begun to exist; an entity that we don't have a reason to suppose must have begun to exist, would not be something that we would be bound to think of as something that would have needed to have a source for its existence.
In other words, we don't have a reason to suppose that God ever needed to 'come about'; and thus we have no reason to think that such a question would have to admit of a meaningful answer.
I hope this helps.
Ben (a Catholic Christian) -
believe in your unfailing faith
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if you believe there is a God, you have to also believe He has ALWAYS been.
if you dun believe how anything can ALWAYS be, then you dun believe in God.
simple...
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Even if you have to believe that God, if He exists at all, must have existed always, this would still not mean that you would have a reason for supposing that God exists; it would only mean rather that on the supposition that God exists, you would have to suppose that God was always in existence.Originally posted by starblue:if you believe there is a God, you have to also believe He has ALWAYS been.
if you dun believe how anything can ALWAYS be, then you dun believe in God.
simple...
Secondly, it might indeed be true that if you didn't believe that 'anything could always be', then you wouldn't be able to 'believe in God'; but the point to be made here is that this line of reasoning doesn't constitute a reason for supposing that there is in fact a God who exists.
If I believed in unicorns then I might be bound to believe that there are animals that have a horn on their foreheads; but is that a reason for me to believe in unicorns?
By the same token, if I didn't believe that there could be animals which grow a horn on each of their foreheads, then I wouldn't be able to believe in unicorns; but here again this would not mean that I would have a reason for supposing that such animals do in fact exist.
As a matter of fact, I do think that we have reasons for affirming that God exists; but none of them turn upon whatever it is that we might be said to be logically bound to believe about God, once we have established that He exists.
Ben (a Catholic Christian) -
-_-" do you notice the big words "BELIEVE"?? God exists because you believe he exists. and vice versa. it's a matter of belief, not a matter if whether or not He really does exist in real world and how to go about proving he does... -_-" i do not wish to go into a philosophical battle with you.Originally posted by MrBach:Even if you have to believe that God, if He exists at all, must have existed always, this would still not mean that you would have a reason for supposing that God exists; it would only mean rather that on the supposition that God exists, you would have to suppose that God was always in existence.
Secondly, it might indeed be true that if you didn't believe that 'anything could always be', then you wouldn't be able to 'believe in God'; but the point to be made here is that this line of reasoning doesn't constitute a reason for supposing that there is in fact a God who exists.
If I believed in unicorns then I might be bound to believe that there are animals that have a horn on their foreheads; but is that a reason for me to believe in unicorns?
By the same token, if I didn't believe that there could be animals which grow a horn on each of their foreheads, then I wouldn't be able to believe in unicorns; but here again this would not mean that I would have a reason for supposing that such animals do in fact exist.
As a matter of fact, I do think that we have reasons for affirming that God exists; but none of them turn upon whatever it is that we might be said to be logically bound to believe about God, once we have established that He exists.
Ben (a Catholic Christian) -
We created God.
God does not exist in the world we living, god exists in our mind.
They exist bcos we believe they exist. if we dun believe, they are not in our mind anymore.
Allah exist in muslim ppl's mind but Jesus is not there, cos they believe in Allah but not Jesus.
And the Jesus in my mind maybe different from the Jesus in your mind depending wat i have been told about jesus, wat i have seen and read about Jesus. -
If God's existence is a matter of my believing that He exists (and not instead a matter of whether or not He exists in the real world and of what reasons we may have for thinking that He exists in the real world), then are you saying:Originally posted by starblue:-_-" do you notice the big words "BELIEVE"?? God exists because you believe he exists. and vice versa. it's a matter of belief, not a matter if whether or not He really does exist in real world and how to go about proving he does... -_-" i do not wish to go into a philosophical battle with you.
1) It does not matter if God exists in the real world, so long as I personally believe that He exists.
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2) God would exist in the real world if I believed that He existed in teh real world (in opposition to or quite apart from whatever reasons I may have for thinking that He exists in the real world).
Christianity denies both these positions because it affirms:
1) It matters (or should matter to me) that whatever I believe exists, does indeed exist in the real world and is not a product of my imagination; and this matters (and should matter) supremely where the object of my belief is God.
2) My believing that something is the case does not actually serve to make it be the case; and my believing that God exists does not serve to bring it about that He should actually exist; which would accordingly be something that I would have to acknowledge regardless of whether or not I may feel that I am in a position to prove that God exists.
When atheists question the existence of God, it would not be helping matters to point out to them that 'God exists because I believe that He exists'; particularly when their disbelief in God's existence is grounded in their perpection that it lacks adequate rational warrant (or is indeed contradicted by the available evidence).
Ben -
not out to flame anyone, but i am truly curious, who created God, does the bible mention any part of it ?
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God knows..