People with no nationality
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It do happen.
Where do they live then? Anyone have any idea? -
They live in no man's land
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Just carry on living..
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it does happen...
people who are without nationality are considered "stateless"
there is a protocol signed by many countries to try and prevent statelessness, however, there are still quite a few.. however, they are mostly permanent residents of a country..
permanent residents have no right of return to their resident country unlike citizens, stateless PRs can apply for travel documents like Certificates of Identity for travel... however, their requirements to enter other countries may be more stringent and some countries may not recognise the travel document and thus will not allow them to enter...
malaysia has a lot of stateless persons as they provided amnesty for indonesian illegal aliens some time ago.. they were given a choice of returning to indonesia, or renouncing their indonesian nationality and be given Malaysian PR.. some chose the latter...
and there are those in singapore and malaysia who missed the registration when the countries went independent.. they are basically considered "stateless"... -
Eh i was wondering,what about those born in airplane?I heard that they are given a special passport with the visa to travel to any country they want..But i guess their parents will ultimately choose a nationality for them..
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Born on airplane? Common sense applies. The child follow his dad's nationality lor.Originally posted by stellazio:Eh i was wondering,what about those born in airplane?I heard that they are given a special passport with the visa to travel to any country they want..But i guess their parents will ultimately choose a nationality for them.. -
Thanks. One more question...Originally posted by the Bear:it does happen...
people who are without nationality are considered "stateless"
there is a protocol signed by many countries to try and prevent statelessness, however, there are still quite a few.. however, they are mostly permanent residents of a country..
permanent residents have no right of return to their resident country unlike citizens, stateless PRs can apply for travel documents like Certificates of Identity for travel... however, their requirements to enter other countries may be more stringent and some countries may not recognise the travel document and thus will not allow them to enter...
malaysia has a lot of stateless persons as they provided amnesty for indonesian illegal aliens some time ago.. they were given a choice of returning to indonesia, or renouncing their indonesian nationality and be given Malaysian PR.. some chose the latter...
and there are those in singapore and malaysia who missed the registration when the countries went independent.. they are basically considered "stateless"...
If someone renounce their own nationality and opted for PR as in the case of Msia Vs Indo. And if the Msia side were to revoke it, what will happen to them then. Where will they go? -
under the protocol, they are not allowed to revoke the PR status unless the person has another country willing to take him in...
although i'm not sure if malaysia is signatory to the protocol tho'..
it would be dependent on the country the person "belongs to" then..Originally posted by TooFree:Thanks. One more question...
If someone renounce their own nationality and opted for PR as in the case of Msia Vs Indo. And if the Msia side were to revoke it, what will happen to them then. Where will they go? -
I dont think anyone in the right mind will renounce their own citizenship with just a PR from another country...Originally posted by TooFree:Thanks. One more question...
If someone renounce their own nationality and opted for PR as in the case of Msia Vs Indo. And if the Msia side were to revoke it, what will happen to them then. Where will they go? 
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IC IC. Can I safely say that only under extreme circumstances like committing treason then this protocol may be revoke. If that is the case, where will he live?Originally posted by the Bear:under the protocol, they are not allowed to revoke the PR status unless the person has another country willing to take him in...
although i'm not sure if malaysia is signatory to the protocol tho'..
it would be dependent on the country the person "belongs to" then.. -
it already happened.. many many people..
i haven't a clue.. maybe in gaol coz no one else in their right mind would take a criminal.. and i think you have to be a citizen in order to commit treasonOriginally posted by Xcert:I dont think anyone in the right mind will renounce their own citizenship with just a PR from another country...
still, the moment the person's PR is revoked, no country would allow him entry at all... and besides, he would not have a travel document anymore... or in some cases i've heard, the country tries dirty tricks like issuing him a one-way travel document hoping some hapless country takes the fella in and the guy is stranded there...Originally posted by TooFree:IC IC. Can I safely say that only under extreme circumstances like committing treason then this protocol may be revoke. If that is the case, where will he live? -
born on airplane quite rare
most airlines dun allow >7 mths pregnant ladies to board -
All flights or international flights?Originally posted by FireIce:most airlines dun allow >7 mths pregnant ladies to board -
i haven't a clue.. maybe in gaol coz no one else in their right mind would take a criminal.. and i think you have to be a citizen in order to commit treason
Ok.
still, the moment the person's PR is revoked, no country would allow him entry at all... and besides, he would not have a travel document anymore... or in some cases i've heard, the country tries dirty tricks like issuing him a one-way travel document hoping some hapless country takes the fella in and the guy is stranded there...
I also read from the website in which a "person with no nationality" also falls under the definition of refugee.
So i guess this could be the very last chance for another try at PR, of course provided he is granted asylum in the first place.
So what happen if ALL fails? No one knows.
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amazon forest, and remote islands.Originally posted by TooFree: It do happen.
Where do they live then? Anyone have any idea?
you got watch LOST, you know what I'm talking abt. -
rber the show The Terminal?