M'sia, the most dangerous country to step into after Iraq?
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Hi ETboy, ask all your friends each to bring along survivor knifesOriginally posted by ETboy:anyway going there with a group of abt 10 frens... so should be quite safe... i hope
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Hopefully u guys can then survive in JB
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many things taken granted here cannot be taken the same in malaysia and most country.
I have been to JB a few times a year. Each time, i use carefully choosen route and avoid certain lonely places. Do not dress like a sloppy singaporean with , burmudas and t shirts with the kinds of bags only can find in singapore. The malaysia JB criminals can spot you 100 metres or the moment you get off the bus at custom. Also no need to speak, open mouth they know you singaporeans.
Do not hang too long around shops outside of city square especially near the custom. if encounter any robbery situation do not resist, run like hell right inside to the police station. I am sure that is the first place singaporeans must know. DO not expect the police to do miracles, they are just as helpless on solving such crimes and prepare some bribe money. its their style. Most criminals usually chinese operate in gangs and gangster style and can be violent and they use extortion tactics. They target chinese only.
The risk there is ten times higher than in singapore. For ladies or teenagers, it can be very dangerous as extortion and kidnap and sex crime there is relatively high even for malaysian. and bring an crime alarm just in case. The best is just think that the north is an open sea, and avoid all together. and fly direct to bangkok or HK.
Getting extorted by gangs there in broad daylight , its even worse than snatch theft. -
is it that bad?
i go to msia almost every single week for biz
mostly to Penang and KL
after christmas I am gg again to KL, this time for leisure.
i think it shld be fine. -
Seems like threadstater has prejudices against Msia. How bout Thailand, Vietname, Indonesia?
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Whahahahahaha....Originally posted by skeujin:aiya some countries u get robbed by the poor...
other countries (ahem) ull get robbed by the rich...
take yr pick....
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"wait a sec... IT'S TRUE!!!!"
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Originally posted by skeujin:aiya some countries u get robbed by the poor...
other countries (ahem) ull get robbed by the rich... -
unless you step into gang infested areas you probably wont get shot..and besides..lapd's doing a much better job now.Originally posted by shadowlunar:I think you have some prejudices with Malaysia. There are places where situation are even worse. Ever been to LA? -
just read the post. scary. i will be extremely careful next time i go in and prepare an exit escape route if i get encouter with robber or extortionists. The politicians are laughing at singaporeans getting rob there. Seems like its getting out of hand in JB.Originally posted by pie: -
I remember one incident where a group of SG drivers rammed down two robbers who shot one of their group.
they literally drove in threes and hit the car and the robber at high speed..a few months after that, no one dared to rob any Singaporeans..
these robbers havent been at the end of a nasty end before..let's see a few of them rammed into by their victims cars then they'll know.. -
wow~
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Malaysia is fairly safe if you know where to hang out.
Trust me, I know. Trust me... -
Used to visit Malaysia very very often.. but stopped going two years ago.
My bro had a nasty experience that shattered his whole family. Cannot tell you much but it involves corruption in their civil service right at the custom office.. hardly even entering Malaysia.
The whole affair is ridiculars, If they can't find any thing they would simply plant something, after one hour of search in a brand new SUV, only to find something below the driver's seat.. only after he was brought to the office and not at the scene. The area under the seat has no compartments and below the seat fully encase in plastic and PVC. One hour search .. cannot find... I mean I could even see below the seat while standind at a distant ! SUVs have higher hts ... you know.
I think my freedom more important... crime has taken a second place. -
Ok I have the right to talk on this issue because I am a Malaysian and my hometown is in KL.
People who say that Malaysia is not dangerous, especially Malaysians who say so, are ill-informed. Just because you have not yet encountered a case, doesn't mean it won't happen. It's a matter of possibilities. The possibilities that you will be a victim of a crime in Malaysia is 100 times that of in Singapore.
If you are a Malaysian, don't you ever read our newspapers (Nanyang Siangpao, The Star, New Straits Times, Sinchew Jit Poh)? How can you deny that Malaysia is fast becoming a very unsafe place? Unless you don't read news.
In Singapore, you or even your daughter can walk on the street at 12 o'clock midnight alone and no one will bother you. You go and do that in Malaysia and chances are good that you will be somebody else's target.
In Singapore, home burglaries mean cases where one thief steal something from a house while the tenants are asleep. In Malaysia, that's not home burglary. Home burglary in Malaysia is where a gang of 4 robbers pry open your back door, use the gas tank in your kitchen to knock down your master bedroom door, slashes you with the knife first and then put the knife on your neck and demand that you hand over all your money/jewellery hidden anywhere in your house. If you have a daughter or a young wife, it gets worse. Even if you install the most solid door to your house, they will still enter your house from the roof (2 or even 3 stories high terrace house). If your neighbour happens to be alert and calls the police for you, most probably the police will arrive after the robbers are gone and all harm have been done.
If you don't believe, try this next time you go into Malaysia. Look at all the houses (most are terrace houses). Look at the windows and doors. What is the main difference with windows and doors of Singapore houses? It's the iron grill. 99.9% of houses in Malaysia have iron grills installed for all windows and doors. And we are not talking about decorative pvssy grills, we are talking about grills that resemble a jail. Hopefully to protect the people inside.
In KL when a minor car accident happens, especially if your car is knocked by another car , don't simply get out of your vehicle immediately. Look at the other car. If you see only males in that car, chances are they purposely created the accident. They do so because of several reasons: 1)best reason for you is that they like your car and just want to hijack you car. 2)worst reason for you is that you are a female and they want to hijack you together with your car.
In KL if you have a factory and is being robbed in the night, it means a gang of 10-20 robbers will arrive with their large lorries and lifting-equipments and start unloading your factory. If you call the police, the police will give all sorts of reasons to delay you ("not my jurisdiction", "call another police station", "are you sure?", "ok we will check when we have time", etc) and then you can bet that the police will arrive about 30 minutes after the robbers are gone. Why? Because they are all together in this. That's your police in Malaysia.
And it is because that the police is so undependable for protecting and saving you, that makes the situation much worse. In Singapore, if you get into trouble, you can summon the police and they will arrive in 5-10 minutes. That is what I call added security in life. In Malaysia, please fend for yourself. No police is going to help you when something happens. Police will only clean up the mess later and show up in droves for the reporters to take photographs the next morning. If the case is quite severe (more than 1 death and very dramatic), maybe a high ranking officer will show up for the purpose of being interviewed by reporters.
Malaysian, please don't feel offended or ashamed when these things are discussed. It's the truth, no point hiding it or trying to make it look less severe. At the end of the day, we have to live there and bear with it. So please face the facts and take precautions to protect ourselves instead of trying to ignore it. Well of course if you stay in remote small towns the situation is much better. But try to avoid big towns like KL, JB, Penang, Ipoh, etc. -
people told me i'd get mugged like hell in rome but look at me now i'm back in s'pore in one piece. take precaution, be a lil more street-smart and you probably won't get farked in the arse so much.
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Basically... it's not on Malaysia also... Indonesia.. Philippines.. Thailand.. ain't not safe either... Wherever there's poor,lazy and incapable to work people.. surely there're cases.. More important is the attitude towards the crime itself... What r u wearing.. how's ur observation to the area.. whether u r too offguard... The way u present yourself matters more... So don't blame anybody if u goin a place, wearing short skirt, ain't really safe (maybe not a shopping mall), with rings,earings around... and in the end... "I was raped at this place.. the people there touch,do this and that to me.. blah blah"... I think this words is to stereotyping and it's just an ego to blame everything on others... This way u can't learn from mistakes...Originally posted by terohoh:I'm not too sure myself cos' I hardly go to M'sia. But from news reports and friends' experiences, it sounds like a lawless war zone there. What's with snatch thieves who kill, robbers who kill, in fact, anyone who they're not happy with (for no apparent reason), they'll kill. We've heard of these crimes in other countries, but it seems like these M'sians' intent is to kill first, do later.
Is it that scary over there? If so, why are there still so many Singaporeans who L.O.V.E goin' to Malaysia as if the things there are free? -
I got two colleagues staying in JB, they and thier wife and sister also kenna rob. Not only Singaporeans being targeted...JB locals also kenna
Four guys playing mahjong outside the house also kenna rob. All four kenna rob -
Actually rob still okay, like i mentioned before, the worse id u get SHOT at the back while having ur BAK KUT TEH by some mad gun man on a bike coming from one of the backlanes to the side of the coffeeshop where ur sipping ur soup happily then BANG...........................BAK KUT TEH soup turn RED
Happen in m'sia b4 rite, shot the wrong fella coz mistaken identity. -
+1Originally posted by de_middle:BAK KUT TEH soup turn RED -
U must have been acting as a RETARDED MORON rite?Originally posted by RETARDED_MORON:Malaysia is fairly safe if you know where to hang out.
Trust me, I know. Trust me... -
From my own personal experience i think Malaysia is really a place where dangers lurk everywhere. Polices there are no doubt useless and corrupted. I still remember we ( my uncles cousins and me) had a fight with a group of 10+ malays in their 20s . The reason? Simple and ridiculous, they say chinese should not be in their so call turf. We fought and and we are lucky to survive for there isn't any weapon used and thank god my cousin and his huge motorbike gangs witnessed this incident and came to our rescue. It was my most terrible experience in malaysia and i cant imagine how would it be like if someone were to point a gun at you and make unreasonable demands. I am sure you guys have read newspapers about rape and robbery cases happening to couples who walked in a dark lonely street. Not only malaysia is a place prone to crimes but it is also a place where spirits roam and a place where black magic exists.......
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It is confirmed. M'sia is indeed a very dangerous country to step into. And these low life losers from M'sia are also creeping into our country to slaughter us. Remember Took Leng How? I hope Bush has his army ready.Originally posted by zhaozhilong:Ok I have the right to talk on this issue because I am a Malaysian and my hometown is in KL.
People who say that Malaysia is not dangerous, especially Malaysians who say so, are ill-informed. Just because you have not yet encountered a case, doesn't mean it won't happen. It's a matter of possibilities. The possibilities that you will be a victim of a crime in Malaysia is 100 times that of in Singapore.
If you are a Malaysian, don't you ever read our newspapers (Nanyang Siangpao, The Star, New Straits Times, Sinchew Jit Poh)? How can you deny that Malaysia is fast becoming a very unsafe place? Unless you don't read news.
In Singapore, you or even your daughter can walk on the street at 12 o'clock midnight alone and no one will bother you. You go and do that in Malaysia and chances are good that you will be somebody else's target.
In Singapore, home burglaries mean cases where one thief steal something from a house while the tenants are asleep. In Malaysia, that's not home burglary. Home burglary in Malaysia is where a gang of 4 robbers pry open your back door, use the gas tank in your kitchen to knock down your master bedroom door, slashes you with the knife first and then put the knife on your neck and demand that you hand over all your money/jewellery hidden anywhere in your house. If you have a daughter or a young wife, it gets worse. Even if you install the most solid door to your house, they will still enter your house from the roof (2 or even 3 stories high terrace house). If your neighbour happens to be alert and calls the police for you, most probably the police will arrive after the robbers are gone and all harm have been done.
If you don't believe, try this next time you go into Malaysia. Look at all the houses (most are terrace houses). Look at the windows and doors. What is the main difference with windows and doors of Singapore houses? It's the iron grill. 99.9% of houses in Malaysia have iron grills installed for all windows and doors. And we are not talking about decorative pvssy grills, we are talking about grills that resemble a jail. Hopefully to protect the people inside.
In KL when a minor car accident happens, especially if your car is knocked by another car , don't simply get out of your vehicle immediately. Look at the other car. If you see only males in that car, chances are they purposely created the accident. They do so because of several reasons: 1)best reason for you is that they like your car and just want to hijack you car. 2)worst reason for you is that you are a female and they want to hijack you together with your car.
In KL if you have a factory and is being robbed in the night, it means a gang of 10-20 robbers will arrive with their large lorries and lifting-equipments and start unloading your factory. If you call the police, the police will give all sorts of reasons to delay you ("not my jurisdiction", "call another police station", "are you sure?", "ok we will check when we have time", etc) and then you can bet that the police will arrive about 30 minutes after the robbers are gone. Why? Because they are all together in this. That's your police in Malaysia.
And it is because that the police is so undependable for protecting and saving you, that makes the situation much worse. In Singapore, if you get into trouble, you can summon the police and they will arrive in 5-10 minutes. That is what I call added security in life. In Malaysia, please fend for yourself. No police is going to help you when something happens. Police will only clean up the mess later and show up in droves for the reporters to take photographs the next morning. If the case is quite severe (more than 1 death and very dramatic), maybe a high ranking officer will show up for the purpose of being interviewed by reporters.
Malaysian, please don't feel offended or ashamed when these things are discussed. It's the truth, no point hiding it or trying to make it look less severe. At the end of the day, we have to live there and bear with it. So please face the facts and take precautions to protect ourselves instead of trying to ignore it. Well of course if you stay in remote small towns the situation is much better. But try to avoid big towns like KL, JB, Penang, Ipoh, etc. -
No need to look out on the streets.. their politicians are all punks altogether.. throwing out corruption ?.. not in a million years.. even their robbers can rob their own army camps.. what a joke..
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Let me share my experience bah.
If you all encounter anything , just give money.
my whole family almost got robbed while driving in m'sia .
Once they see car plate with "SD******" they will definitely target it.
A few times liao , police will setup road block to extort more from us.
How to blame? Policeman all underpaid , hence the high tendency for corruption.
Even when we go in with MPV , we have at least 5 guys .
If you want to go , dress simple and go there , driving Merc/Porsche/Bently/BMW/Lexus/Audi there is crazy