Northstar ACTIVATED!!!!
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boring lah.. sun morning.. ppl wake up see news/go online forum, the exercise finish already. haha.
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i dunno, maybe activate reserve buses? are there any reserve buses in available depots?Originally posted by wuming78:hm.. bridging services.. isn't this ex supposed to be as real as possible? in times of a REAL attack, would SBS be able to come out with such services immediately to "minimise inconveniences to commuters"???
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I don't mean to belittle this exercise.Originally posted by sbst275:If whoever thinks it is a big show, wait till a real explosion happens and you say it is a big show
but knowing how such exercises are prepared, its prepared with a expected timeframe of when the "exercise" will happen.
I mean, its right to tell the public when an exercise will happen so they will not be alarmed.
But i don't think the emergency services should have advanced notice like, "its going to happen sometime tomorrow", or "get ready all equipment, it's happening in next 24 hours"
it should be as ad-hoc as possible. They shouldn't have stand by at the train stations but rather should be doing what they have been doing on a lazy sunday like today. -
people who want to see video clip of news its here.....
http://info.channelnewsasia.com/rovingdv/northstarvids/Northstarpart1.mp4 -
aiyaa in real terrorist bombings, u think how will buses maneouver to bridge stations? wat a joke
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HOT news...just out 10:50am....
PM Lee, DPM Wong visit emergency drill site
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Singapore held a surprise security drill on Sunday, staging mock bombings and a simulated chemical attack to test readiness for a terror strike on the country.
Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong and Deputy Prime Minister Wong Kan Seng visited the Dhoby Ghaut MRT station, one of the sites of the emergency exercise.
Mr Wong, who is also the Home Affairs Minister, told reporters that he did not rule out the possibility of holding similar exercises during peak hours.
PM Lee said that Sunday's drill was an important large-scale exercise and that it was designed not just to test the preparedness of emergency crews but also how the public should react if there is a terrorist attack in Singapore.
Turning to the London blasts last July, Mr Lee said the British had practised how to deal with blasts at its underground stations and were ready when they happened and responded efficiently.
Singaporeans should also be equally prepared, he said.
Mr Lee said: "Because in an incident like this, it's not only for the first responders but also the public - must take instruction, remain calm, go about their business, and if there are casualties, to deal with them and next of kin.
"We hope to educate the public on what to do if such an event takes place. We will do our best to prevent it but if it should happen, this is how we react and how we go about and put things back to normal." - CNA/ir
The public can turn to the SCDF website for more details on Sunday's exercise.
Were you part of the exercise? Tell us your story. Send us pictures via Exercise Northstar V. - CNA/ir
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Because a big show is what it really is!Originally posted by sbst275:If whoever thinks it is a big show, wait till a real explosion happens and you say it is a big show
It is all perfectly choreographed and planned beforehand -> PM Lee and DPM Wong Kan Seng will be visiting the 'scene of explosion' at Dhoby Ghaut, DPM Jayakumar will be visiting Toa Payoh. Later in the afternoon, HealthMinister Khaw Boon Wan will be visiting the 'casualties' in SGH.
Anyway the 'casualties' will all be taken to SGH A&E, as well as 2 polyclinics. All the staff there have been primed beforehand.. there is nothing spontaneous about the whole thing at all.
As someone mentioned earlier, it is more to boost public confidence than anything else. -
Time by time analysis:
Pre-Exercise Day:
Since 27 Dec 05, members of the public have been pre-warned of the upcoming exercise to be held in the first 2 weeks of Jan 06 by means of print and broadcast local media reporting as well as exercise posters (in the 4 official languages) being placed at all train stations and bus interchanges.
On Exercise Day:
On the day of the exercise (8th Jan 06),
Nation-wide:
Announcements or alerts are continuously made by the local media in 4 official languages (where applicable) as follows:
> (6.15 – 6.24)am : MediaCorp TV (crawler message) and Radio will
inform the public that Ex NorthStar V will be conducted this morning across the public train network.
> (6.25 – 9.29)am : MediaCorp TV (teletext), Radio & website and
TV Mobile (in public buses) as well as SCDF website will inform the public of the:
- Duration and locations of the exercise;
- road and stations closure;
- temporary disruption to train services; and
- availability of shuttle bus services.
> (9.30 – 10.30)am : MediaCorp TV (crawler message & teletext), Radio & website and TV Mobile (in public buses) as well as SCDF website will inform the public of the termination of the exercise and the resumption of the train services.
Localized:
Localized announcements or alerts have also been arranged with Land Transport Authority (LTA), SBS Transit, SMRT Corporation and Ministry of Health (MOH) as follows:
> (6.15 – 9.30)am : ‘Exercise-In-Progress’ signboards are prominently displayed at:
- all entrances of the 13 train stations that are
affected by service disruption;
- at the Toa Payoh Bus Interchange: and
- at all participating hospitals and polyclinics.
> (6.15 – 9.29)am : EMAS signboards will alert motorists traveling
along specific highways to avoid particular exercise road/s.
> By 6.25am : Commuters will be alerted to the commencement of the exercise via the in-train and in-station announcements (in 4 official languages) as well as text messages appearing in the stationsÂ’ visual passenger information systems.
> By 9.30am : Commuters will be alerted to the termination of the exercise via the in-train and in-station announcements (in 4 official languages) as well as text messages appearing in the stationsÂ’ visual passenger information systems. -
Minus the fact the leaders all knew abt the execise and exact timing and location, we as just normal citizens should just do our part and when in any real bombings, we know how to deal with itOriginally posted by cornyfish2000:Because a big show is what it really is!
It is all perfectly choreographed and planned beforehand -> PM Lee and DPM Wong Kan Seng will be visiting the 'scene of explosion' at Dhoby Ghaut, DPM Jayakumar will be visiting Toa Payoh. Later in the afternoon, HealthMinister Khaw Boon Wan will be visiting the 'casualties' in SGH.
Anyway the 'casualties' will all be taken to SGH A&E, as well as 2 polyclinics. All the staff there have been primed beforehand.. there is nothing spontaneous about the whole thing at all.
As someone mentioned earlier, it is more to boost public confidence than anything else. -
new mp4 video up from CNA...
http://info.channelnewsasia.com/rovingdv/northstarvids/Northstarpkg.mp4
goto http://www.channelnewsasia.com/northstar/ if you have any video clips or are there during the exercise and tell you story.
May be able to win you a prize!
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No lah...its something like in your school, there is the fire-drill but no real fire right?Originally posted by Ponders:I don't mean to belittle this exercise.
but knowing how such exercises are prepared, its prepared with a expected timeframe of when the "exercise" will happen.
I mean, its right to tell the public when an exercise will happen so they will not be alarmed.
But i don't think the emergency services should have advanced notice like, "its going to happen sometime tomorrow", or "get ready all equipment, it's happening in next 24 hours"
it should be as ad-hoc as possible. They shouldn't have stand by at the train stations but rather should be doing what they have been doing on a lazy sunday like today.
And in military exercise, no real enemy then not realistic mah?
The GREAT idea is to TIE down those important things, as in what should be done in emergencies like this. They already say liao in the news, they dont want unpreparedness like london bomb blast.
They want to tie down SOP procedures and try out the procedures to see what is lacking or what can be improved, so that if something REALLY happens, they know what to do lah...
So for this type of exercise, realism is secondary BUT need to be considered.
But the public should also take this chance to know whats going on so as to deal with it (as in knowing what are the steps) should such things happend. -
Not quite, in real bombings, public transport may be needed to top up as temporary ambulances and bring people to safe locations.Originally posted by SBS9828X:aiyaa in real terrorist bombings, u think how will buses maneouver to bridge stations? wat a joke
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At least in some school, when they tell you there is a firedrill, it will be a suddent announcement like "fire now!"Originally posted by nightzip:No lah...its something like in your school, there is the fire-drill but no real fire right?
And in military exercise, no real enemy then not realistic mah?
The GREAT idea is to TIE down those important things, as in what should be done in emergencies like this. They already say liao in the news, they dont want unpreparedness like london bomb blast.
They want to tie down SOP procedures and try out the procedures to see what is lacking or what can be improved, so that if something REALLY happens, they know what to do lah...
So for this type of exercise, realism is secondary BUT need to be considered. But the public should also take this chance to know whats going on so as to deal with it (as in knowing what are the steps) should such things happend.
It's not like, "we are going to have a fire drill in 5 mins, so fall in nicely in neat rows in 5 mins".
Because for northstar, the latter seems to be the case. -
heheh...but nearly all schools will inform the students or teachers, like 1-2 weeks before...saying that we will be having a fire drill sometime next week...etc etc... please go and see the fire drill evacuation plan so can be fast etc etc?Originally posted by Ponders:At least in some school, when they tell you there is a firedrill, it will be a suddent announcement like "fire now!"
It's not like, "we are going to have a fire drill in 5 mins, so fall in nicely in neat rows in 5 mins".
Because for northstar, the latter seems to be the case.
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exactly.Originally posted by nightzip:Not quite, in real bombings, public transport may be needed to top up as temporary ambulances and bring people to safe locations. -
As far as my ex-school is concerned. Only the teachers get advanced warning. Which brings out a weird situation.Originally posted by nightzip:heheh...but nearly all schools will inform the students or teachers, like 1-2 weeks before...saying that we will be having a fire drill sometime next week...etc etc... please go and see the fire drill evacuation plan so can be fast etc etc?
When there was no annoucement to the teachers, and the fire alarm sounded. Instead of preparing us to get out. They would just continue the lesson. Of course most of the time it's student pranks. But then... what if its not?