Is It Ethical To Punish With The Death Penalty?
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Something should be done to look at the way police conduct investigations. The courts should take all confessions with a pinch of salt as they might have been extracted after hours of brutal torture.
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So I'd suggest the death penalty for the murderer, and also a death penalty for the parents. Just kidding..
So if for example for a rapist there are ppl who suggest castration instead of death. What is your view? I think for a male rapist, being castrated is more humiliating than given a death sentence
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Yes, it is in man's Law that Death Penalty is deemed justice, but then again, killing is wrong. The perception of right, wrong & acceptable is then Man's idealism, which is in turn as imperfect as we all are.Originally posted by kalangkabo:the Law decides what is "ethical" based on man's (the community's) perception of what is right and acceptable behaviour.
how do man decide what is right and acceptable?
Hence, I believe man could not be judged by man. -
Hence, I believe man could not be judged by man.
So who can then judge man? Dun tell me it is that G*d some specific division of ppl are always preaching about? -
Good question. It's a standard procedure for these criminals to employ a lawyer to defend them. And for these lawyers, they've no choice since it's their job (no matter how much we hate them for defending the criminals). As for the criminals, it's usually a case of being the almighty and not being afraid of death when committing the crime, but turning into worthless cowards when they're caught. Anyway, most of the times these criminals will be found guilty, as the evidences will usually be too overwhelming. It's not really like what we see in the movies I think, that if you're super rich, you'll get away scot-free. The only exception being O.J Simpson's case I think.Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:In line with the government's view. Their laws are meant to deter. But I always wonder, if it is meant to deter, why do lawyers always plead for leniency for their clients? If he's not afraid when he commits the crime, why should he be afraid now? -
Originally posted by sohguanh:
Exactly! I think that would be the best punishment but in these times, this kinda punishment will be labelled as rubbish and uncivilised. And those human rights activists or environmentalists or shindler's lists
[b] So I'd suggest the death penalty for the murderer, and also a death penalty for the parents. Just kidding..
So if for example for a rapist there are ppl who suggest castration instead of death. What is your view? I think for a male rapist, being castrated is more humiliating than given a death sentence [/b] , will be out in full force to protest...again. You can be sure by then the Australians will be the 1st to call us barbarians...or worse. When I was younger, I thought the best punishment for rapists was for them to be sodomised by big, strong and willing gays. Then they'll know how their victims felt. -
I think in corrupted countries it's the same.Originally posted by terohoh:Good question. It's a standard procedure for these criminals to employ a lawyer to defend them. And for these lawyers, they've no choice since it's their job (no matter how much we hate them for defending the criminals). As for the criminals, it's usually a case of being the almighty and not being afraid of death when committing the crime, but turning into worthless cowards when they're caught. Anyway, most of the times these criminals will be found guilty, as the evidences will usually be too overwhelming. It's not really like what we see in the movies I think, that if you're super rich, you'll get away scot-free. The only exception being O.J Simpson's case I think. -
Not all australians. My aussie friends said we help to dispose of their problem permanently rather than feed them and clothe them in prisons . Therefore Singapore NUMBA 1Originally posted by terohoh:Exactly! I think that would be the best punishment but in these times, this kinda punishment will be labelled as rubbish and uncivilised. And those human rights activists or environmentalists or shindler's lists , will be out in full force to protest...again. You can be sure by then the Australians will be the 1st to call us barbarians...or worse. When I was younger, I thought the best punishment for rapists was for them to be sodomised by big, strong and willing gays. Then they'll know how their victims felt. -
I thought the best punishment for rapists was for them to be sodomised by big, strong and willing gays. Mr. Green Then they'll know how their victims felt.
Well unofficially that is happening I believe. In spore prisons rumors always have it when a rapist is locked up, those criminals in the prison will look down on that person. They believe rape is the worst of all mankind crime to be convicted. Their revenge will be like you describe nite after nite. I believe prison warden close one eye too.
Last time there is one Bedok rapist and later read news he hang himself inside prison. I guess the nite after nite of abuse had scarred him so much to resort to suicide. I believe finally the rapist experience real fear as his victims do. So no worry your concerns are being implemented in an unofficial way IMHO -
Originally posted by sohguanh:
haha...isit? OMG this is new
[b]I thought the best punishment for rapists was for them to be sodomised by big, strong and willing gays. Mr. Green Then they'll know how their victims felt.
Well unofficially that is happening I believe. In spore prisons rumors always have it when a rapist is locked up, those criminals in the prison will look down on that person. They believe rape is the worst of all mankind crime to be convicted. Their revenge will be like you describe nite after nite. I believe prison warden close one eye too.
Last time there is one Bedok rapist and later read news he hang himself inside prison. I guess the nite after nite of abuse had scarred him so much to resort to suicide. I believe finally the rapist experience real fear as his victims do. So no worry your concerns are being implemented in an unofficial way IMHO [/b] -
haha...isit? OMG this is new
We can have urban legends so what is stopping prison legends? Btw rumors is passed to me from my father era until now. A heart to heart talk to retired prison wardens may help to verify this prison legend? -
Seriously? I'm glad there're some rational Australians after all. Anyway, from what i've heard, Vietnamese immigrants are mostly (not all) a problematic lot, especially the youngsters. They've no respect for the country they're in, and they're extremely violent. So i don't see the point of Australians(not all, I understand) feeling mad about Singapore executing Nguyen.Originally posted by fymk:Not all australians. My aussie friends said we help to dispose of their problem permanently rather than feed them and clothe them in prisons . Therefore Singapore NUMBA 1 -
if u kill a murderer, do u rape a rapist?
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yes. rape him with a cane.Originally posted by FireIce:if u kill a murderer, do u rape a rapist? -
in the Bible, God is the initiator of death penalty for murder crimes.
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IF, mankind is IMPERFECT, how can man then judge another? Would not it be an IMPERFECT JUDGEMENT?Originally posted by ShutterBug:Yes, it is in man's Law that Death Penalty is deemed justice, but then again, killing is wrong. The perception of right, wrong & acceptable is then Man's idealism, which is in turn as imperfect as we all are.
Hence, I believe man could not be judged by man.
The Death Penalty in this istance, is the collective IDEALS of a society.
LAW, is like a gun; you can choose to use it to hunt for survival, defence, or murder.
Here's some equations:
> Hunt = kill animal to eat for survival (self-preserving)
> Defence = protect ourselves (self-preserving)
> Murder/Kill = Greed/Anger, self-vindication/revenge (self-fulfilment)
All of the above, are self-centered. -
While the issue is being debated, does anyone know why Sg still use hanging, instead of other so-called 'less barbaric' methods like electric chair or lethal injection?
There are foreigners who wrote to say that while they do not object to the death penalty if that's what Sg laws dictated, they oppose the barbaric hanging method. -
there is no so-called 'less barbaric' methods...electric chair is also very barbaric and using lethal injection is just like how human put animal to sleep, which is treating human as animal...Originally posted by Wanda:While the issue is being debated, does anyone know why Sg still use hanging, instead of other so-called 'less barbaric' methods like electric chair or lethal injection?
There are foreigners who wrote to say that while they do not object to the death penalty if that's what Sg laws dictated, they oppose the barbaric hanging method. -
The Electric Chair is NOT less barbaric. It's even more traumatic. Have you ever seen a person electrocuted on an electric chair??? It's HORRID! I saw it and I Must say that I could not eat for the next 24 hours!!Originally posted by Wanda:While the issue is being debated, does anyone know why Sg still use hanging, instead of other so-called 'less barbaric' methods like electric chair or lethal injection?
There are foreigners who wrote to say that while they do not object to the death penalty if that's what Sg laws dictated, they oppose the barbaric hanging method.
But I agree that Lethal Injection is a more humane method, and as for treating humans like animals to be put down - what's the diff if Death Penalty still prevails? -
i don't think the electric chair and lethal injection is any less "barbaric" than hanging...Originally posted by Wanda:While the issue is being debated, does anyone know why Sg still use hanging, instead of other so-called 'less barbaric' methods like electric chair or lethal injection?
There are foreigners who wrote to say that while they do not object to the death penalty if that's what Sg laws dictated, they oppose the barbaric hanging method.
i think there were cases of criminals dying a slow and agonising death using the above methods (don't know real or not...), or even surviving the execution.
(in which case, i think they are allowed to go free)
so, the fastest and surest way to execute a criminal would be "OFF WITH HIS HEAD"??? that one lagi barbaric
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Burning at the stake is even worse. Death from decapitation is swift and painless.Originally posted by kalangkabo:i don't think the electric chair and lethal injection is any less "barbaric" than hanging...
i think there were cases of criminals dying a slow and agonising death using the above methods (don't know real or not...), or even surviving the execution.
(in which case, i think they are allowed to go free)
so, the fastest and surest way to execute a criminal would be "OFF WITH HIS HEAD"??? that one lagi barbaric -
So in your opinion, would Took Leng How have got a fairer trial if the Huang Na case had taken place in Melbourne?Originally posted by fymk:Not all australians. My aussie friends said we help to dispose of their problem permanently rather than feed them and clothe them in prisons . Therefore Singapore NUMBA 1 -
order the seeds from Mother Gecko Botanical, it's an e-shop run by my friendOriginally posted by gUms:to me de only mistake in singapore law is not letting ppl smoke weed , weed comes nature
other country even let ppl grow their own ganja plants ...
COME ON LEGALIZE WEED ....
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got capital punishment anot not my business. they commit crimes, chop head, hands, legs or genitals also not my prob. y care so much? it's not as if u'll face it