How to grow money?
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u sound like u can get commission recommending ppl, or u're the agents doing the work.Originally posted by hseochin:I've just sent you a PM which gives an overview of how i do it.
out with it.
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Honesty, integrity etc. is of utmost importance i'll say in such business.
The funds have to go thru various stages of 'processing' before the final
required expected returns can reach one's hands again. Along the way any weak links in the system can be exploited (if handled by dishonest or simply unreliable parties !) resulting such that eventhough the profits are actually produced the funds are 'pinched' by such people before having the chance to reach the intended party !!
But fortunately there exist ways to minimise if not even practically eliminate such risks of losses. That's why i'm VERY particular of the reliability of ALL the intermediary parties i regularly deal with to do such business so that i won't ever have to 'eat in' to my own reserves to honour any additional 100 % guarantees which i may offer in addition to the officially offered 100 % guarantees from my 'suppliers' in the event of non-performance, which has fortunately NEVER happened so far.
Due to this being a very heavily trust-based sort of business, i'm also very selective of who i offer my services to. Both parties must be comfortable with each other before going any further. As a result, only a select few would likely be entertained. Due to the relatively high amounts of profit returns, i don't depend on volume of customers to earn my living from such business. Only a few good, loyal investors would suffice to keep me busy especially when i also have my own account to attend to.Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:While this isn't impossible, the people behind this has got to be super honest for it to work. Most can't resist temptations and run off with the money. -
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You're factually incorrect in both areas.
I do NOT get any commissions & i'm in fact a customer myself, NOT agents of any sort.
I do it like my own business, using the facilities i happen to have access to.
Just offering to help out any interested party, of course earning some income
from myself in the process as well ! What else to expect, offer free charity investment service ?!??!Originally posted by ^tamago^:u sound like u can get commission recommending ppl, or u're the agents doing the work.
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haha. i never say you are wat. just say u sound like.... there are no facts to talk about if u dun open up right? if like tat so stuck up, very hard to survive in business line leh....Originally posted by hseochin:You're factually incorrect in both areas.
I do NOT get any commissions & i'm in fact a customer myself, NOT agents of any sort.
I do it like my own business, using the facilities i happen to have access to.
Just offering to help out any interested party, of course earning some income
from myself in the process as well ! What else to expect, offer free charity investment service ?!??!
it's better we noe at least a rough idea of wat u're doing, or else we wun noe if wat u do might cause anything bad to other parties in this forum considering the high risk associated with high returns and the non-disclosure nature of ur business.... when there are such offers on net postings, i always make sure they come clean as to what they do...
not say u but there are just too many scams around on the net...
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Did you see my PM reply to you?
Anyway what's the vehicle you're talking about? MLM? Stocks and shares?
Btw I can get 150% ROI in one single night. No problem what. But no guarantee. And not every night can like that.
I use derivatives trading. How about you? -
I understand your reservations simply because when i myself initially knew of such business opportunities, i (naturally) found myself asking almost all manner of questions to almost anybody around BUT instead not getting as much info as i wished !!
As for 'stuck-up' that's not my problem in this case, because that quite precisely also was the same sort of impressions i received from those Swiss people when i queried them as i myself is seriously interested in injecting ~ US$ 20000 into this business. My impressions is that they are so accustomed with dealing with amounts much larger than that so they really don't care if you don't invest with them since they already have least few others who are the big investors to keep them busy !!
I suppose they know that with so few other players around as good & reliable as them that one would actually lose out by NOT investing with them that's why they can appear with 'stuck-up' impressions ?!?
These Swiss people may seem 'stuck-up' to Asians but contrary to what you wrote, they're surviving extremely well in the business ! The few who know them & have been profitting reliably from their services of course would tend to keep this goldmine to themselves. Or offer it as 'their own' investment service to some others they're comfortable doing business with.
I'll put it it boils down to simply whether one's willing to risk trusting them least for once & trying them out & let the results show. That's how i started off in such business & since then the rest is history & i've really have NO regrets overall to date.
Those interested people who PM me, i'll feedback to them via PM due to the nature of such subject matter.
I fully agree there's too many scams online unfortunately.
Trouble is this industry is like a goldmine surrounded by landmines.
The landmines for the new comers & the goldmine for the experienced &
competent ones.
The majority (i.e. new comers) simply will fail.
I've been thru that stage initially but have since found my way to the goldmine.
I don't give up OR give in. That helped.
Now i've another new ambition as a result.
To accumulate enough reserves over the next 10 years in this business to either start-up or acquire a coach operator business between SGP & MY offering what no operator currently offers i.e. a fleet of all original bodied integrally-constructed Mercedes-Benz coaches of O 404 & above class with only top-end V8 engines BUT charging only fares not too different from those with lousier vehicles !!
My coach business would thus be to serve the coach travelling community @ 'normal' profits while the above 'stuck-up' type of business would be used to fund whatever 'excesses' required to buy such class of vehicles.Originally posted by ^tamago^:haha. i never say you are wat. just say u sound like.... there are no facts to talk about if u dun open up right? if like tat so stuck up, very hard to survive in business line leh....
it's better we noe at least a rough idea of wat u're doing, or else we wun noe if wat u do might cause anything bad to other parties in this forum considering the high risk associated with high returns and the non-disclosure nature of ur business.... when there are such offers on net postings, i always make sure they come clean as to what they do...
not say u but there are just too many scams around on the net... -
yeah, now can understand your position but...Originally posted by hseochin:As for 'stuck-up' that's not my problem in this case, because that quite precisely also was the same sort of impressions i received from those Swiss people when i queried them as i myself is seriously interested in injecting ~ US$ 20000 into this business.
US$20,000...
i can feel a chill down my back sia... *sweats* -
I agree fantastic but non-guaranteed returns in derivatives can be achieved over very short time. I believe those Swiss brokers also (selectively though) do use such means to generate returns from some of the invested funds.
For me, as i'm still 'getting the feel' of FOREX trading via an FXCM account, for the moment almost 100 % of my investment funds would instead go into the '150 % ROI in 6 months' business where least i know from personal experiences there's demonstrated performance of the guaranteed profit returns i.e. i leave the actual investment part for the time being to the professionals & they manage the account & produce me their stated returns so that i & all those who invested under me get our expected required returns.
In the future however i intend to split half my investment funds between my self managed FOREX trading & the existing 'auto managed' investment services. So that i can compare my performance with their performance, as another way to gauge the performance of those professionals.Originally posted by Li Ka Shing:Did you see my PM reply to you?
Anyway what's the vehicle you're talking about? MLM? Stocks and shares?
Btw I can get 150% ROI in one single night. No problem what. But no guarantee. And not every night can like that.
I use derivatives trading. How about you? -
US$ 20000 can be a 'big' or 'small' sum, depending on the sort of returns one normally is accustomed to getting. Say you've just gotten an interest profit of US$ 30000 from a US$ 60000 deposit (150 % ROI) then even with US$ 20000 'another round' it's still quite ok.
Of course for beginners the common advise is to start with much smaller amounts.
Subsequently work as much as possible on only the profits while getting 100 %
back the initial invested amount ASAP.Originally posted by ^tamago^:yeah, now can understand your position but...
US$20,000...
i can feel a chill down my back sia... *sweats* -
whoa, we're different frequency sia....
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Which frequency? FM or not?
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Originally posted by Li Ka Shing:Which frequency? FM or not?
u so late still up. working on the US stock market ah? -
Care to say what are the ways to minimize the risks of losses?Originally posted by hseochin:Honesty, integrity etc. is of utmost importance i'll say in such business.
The funds have to go thru various stages of 'processing' before the final
required expected returns can reach one's hands again. Along the way any weak links in the system can be exploited (if handled by dishonest or simply unreliable parties !) resulting such that eventhough the profits are actually produced the funds are 'pinched' by such people before having the chance to reach the intended party !!
But fortunately there exist ways to minimise if not even practically eliminate such risks of losses. That's why i'm VERY particular of the reliability of ALL the intermediary parties i regularly deal with to do such business so that i won't ever have to 'eat in' to my own reserves to honour any additional 100 % guarantees which i may offer in addition to the officially offered 100 % guarantees from my 'suppliers' in the event of non-performance, which has fortunately NEVER happened so far.
Due to this being a very heavily trust-based sort of business, i'm also very selective of who i offer my services to. Both parties must be comfortable with each other before going any further. As a result, only a select few would likely be entertained. Due to the relatively high amounts of profit returns, i don't depend on volume of customers to earn my living from such business. Only a few good, loyal investors would suffice to keep me busy especially when i also have my own account to attend to.
I'm getting curious.
And how does this thing work? -
A way to minimise if not practically eliminate risk of losses i'll
say is to use bank wire transfer. But such process tends to require
vigourous verifications @ both ends which can take more time,
troublesome even expensive to process the value transfer.
But for large amounts i believe that's the best & safest method.
Basically this 'thing' works by entering one's investment funds
into their system for 'processing' to produce the stated guaranteed
returns within the specified time frame. Sometimes the payday may
even be earlier if they experience better than expected performance
internally ! However such earlier withdrawals may incur some surcharge
fee.Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:Care to say what are the ways to minimize the risks of losses?
I'm getting curious.
And how does this thing work? -
it's not ur problem! what a kaypoh guy!Originally posted by ^tamago^:u so late still up. working on the US stock market ah? -
haha. cannot ask? he says he's working on deriatives wat...Originally posted by vindicated:it's not ur problem! what a kaypoh guy! -
vindicated, you mass flaming is it?
