Who is the creator of the universe?
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LOLOriginally posted by casino_king:People do not "believe" in no creator. People only say that without evidence, one assumes that there is no creator. The minute credible evidence appear, the non believers will call you stupid if you don't.
Your argument is flawed.
The phrase "Without evidence" should not stand and "assumes" should not stand.
Like I said, there are people who believed the world was there all along, with no creators moulding it out of nowhere.
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OK it is conceivable that there are people who for no reason states that there is no creator.Originally posted by Nelstar:LOL
Your argument is flawed.
The phrase "Without evidence" should not stand and "assumes" should not stand.
Like I said, there are people who believed the world was there all along, with no creators moulding it out of nowhere.
People of science on the other hand will tell you that they do not accept that there is a creator without the requsite evidence. -
Science is another subject of faith.Originally posted by casino_king:OK it is conceivable that there are people who for no reason states that there is no creator.
People of science on the other hand will tell you that they do not accept that there is a creator without the requsite evidence.
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Originally posted by Nelstar:Science is another subject of faith.
There are many laws and theories but little facts. end of discussion. Please find out more about science before you write another word on it. 
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Whatever is established under perfect truth is placed under mathematics.Originally posted by casino_king: end of discussion. Please find out more about science before you write another word on it.
Whatever that can be challenged, proven wrong will generally be under science. Even things like how hot sun the sun is, how big earth is, is purely estimation.
90% correct != correct. If 90% correct = correct, then there wouldn't be scientists today. There are still scientists contesting that 100 degrees celsius is not boiling point for pure water. -
Religions are metaphysical phenomena..and there are no Mathematics nor Scietnists today who can prove it..but the UNIVERSE is out there U can seeOriginally posted by Nelstar:Whatever is established under perfect truth is placed under mathematics.
Whatever that can be challenged, proven wrong will generally be under science. Even things like how hot sun the sun is, how big earth is, is purely estimation.
90% correct != correct. If 90% correct = correct, then there wouldn't be scientists today. There are still scientists contesting that 100 degrees celsius is not boiling point for pure water.
and it's really real!
goto read my recent article http://www.sgwiki.com/wiki/Realities
quote>>The Science of Metaphysics?
With Gold its task to determine the value is quite straightforward, but with Religions it is not that simple.All religions are metaphysical phenomena
Some clever people endeavour to label this field of studies as meta-physical meaning that which is beyond the standard objective observation methods as in determining the genuineness or reality of certain things. Religions however, are not technological realities nor scientific ones. Its is spiritual and got to do with one's belief. It has no possible scientific proofs available to determine whether a person is true or although it may well be as real as the facts of ABC with someone who believes
However, it need be said that there are certain methods used to determine the veracity of certain facts in religious beliefs. For instance, both Archaeology and History are common disciplines where certain facts in the events can be determined as accepted or just by some sects or small group of believers. We know that dinosaurs used to roam the earth and we have the proofs of the bones to show! WE also know Julius Cesar was the not first empire builder** though he was the conqueror of the ancient world and had established the ancient Roman Empire. Some facts are likely, some unlikely and perhaps falsified, and no amount of scientific proofs can certify it as real as a historical event that had happened, even though they are accepted as universal facts. The simple fact is the resurrection of Jesus or the re-carnation of Buddha or a certain so and so who came back to tell all his grand children that Hell is a very hot place!...and
All these so called simple facts are simply accepted as beliefs by people who believes and therefore, very hard to verify!
It is just asking the pawnshop person to determine the value of an ancient piece of artifact even though it is pure gold or some Buddha tooth found by someone in old Ceylon monastic places![[User:Terry How|: Terri talk 01:12, October 8,2005 (UTC)]] 09:41, 22 May 2006 (SGT)
there were others like Alexander the Great who built the great Grecian Empire
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wonder, do anyone here read a bible ??
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Yes I do quite often..Originally posted by jufe:wonder, do anyone here read a bible ??
plus the Da Vinci code by Dan Brown
and many more books
My favorite author is Robert Ludlum
My all time favorite is the Cloister and the Hearth by Charles Reade and Heidi by Johanna Spyri
besides using helps like Greek lexicons, Hebrew LXX etc..etc...
Does good Buddhist people here read the Sanskrit and uses dictionaries
Lexicons etc?
Or U guys just read others' hearsays and commentaries?
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Sorry huh.. just read the first 2 pages and the last page...
On the analogy of saying God lies outside the realm of logic, to me it is basically the same as saying tat the idea put forward by gr2012 is illogical. Any argument put forward to support "something" not logical is an illogical answer. Since u do not require a logical answer to the creation of the universe, then u can really put anything u like in.
And BTW, where and why do u say tat god is illogical ?Science is another subject of faith.
If science is nothing but simply faith, then u should be afraid of sitting in a car or using computer and basically living in high rise HDB because the theories for building these things is not tested, not proven and may very well be wrong. Thankfully the devices r based on sound theories tat were tested, never found to be false and can be reproduce in other areas and as such science can produce the many equipment we see today. If they r not based on "facts" then why do these things works ?
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Originally posted by norey:
And what Buddhists got to do with it? Its like asking, do Christians read about from books like Jin Yong?
Yes I do quite often..
plus the Da Vinci code by Dan Brown
and many more books
My favorite author is Robert Ludlum
My all time favorite is the Cloister and the Hearth by Charles Reade and Heidi by Johanna Spyri
besides using helps like Greek lexicons, Hebrew LXX etc..etc...
Does good Buddhist people here read the Sanskrit and uses dictionaries
Lexicons etc?
Or U guys just read others' hearsays and commentaries?
Perhaps the [b]wikipedia for info?[/b] -
Originally posted by laurence82:And what Buddhists got to do with it? Its like asking, do Christians read about from books like Jin Yong?
Of course I agreed Buddhist have nothing to do with the Bible or the books here mentioned, just ehy have nothing to do with theories and philosophies and the like because WHY?
they do sriptures jsut as the medival monks chant their latin mass
they saw the material worldviews of many Sporeans and say 'they are blind' because they don't know anything...
and what WHY? it's like asking Buddhists to read about
"the enlightenment by Martin Lurther''??
Men some people just don't the read the context of the above Person who
wrote:
ParDon me, R u far sighted or near ?Originally posted by jufe:wonder, do anyone here read a bible ?? -
Originally posted by laurence82:And what Buddhists got to do with it? Its like asking, do Christians read about from books like Jin Yong? Of course I agreed Buddhist have nothing to do with the Bible or the books here mentioned, just ehy have nothing to do with theories and philosophies and the like because WHY?
they do sriptures jsut as the medival monks chant their latin mass
they saw the material worldviews of many Sporeans and say 'they are blind' because they don't know anything...
and what WHY? it's like asking Buddhists to read about
"the enlightenment by Martin Lurther''??
Men some people just don't the read the context of the above Person who
wrote:
ParDon me, R u far sighted or near ?Originally posted by jufe:wonder, do anyone here read a bible ?? -
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This thread is the thread for those who tries too hard for an answer to life or tries too hard to give answers to life.Originally posted by laurence82: