quotes from atheists(non believer of god)
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Personally, I find it illogical not to believe in God. How did existence come from nothing? How could something start without anything around to start it? It just seems to point to a supernatural entity that exists outside of our laws of physics and even logic.....
I think believing in a being outside logic seems to be an illogical answer. Logic is such tat it can described every possible occurences. If u already believe in an illogical event happening, then I can also say the trigger tat caused the creation of everything is out of logic too and it is an unintelligent incident (big bang etc), not being (god), tat caused the creation.Millions of plant and animal types present in the world stand out as evidence that proves the existence and might of our Creator.
all tis can be explained by evolution
All of these living beings, a limited number of which will be described as examples here, deserve to be examined individually. They all have different body systems, diverse defence tactics, unique ways of feeding, and interesting reproduction methods. Unfortunately, it is not possible to describe all living beings with all their features in a single book. Encyclopaedias of many volumes would not be enough for this task.
However, even the few examples we will discuss here will be sufficient to prove that life on earth can in no way be explained by coincidences or accidental happenings.
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evolution ? no way...Originally posted by stupidissmart:all tis can be explained by evolutionAccording to the theory of evolution, life originated and evolved in the sea and then was transported onto land by amphibians. This evolutionary scenario also suggests that amphibians evolved into reptiles, creatures living only on land. This scenario is again implausible, due to the enormous structural differences between these two classes of animals. For instance, the amphibian egg is designed for developing in water whereas the amniotic egg is designed for developing on land. A "step by step" evolution of an amphibian is out of the question, because without a perfect and fully-designed egg, it is not possible for a species to survive. Moreover, as usual, there is no evidence of transitional forms that were supposed to link amphibians with reptiles. Evolutionist paleontologist and an authority on vertebrate paleontology, Robert L. Carroll has to accept that "the early reptiles were very different from amphibians and that their ancestors could not be found yet."30
another interesting book..
Yet the hopelessly doomed scenarios of the evolutionists are not over yet. There still remains the problem of making these creatures fly! Since evolutionists believe that birds must somehow have been evolved, they assert that they were transformed from reptiles. However, none of the distinct mechanisms of birds, which have a completely different structure from land-dwelling animals, can be explained by gradual evolution. First of all, the wings, which are the exceptional traits of birds, are a great impasse for the evolutionists. One of the Turkish evolutionists, Engin Korur, confesses the impossibility of the evolution of wings:
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as "logical" as it sounds, its super retarded to believe everything came from a one cell organism
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Did you ever wonder why nobody bothers to start a topic: quotes from aclauseists (non believers of santa claus)
That people are interested enough to explain why they do not believe in God and people bother to start and post in a topic like this one only goes to show that God is.
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"You talking to Me .."
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that will be so illogicalOriginally posted by vito_corleone:as "logical" as it sounds, its super retarded to believe everything came from a one cell organism -
I have heard many sound arguements about God exists, but seriously yours is very weak.Originally posted by valentinoo:Personally, I find it illogical not to believe in God. How did existence come from nothing? How could something start without anything around to start it? It just seems to point to a supernatural entity that exists outside of our laws of physics and even logic.....
What you are talking about is not religion or God, but simply creator. You are saying there must be a creator for humans to be here today. But God is not just a creator, it includes ethics and values. God and religions included how human should lead their life, what should and shouldn't they do, not simply just how they are being created!
ps. Sorry if I get my info about God and religion wrong, i am a freethinker.
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About valentino, I too have the same thinking as him. But i guess you're right. That there has to be a creator, But there may not be a God.Originally posted by chenc:I have heard many sound arguements about God exists, but seriously yours is very weak.
What you are talking about is not religion or God, but simply creator. You are saying there must be a creator for humans to be here today. But God is not just a creator, it includes ethics and values. God and religions included how human should lead their life, what should and shouldn't they do, not simply just how they are being created!
ps. Sorry if I get my info about God and religion wrong, i am a freethinker.
I've just read that muslim site proving god exists. Damn interesting. About how can light be created before the sun? And how can vegetation exist before the sun was created? Why the bible calls the moon a lesser light when the moon doesn't gives off light by itself?
This is a question i want to pose to christians. Not because i hate them or anything, but I wanna know what will be their responses. -
evolution ? no way...
yes way if u know more about evolution
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/
on the wingsIn the case just mentioned, we have found a quite complete set of dinosaur-to-bird transitional fossils with no morphological "gaps" (Sereno 1999), represented by Eoraptor, Herrerasaurus, Ceratosaurus, Allosaurus, Compsognathus, Sinosauropteryx, Protarchaeopteryx, Caudipteryx, Velociraptor, Sinovenator, Beipiaosaurus, Sinornithosaurus, Microraptor, Archaeopteryx, Rahonavis, Confuciusornis, Sinornis, Patagopteryx, Hesperornis, Apsaravis, Ichthyornis, and Columba, among many others (Carroll 1997, pp. 306-323; Norell and Clarke 2001; Sereno 1999; Xu et al. 1999; Xu et al. 2000; Xu et al. 2002). All have the expected possible morphologies (see Figure 3.1.1 from Prediction 3.1 for a few examples), including organisms such as Protarchaeopteryx, Caudipteryx, and the famous "BPM 1 3-13" (a dromaeosaur from China now named Cryptovolans pauli; Czerkas et al. 2002 ) which are flightless bipedal dinosaurs with modern-style feathers (Chen et al. 1998 ; Qiang et al. 1998; Norell et al. 2002). Additionally, several similar flightless dinosaurs have been found covered with nascent evolutionary precursors to modern feathers (branched feather-like integument indistinguishable from the contour feathers of true birds), including Sinornithosaurus ("Bambiraptor"), Sinosauropteryx, Beipiaosaurus, Microraptor, and an unnamed dromaeosaur specimen, NGMC 91, informally called "Dave" (Ji et al. 2001). The All About Archaeopteryx FAQ gives a detailed listing of the various characters of Archaeopteryx which are intermediate between reptiles and modern birds.
And there r probably a few hundred evidence tat prove evolution is true. Nylon eating bacteria(nylon is manmade, invented by modern man), whales with hindlegs found (antavism, mutation of animals can only be found with existence body parts or "latent" parts, legs with toes found in a few whales), fossils(bones foudn of the past very different from ones found now). There r so many evidence of evolution tat is is a well known scientific fact tat virtually made biology.
Frankly I seem to be explaining about evolution for probably a million times.as "logical" as it sounds, its super retarded to believe everything came from a one cell organism
Well, I think it is harder to believe tat 1 day ago the earth is deviod of all living things beings and a day after there r thousands of trees and animals tat actually is more than a few years old(one day ago they r not here and a day after they r a few years old... wierd) so tat these species (lions can't eat a 1 day of deer) can last till now. It is also puzzling tat all the beings of the past present and future is all created in tat day. I mean, SARS bacteria is already with men since men is created. The bird flu is always with birds since birds r found, the spanish flu, AIDS and black death is also with men when they r just created. Look at the domesticated animals like dogs, cats, pigs, sheeps, chickens cow etc. It is well known tat they can't live in the wild. How do they survive the few thousands years before men knew how to rear animals for food ? Tis is really more ridiculousDid you ever wonder why nobody bothers to start a topic: quotes from aclauseists (non believers of santa claus)
does anybody know wat tis guy is talking about ?
That people are interested enough to explain why they do not believe in God and people bother to start and post in a topic like this one only goes to show that God is -
- Abraham Lincoln, American president (1809-1865).
Christian... The only book he read when he is small... Bible... His family a devout Christians...
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Albert Einstein
Christian- Reading from somewhere that the sciences and everything he discovered made him believe there is a God.
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Arthur C. Clarke, author
Ok Occult...
Charles Robert Darwin, English naturalist (1809-1882).
Suspected Christian... Still debated...
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-Benjamin Franklin, American Founding Father, author, and inventor
Christian
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Marilyn Manson
Occult
-Napoleon Bonaparte, French emperor
Catolic/Christian in name... Doubts his really a believer...
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Thomas Edison
Christian
[/b][/quote]So many of the people you name are believing in a God...
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he also says that one day all the religion and the dependancy of god and religion will vanish as society matures and realise its nothing but a man-made desire.Originally posted by january:this one from freud, psychologists is good
Freud certainly regarded belief in God as an illusion that mature men and women should lay aside. The idea of God was not a lie but a device of the unconscious which needed to be decoded by psychology. A personal god was nothing more than an exalted father-figure: desire for such a deity sprang from infantile yearnings for a powerful, protective father, for justice and fairness and for life to go on forever. God is simply a projection of these desires, feared and worshipped by human beings out of an abiding sense of helplessness. Religion belonged to the infancy of the human race; it had been a necessary stage in the transition from childhood to maturity. It had promoted ethical values which were essential to society. Now that humanity had come of age, however, it should be left behind. [A History of God]