what to do if ur stuck in a CCA u dont like in school
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Yes. Uniform Groups are there for a reason and definitely not what u've said.Originally posted by skyfoo:look, ug are there for a reason. join ncc to get the feel of army. want to learn specialise in first aid? join red cross and st john. want fun, go scouts and guides. feel holy? join bb/gb. and npcc leh? wear police uni and nv do police stuffs.
so tell me, what police stuffs have u learned in npcc? catch thieves? solve crimes? go patrol in the neighbourhood? no? and den why are u wearing the police uniform? and police learn campcraft for what? police need to camp ar? if u're talking about setting up the 4-man tent for the dead often seen in the tv, can understand la. but do police really need pioneering?
npcc has ah bengs = facts, not stereotyping. unless u dared to tell me npcc no ah bengs. so what other ug have gangsters, it doesnt matter. but npcc? the ug supposingly a police youth group. and gangsters in npcc, is it right? think yourself.
So u call that Police stuff? So does members of Red Cross and Saint John actually wear their Uniform around and provide first aid to those in need? Does members of NCC goes into war for Singapore? Is joining Scouts the only way to have fun and not other CCAs? Is joining BB/GB the only way if u feel holy?
Please. The purpose of uniform groups is mainly to learn the various aspects and values of the respective Uniform Groups.
The Boys' Brigade aims to advance Christ's Kingdom among boys and to promote the habits of obedience, reverence, discipline, self-respect and all that tends towards a true Christian manliness.
The Girls' Brigade aims to help girls become followers of the Lord Jesus Christ and through self control, reverence and a sense of responsibility to find enrichment in life.
Definitely not to feel holy like wad u suggest.
The aims of Singapore Red Cross Youth are to promote and encourage the participation of youth in the work of Red Cross, inculcate healthy habits of living and develop a sense of social responsibility existing between Red Cross Youth members throughout the world.
St. John Ambulance Brigade provides opportunities for members to learn and practice first aid, provide first aid, nursing and ancillary services for the injured and sick and prepare permanent structures during times of peace which may be instantly activated in times of war.
Definitely not all about First Aid.
The aim of Scout movement is to develop good citizenship among boys and youths through character training.
Definitely not only for fun.
The NCC aims to enhance the physical and mental capabilities of cadets to develop them into resourceful, resilient and loyal young men and women capable of serving the Republic as responsible adult citizens and to groom leaders for the next millennium.
Definitely not to have a feel of the army. It's more than that.
And Finally,
NPCC's comprehensive training programme includes lectures on police related matters, visits and attachments to police establishments. Cadets are also involved in a variety of challenging and meaningful outdoor activities such as adventure training camps. The varied activities, aimed at inculcating in cadets the qualities of self reliance, responsibility, discipline, civic consciousness and respect for law and order, will thus help to develop well-balanced, all rounded, responsible and caring citizens
Check the link below if u've any doubts:
http://www.moe.gov.sg/ccab/uniformed/ugsing.htm
And also, let me repeat this again. NPCC IS NOT EQUAL TO POLICE.
Get ur facts rite.
U claimed that npcc has ah bengs = facts, not stereotyping. Facts are not views of oneself. If u claimed u have facts, prove it. Dare me? Why should i take the dare? Read carefully man. I said yes, NPCC might have ah bengs but that doesn't make any sense that all other Uniform Groups does not have.
*Tsk. Such naive thinking u have.
So u say that there should not be even a single ah beng in NPCC rite becos of the image rite? Den wad about NCC? They wore army uniform and suppose to protect out nation. Shouldn't they behave as well?
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Haha! Yes i am.Originally posted by skyfoo:it doesnt matter to me. guys, he's directing to me.
Cos u're stereotyping.
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i'll be looking forward to Hitler Youth being formed worldwide as a CCA or whateva equlavant it's called overseas
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Originally posted by GHoST_18:
This is fun.
Cheers.
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wah i see a potential AWOLEE here.Originally posted by dinky1409:I was in NCC Land.. They anyhow throw me inside and I can't quit.. Sucks.. Hate it.. Play truant lor.. -
most people in my school go for cca for the points to get A1 and get scholarship. few actually like their cca, despite having 50 ccas.
anyway in my school even if you don't go nothing happens. in my cca (ncc), people who don't go for training still get points because of technical glitches which suspiciously happen every year. -
Currently, which secondary level are u in now? It may be possible for u to quit in lower sec. U haven't given the reasons for ur dislike, perhaps, it may be easier for us to help if u gave us ur reasons.Originally posted by field:im in NPCC and i hate it -_-
But if u have no choice but to stay on, then i can suggest to u that, do not take the CCA as a chore, because, with that mentality, u will never be able to benefit the soft skills from ur CCA. In many CCA, the absence of one person brings about a large inconvience to the group. Hence, i suggest u to continue ur CCA, with a last resort. That is, think that by going, u will have a nicer CCA report card.
This will generally applies to almost every CCA.
Perhaps, someone has such a sentiment like you. The NPCC HQ and Council have worked on some issues already. The NPCC Service Day was lauched several years ago. The aim, was to spread Crime Prevention messages to residents living near any NPCC Unit. Cadets play a important role in the Service Day, as they are the very ones who spread the information to the residents. With the integration of NCDCC and NPCC into HTCC, NPCC Service Day 2006 saw cadets from NPCC and NCDCC to spread Crime prevention and fire safety to residents.Originally posted by skyfoo:anw, of all the ug, npcc is the most unmeaningful one.
while npcc is wearing police uniform, it's not doing police stuffs. sana? crime-prevention? scouts/guides also have. den come do campcraft which i dun think police need that skills. the main duty of police is to maintain law and order. npcc leh? still got ah bengs inside. wtf la. the closest police stuffs they do is perhaps gg lectures and learn theories? lidat may as well scrap npcc.
NPCC is currently working on a new initiative with some NPCC Units. The initiative is Community Safety and Sercurity Programme (CSSP) bagde. Under the bagde scheme, cadets will have to identify the community needs and conerns and suggest solutions. They will be working with their Neighbourhood Police Centres (NPCs) and Town council to implement their suggestions. A simple example is the installation of grilles along the 2nd floor of some HDB corridors, to prevent balls (flying from the fustal courts) hitting residents or their property.
The campcrafts skills may seem useless. Are we talking about the soft skills and the hard skills? Even for the hard skills, the saliors are using some of the knots daily. As the soft skills component is a new area that the HQ wants to focus on, it may be some time before the effects are seen.
The main duty of the SPF is to maintain law and order of the country and safety of the community. While NPCC cannot do the former, the Corps is able to acheive the latter. NPCC is still a CCA, and like any CCA, it will have gangsters, attitude ppl and such. Apart from the prefects (student council) body, the rest of the CCA will have such people. It is inevitable and the suggestion is to request Officers-in-charge (OC) of the Unit to write in to HQ and expel such people from the Corps.
Lastly, u suggesting to close down the Corps. But do you know that the Corps is the largest Uniformed Youth Organisations (UYO) at 20,000 cadets? Even the tri-service NCC numbers at around 17,000. There must be a reason for it to be so popular within the students. By your reasoning that theories are useless, u may ask MOE to close down JCs as JC students are learning mostly theories ... ...
Finally, YES, I am from NPCC ... -
For Npcc if u wanan quit, u need to use Medical certificate to prove that you are unable to keep up as u have some leg problems( cant march) , hand problem, cannot stand in sun for too long.. all thsoe crap..
If i dont like the cca i am attending , i would jus go take my attendane and chao..but jus go there slack lor..tell teacher u sick..haha
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I seldom went for my choir practices during secondary school and I got an A1 for CCA.
I just happened to be in the team which won the Gold award during SYF.
Coolness.
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narrow-minded.Originally posted by skyfoo:anw, of all the ug, npcc is the most unmeaningful one.
ncc - army
scout/guides - all-round
bb/gb - christianity
red cross/st john - first aid
while npcc is wearing police uniform, it's not doing police stuffs. sana? crime-prevention? scouts/guides also have. den come do campcraft which i dun think police need that skills. the main duty of police is to maintain law and order. npcc leh? still got ah bengs inside. wtf la. the closest police stuffs they do is perhaps gg lectures and learn theories? lidat may as well scrap npcc.
so you think NCC all very siao on army? look in the SAF forum and u'll see how much the NSFs/NSmen detest NCC. scouts and guides have crime prevention, but we as NPCC receive better training in crime prevention as we have a direct relation to the SPF. we also have qualified first aiders in NPCC, so don't think we are so helpless.
as said before, NPCC is only a CCA, therefore to have ah bengs in it is unavoidable. so you trying to say, army don't have ah bengs? PNS dun have ah bengs? why dun u say scrap PNS, scrap NS, because inside got a lot of ah bengs? we also cannot control the type of people we get because they are the ones who join, and not all schools conduct trials to select cadets. i'll give u a suggestion, why not scrap yourself and your stupid ideas?look, ug are there for a reason. join ncc to get the feel of army. want to learn specialise in first aid? join red cross and st john. want fun, go scouts and guides. feel holy? join bb/gb. and npcc leh? wear police uni and nv do police stuffs.
join NCC to get a feel of the army?
so tell me, what police stuffs have u learned in npcc? catch thieves? solve crimes? go patrol in the neighbourhood? no? and den why are u wearing the police uniform? and police learn campcraft for what? police need to camp ar? if u're talking about setting up the 4-man tent for the dead often seen in the tv, can understand la. but do police really need pioneering?
npcc has ah bengs = facts, not stereotyping. unless u dared to tell me npcc no ah bengs. so what other ug have gangsters, it doesnt matter. but npcc? the ug supposingly a police youth group. and gangsters in npcc, is it right? think yourself.
all the SAF forum guys will laugh their asses off at your ignorant comments. did u even know that SPF sends their people to experience our Adventure Training Facilities at our Ubin campsite? such activities foster bonds and develop teamwork.
although we are not appointed as Police Officers, we are also under the SPF and MOE, under the CSSP wing. next year, NPCC and SPF are launching a pilot programme called Police Youth Ambassadors for Sec 3 cadets. other police stuff we learn, all sec 3 cadets will have a chance to attend Police Knowledge courses held annually, which will teach them about the police force, its mission and goals, its hierachy and divisions, the more common crimes and the various punishments meted out to criminals convicted of these crimes.
what exactly do we learn in NPCC? we are the largest uniformed group in Singapore, therefore we have to have a wide range of activities to cater to different cadets.
- Drills (basic, advanced, baton, rifle, flag)
- .22 revolver practice and live-firing
- .177 air rifle (some units)
- Campcraft e.g. pioneering, tent-pitching, flagstaff, field-cooking
- Kayaking
- First aid
- Leadership and mentoring skills courses
- ATC (adventure training camp at pulau ubin)
- ATF (high, low elements, at ubin)
- National heritage tour
- Service Day (a day where cadets go around the neighbourhood and promote crime prevention to the residents)
- Police-related courses, e.g. Police youth ambassadors, police knowledge
- Vists to police departments e.g. land divisions, K9 unit, CID, Police heritage centre, public affairs dept
- Non-police related courses e.g. Civil defence, SANA.
- And more.
With all these courses avaliable for the cadets, I don't see why NPCC is so meaningless to you. I wouldn't even start on what CIs and HOs learn in their respective CIBTCs or HOBTCs.
so what if most of our activities don't focus on Police-related stuff. not all of NCC's activities focus on Army-related stuff too. NPCC is not there to give u a feel of what its like to be in Police, because we are in the first place not the Police. uniformed groups are here to build up strong individuals, leaders. if there are people who choose to be ah bengs, we can't do anything about it too.
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whoa, all shooting me. good. I'm a scout btw.
Firstly, i'll like to clarify for the uniform groups and "what they do". I'm taking the view of a sec 1 kid pondering at the different uniform groups (UGs). And so you tell me, if you're now a sec 1 kid, isn't UGs are like UFOs to you, provided you're not in one during primary school. Ask anyone sec 1 kids who do not have prior knowledge of the different UGs, ask them what they think the different UGs will give them, chances are they will give the same replies as me. Do you all not agree?
From the observations of my secondary school, the recruitment of students into UGs is mainly by the uniform. A mini survey done by me conclude many sec 1 kids are appealed to the various UGs' uniforms. Asking a group of boys, who picked NPCC as 1st choice, why the choice made, all answered they want to wear the 'police' uniform. And I ask my own scouts why they join scouts in the first place, again, the uniform. So judging from all these, can't you realise that those new recruits are joining UGs influenced by the 'untrue nature' of the various UGs? Someone did mentioned that NPCC =/ Police, but does the
ENLIGHTEN us on the role of the Singapore Police Force, help to build a stronger bond of friendship with them, and so lead to a safer place for all in the country.
This is one of the vision of NPCC. Judging from the police image in NPCC, you tell me, isn't it ironic that gangsters are wearing the uniform, which supposed to maintain law and order? They themselves are breaking laws and still expected to "lead to a safer place for all in the country." And obviously this does not apply to other CCAs or army, so why bother to argue about that? Ah bengs still can go to war right? ~~~
And to CK, from dictionary.com (a reliable source for meanings of words), fact = Something demonstrated to exist or known to have existed. Stereotype = A conventional, formulaic, and oversimplified conception, opinion, or image. I made a statement the "NPCC has ah bengs." You yourself agree that it's true. So that make it a fact. If I say "NPCC is full of ah bengs because I saw some NPCC cadets displayed actions of gangsterism manner yesterday", this is stereotyping. You get it now? -
scout. no wonder you said scouts and guides are all rounders. bleh. so now you are pointing out ah bengs in NPCC. well let me tell you something. for the record, everyone who comes into NPCC is almost nearly a "blur-Sec-1-who-doesn't-know-anything". NPCC trainings only occur once or twice a week, and during the other five or six days a week, what the cadets want to do outside, we also cannot control right? our training programme is only there to educate, in the hopes that they would follow what we have taught. but if they do not wish to do so, we also cannot force it upon them.
also, by saying what you said, it is okay to have ah bengs in NCC, Scouts, BB? it is okay to have ah lians in Guides, GB, Red cross? why single out NPCC? so what if we are a Police CCA? Ultimately it is only a CCA. ANYONE CAN JOIN A CCA. The values a CCA teaches, ultimately it is up to the individual to follow.
I can also tell you for a fact there are ah bengs who are serving as Police NSFs..so what are you going to do about that? Scrap PNS?
Since you're not happy about this, stop being a spoilt brat trying to flame NPCC by hiding behind that computer screen of yours, why not be a man and write in to the Govt, MOE, NPCC HQ, SPF Manpower dept, CMPB, Straits Times, say there are tons of ah bengs in PNS and NPCC, go and scrap PNS and NPCC. -
if u read clearly, my idea of scraping NPCC is that the police stuffs they did is so minimal. and so what's the point of wearing police uniform and do non-police stuffs. that's my point. clearly u're trying to make me a anti-npcc so as to make me the bad guy. that's too obvious. i'm stating my point of view, without the flaming part. please stop trying to act being the good guy, it makes me sickOriginally posted by Deunamist:scout. no wonder you said scouts and guides are all rounders. bleh. so now you are pointing out ah bengs in NPCC. well let me tell you something. for the record, everyone who comes into NPCC is almost nearly a "blur-Sec-1-who-doesn't-know-anything". NPCC trainings only occur once or twice a week, and during the other five or six days a week, what the cadets want to do outside, we also cannot control right? our training programme is only there to educate, in the hopes that they would follow what we have taught. but if they do not wish to do so, we also cannot force it upon them.
also, by saying what you said, it is okay to have ah bengs in NCC, Scouts, BB? it is okay to have ah lians in Guides, GB, Red cross? why single out NPCC? so what if we are a Police CCA? Ultimately it is only a CCA. ANYONE CAN JOIN A CCA. The values a CCA teaches, ultimately it is up to the individual to follow.
I can also tell you for a fact there are ah bengs who are serving as Police NSFs..so what are you going to do about that? Scrap PNS?
Since you're not happy about this, stop being a spoilt brat trying to flame NPCC by hiding behind that computer screen of yours, why not be a man and write in to the Govt, MOE, NPCC HQ, SPF Manpower dept, CMPB, Straits Times, say there are tons of ah bengs in PNS and NPCC, go and scrap PNS and NPCC. -
how do you know that the police stuff is so minimal when YOU ARE AN OUTSIDER. PERIOD.
Drill is non-police stuff? Did you know that SPF's drills are the best in SG? even my SAF/SCDF friends say so.
Leadership is non-police stuff?
Teamwork is non-police stuff?
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fine. i can say nth. u win ok?
how do you know that the police stuff is so minimal when [b]YOU ARE AN OUTSIDER. PERIOD.[/b] -
join NCC to learn about army, maybe. to get a feel of the army?
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haiz... small kid.Originally posted by Deunamist:join NCC to learn about army, maybe. to get a feel of the army? -
how old do you think you are, Mr. Scout?
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my word shldnt be read literally.Originally posted by Deunamist:how old do you think you are, Mr. Scout? -
Originally posted by skyfoo:whoa, all shooting me. good. I'm a scout btw.
Firstly, i'll like to clarify for the uniform groups and "what they do". I'm taking the view of a sec 1 kid pondering at the different uniform groups (UGs). And so you tell me, if you're now a sec 1 kid, isn't UGs are like UFOs to you, provided you're not in one during primary school. Ask anyone sec 1 kids who do not have prior knowledge of the different UGs, ask them what they think the different UGs will give them, chances are they will give the same replies as me. Do you all not agree?
I do not agree with what u said. Althought the fact that some CCAs are not available in Primary School, majority of the CCAs offered in Secondary School are readily available in Primary School level. Even Uniform Group as well. Scouts and Brownies? Aren't they available in primary school?
From the observations of my secondary school, the recruitment of students into UGs is mainly by the uniform. A mini survey done by me conclude many sec 1 kids are appealed to the various UGs' uniforms. Asking a group of boys, who picked NPCC as 1st choice, why the choice made, all answered they want to wear the 'police' uniform. And I ask my own scouts why they join scouts in the first place, again, the uniform. So judging from all these, can't you realise that those new recruits are joining UGs influenced by the 'untrue nature' of the various UGs? Someone did mentioned that NPCC =/ Police, but does the
Ok. Can i ask u question? U claimed that Secondary 1 students chose to join the various Uniform Goups according to the appeal of their Uniforms or the activities conducted? Cos the conclusion of ur survey is rather ridiculous and only proves the attractiveness and appeals of various Uniform and NOT the activities conducted. So what does that got to do with joining of CCAs and doing the activities the various Uniform Groups are "ought" to carry out?
It's really ur own assumptions. Let me give u an anology. If ur school's soccer team's jersey looks similar to football giants like Barcelona, Manchester United or Liverpool, does it mean that by joining the school soccer team, you would be able to play in the respective stadiums and train with the respective football stars?
The reason why they chose to join the respective Uniform Group is because they find their Uniform much more appealing and attractive. I dare to say that Red Cross and Saint John don't as much members as the other Uniform Group because their Uniform looks awkward, especilly for the males. So does it mean that no one wants to learn about First Aid?
ENLIGHTEN us on the role of the Singapore Police Force, help to build a stronger bond of friendship with them, and so lead to a safer place for all in the country.
This is one of the vision of NPCC. Judging from the police image in NPCC, you tell me, isn't it ironic that gangsters are wearing the uniform, which supposed to maintain law and order? They themselves are breaking laws and still expected to "lead to a safer place for all in the country." And obviously this does not apply to other CCAs or army, so why bother to argue about that? Ah bengs still can go to war right? ~~~
Eh. I think u misunderstood the meaning of this sentence. It basically means that by joining NPCC, u'll learn about the value and role of Singapore Police Force and build a frenship WITH the Police Force and WITH that, we can have a much safer place in Singapore. Brush up ur English.
LOL! Like i've said. Understand the statement first before u comment. NPCC cadets are NOT suppose to maintain law and order but HELP in maintaining by not committing crimes. Have u seen those in NPCC breaking the law before? Stop making baseless remarks. Wa~ Den when the war comes we all die cos u said that Army do not help in making Singapore a safer place.
And to CK, from dictionary.com (a reliable source for meanings of words), fact = Something demonstrated to exist or known to have existed. Stereotype = A conventional, formulaic, and oversimplified conception, opinion, or image. I made a statement the "NPCC has ah bengs." You yourself agree that it's true. So that make it a fact. If I say "NPCC is full of ah bengs because I saw some NPCC cadets displayed actions of gangsterism manner yesterday", this is stereotyping. You get it now?
Ah.. But u forgot to mention that fact is also the truth. I said that u're stereotyping becos u're making a theory of ur own and wants everyone to believe that wad u're saying is true.
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Read my above post, the HQ is working more initatives to increase 'police related stuff'. Note that maintaining law and order is the SPF mission. WHile the NPCC MISSION is to develop its cadets into caring and responsible citizens.Originally posted by skyfoo:if u read clearly, my idea of scraping NPCC is that the police stuffs they did is so minimal. and so what's the point of wearing police uniform and do non-police stuffs. that's my point.
The VISION of the National Police Cadet Corps is to mould the builders of a safe & secure home.
We work towards our own missions and visions. Dun tell me that NCC and SAF have the same mission and vision. The rest of the UYOs, also work in line to their mission and vision, not towards their affilate (spelling??) groups.
U say that the irony is 'ah bengs' wearing the 'police' uniform. Let me say that the NPCC uniform is now totally different form the SPF one, even the material ... Maybe the HQ knows that rubbish ppl will occur anywhere and made a rule that no cadet is allowed to wear their Full U in public unless during Service Day, and in some cases, NPCC Day as well.
When 'ah beng' wear the uniform, so far, i see that those ppl wear their uniform properly. I seen before NCC cadets wearing 'LONG 4' ... and scouts without their scarfes on ... Disrepecting the uniform? I haven't seen many from NPCC.
Yes, i have somewhat agree. i also carried out a mini survey too. The first 3 reasons (in no order) are, (1) Uniform is nice, (2) Older Silbing/cousins in NPCC, (3) Childhood dream wana jioin SPF.Originally posted by skyfoo:Firstly, i'll like to clarify for the uniform groups and "what they do". I'm taking the view of a sec 1 kid pondering at the different uniform groups (UGs). And so you tell me, if you're now a sec 1 kid, isn't UGs are like UFOs to you, provided you're not in one during primary school. Ask anyone sec 1 kids who do not have prior knowledge of the different UGs, ask them what they think the different UGs will give them, chances are they will give the same replies as me. Do you all not agree?
From the observations of my secondary school, the recruitment of students into UGs is mainly by the uniform. A mini survey done by me conclude many sec 1 kids are appealed to the various UGs' uniforms. Asking a group of boys, who picked NPCC as 1st choice, why the choice made, all answered they want to wear the 'police' uniform. And I ask my own scouts why they join scouts in the first place, again, the uniform. So judging from all these, can't you realise that those new recruits are joining UGs influenced by the 'untrue nature' of the various UGs? Someone did mentioned that NPCC =/ Police, but does the
ENLIGHTEN us on the role of the Singapore Police Force, help to build a stronger bond of friendship with them, and so lead to a safer place for all in the country.[/i]
This is one of the vision of NPCC. Judging from the police image in NPCC, you tell me, isn't it ironic that gangsters are wearing the uniform, which supposed to maintain law and order? They themselves are breaking laws and still expected to "lead to a safer place for all in the country."
The 1st reason, Uniform is nice, is certainly because the SPF has done a very good job in projecting in image. Many of the CIs also set a high standard in Uniform etiquette. NPCC certainly helps for the next 2 reasons, certainly. I dun think I need to reason out here.
How in Ah bengs break the law? Shoplifting, murder, rioting? If u are talking about school rules, that sounds absurb. Do you know that u are breaking the sch rules when u are late for sch ? Even prefects break the rules themselves.
I think we have said enough, while some of us here got abit far, we all mean the same thing. NPCC does not deserved to be scrapped ... -
You know, my time is, you choose your own CCA, so most people are happy with their CCA
Now i heard some variations like, this school require you to join uniformed group lar, that school require you to go for tryouts, join a CCA
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In Singapore, CCAs are only used for one purpose. And for one purpose only.
To sweeten up your uni or poly applications.
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firstly, let me share with u guys an incident last year. i was at a fast-food restaurant last year when a fight broke out. it's was between a guy in 40s and a supposingly gang leader. when the fight took place, there was this bunch of NPCC NCOs, NCOs, not cadets, besides my table. throughout the fight, they were just watching the 'show', doing nth. though i dun expected them to stop the fight or what, the least they can do is call the police or the security guards? no they didnt, they just watch show. so, after the incident, it led me to wonder what's the use of the NPCC if their members cant even respond to a fight in public.Originally posted by gd4u:Yes, i have somewhat agree. i also carried out a mini survey too. The first 3 reasons (in no order) are, (1) Uniform is nice, (2) Older Silbing/cousins in NPCC, (3) Childhood dream wana jioin SPF.
The 1st reason, Uniform is nice, is certainly because the SPF has done a very good job in projecting in image. Many of the CIs also set a high standard in Uniform etiquette. NPCC certainly helps for the next 2 reasons, certainly. I dun think I need to reason out here.
How in Ah bengs break the law? Shoplifting, murder, rioting? If u are talking about school rules, that sounds absurb. Do you know that u are breaking the sch rules when u are late for sch ? Even prefects break the rules themselves.
I think we have said enough, while some of us here got abit far, we all mean the same thing. NPCC does not deserved to be scrapped ...
about the gangsterism in NPCC, u all have to admit that wearing the uniform, NPCC has to uphold the police image. vandalism is considered breaking the law right? i've seen NPCC cadets writing indecent messages on bus seats, not to mention other petty crimes, nevertheless still breaking the law.
i have to admit that my idea of scraping NPCC is controversy, but i made my point. from all the arguments made, u're the only one who made valid points which i accept and to some extent prove my words wrong. to the others, pls stop arguing just for the sake of putting me down coz u're NPCC, argue like gd4u.