Why Does Local Media Stereotype Indians?
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Damn loser who has to resort to clones to talk to himself. To try and 'pretend
that a lot of people like Bollywood. Damn sad really. -
Well said. I agree to the fact that everyone gets their turn. =)Originally posted by spinsugar:Back to the topic > typically, groups of people who stand out with their differences in behavior/appearance etc get stereotyped in the local media (and globally too), not just Indians. Interestingly, I learnt pretty recently that even our Singaporean Indians stereotype their from-India counterparts.
The majority race (chinese) is not spared either. Common stereotypes seen on TV incl the feeble funny old chinese granny (popularlised by liang popo), the Ah Beng & Ah Lian, the SPG, among other things.
Anyways its not just Singaporean Indians stereotyping Indian Indians. Its the other way too =) You will be surprised man.. lol..
Its pretty irritating though when the less informed, ignorant fools in Singapore tend to think that Bollywood is all about dancing around trees (that is oh-so-outdated
) and thinking that all speak with an accent. 
But well thats the way it is when you tell something new to a "frog in a well". They tend to generalise and stereotype everything.
And Krrish, it will be much better if you were to spend your time "popularising" Bollywood elsewhere were people appreciate it man.
Stop spreading this blatant stereotyping of Indians..
Yet another clone -
...bcos their actions/way of living are too predictable
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Meaning? Can u clarify?Originally posted by Solid_Snake:...bcos their actions/way of living are too predictable
You can predict people's life already ah?
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its nothing racist or what. the media shows chinese people queueing for free things too.Originally posted by NirVaniC:Although I'm not Indian myself, I can't help but notice the blatant stereotypes. Its either the heavy, fake Indian accent or the bland imitation of Indian dances (Esp dancing arouund a tree). It's rather rude, considering the fact that you don't see the Chinese or Malay community being stereotypically potrayed in this manner. -
Bollywood is not about dancing around tree lah .. give me a single bollywood movie since 2000 which has this trend? it is Zero.
maybe those old movies from the 70s and 80s has it. but in those times ppl are narrow minded. trends have changed.
Now has Superhero, thriller, romantic drama and even about Alien ( Koi Mil Gaya - prequel to KRRISH). name it.
In the 80s:
dumb stories.
actor/ actress who look like aunties and uncles .
Reel cinematography.
Mono sound
In the 2000s
Interesting Stories .actor/ actress who look like models.
Digital cinematography .
DTS sound
Biggest improvement is the music. Presently it is all synthesised.
Due to AR Rahman who appeared too early in the early 90s revolutionised the concept of sound. If u look back, his technology is groundbreaking. It happened too early too soon. -
And yet no one here knows anything about Bollywood. Oh right. We DONT CARE!!Originally posted by KRRISH:Bollywood is not about dancing around tree lah .. give me a single bollywood movie since 2000 which has this trend? it is Zero.
maybe those old movies from the 70s and 80s has it. but in those times ppl are narrow minded. trends have changed.
Now has Superhero, thriller, romantic drama and even about Alien ( Koi Mil Gaya - prequel to KRRISH). name it.
In the 80s:
dumb stories.
actor/ actress who look like aunties and uncles .
Reel cinematography.
Mono sound
In the 2000s
Interesting Stories .actor/ actress who look like models.
Digital cinematography .
DTS sound
Biggest improvement is the music. Presently it is all synthesised.
Due to AR Rahman who appeared too early in the early 90s revolutionised the concept of sound. If u look back, his technology is groundbreaking. It happened too early too soon. -
But tamil movie can see some of the awesome fight and action . Raw fist and fight.
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Who is AR Rahman? Is he like Yanni?
Btw I didnt know Munabbhai MBBS is a movie name. I thought it was a username by someone here only. -
With due respect to you KRRISH, I started this topic to gather some ideas if particular races are stereotyped by the local media; Not for you to promote hindi and tamil movies, and futher extoll them..
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wa lao eh.....
enough liao not?
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repeat post.
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Originally posted by #$%^&*:Who is AR Rahman? Is he like Yanni?
Btw I didnt know Munabbhai MBBS is a movie name. I thought it was a username by someone here only.
Who is AR Rahman,? Good Question. Do a search on the net and u will find his bio is everywhere.
Born in India
He is a technology idealist + Composer + multi millionaire
Something like Music Bill gates who pioneered a style of music which uses 3D accoustic effects and elaborate complicated synthesiser layering giving mood and style to a piece of song.
Before i go further, his music = imagine music in India in the year 2050. But he already started doing that in 1992.Which exactly what made him famous.
Better. His music is like very scientific stuff . Used lot of technology. Makes " industrialised " sound of the modern era. Currently some music establishments in the world are studying his music patterns. other Famous personalities in the world have been impressed with his music as well. He carefully selects his projects and people whom he works with. His entry into films was unexpected and unplanned and rather a priviledge to get him to sign a film
In the 90s Rahman made his name doing extraordinary pop songs which sounded like years in the future. even when compared to rest of the world. Gradually his styles became more diverse. In the 2000s, He's more down to earth making normal stuff rather than extraordinary. Once in a while he returns to his former glory.
When others play a flute, they just use flute . When he plays he feeds them into a computer, tweaks , and then gives a new unique sound. Plus he does some new technologically savy music stuff u wont find anywhere in the world. His biggest advantage , he mix and matches all kinds of music to come up with something new everytime which u cant classfy under a single genre.
And his sound is very clear quality and exciting.
Jus for the info u may want to hear this song which is around 8 yrs old.
The sound which it oozes is a new kind of sound athestic . Remember this was 8 yrs ago. that was 1998. The craze of latin music was around. SO AR. Rahman made a song which sounds latin but a bit of a mix of techno stuff.
The song is "Columbus Columbus" from Jeans. The background beat is like something slapping against paper. I dunno how to best describe it. Welcome to 2050. This is how music may look in 2050. But appeared in 1998.
http://www.raaga.com/channels/tamil/movie/T0000064.html
BGMS - Not songs but just some bits of music during dialogues.
best exampkle i can give u here:
http://singingphotons.net/arrbgm/KK/ -
Well Columbus Columbus song is not his best song. But it has some pretty cool sound effects. Once my chinese colleague asked me who did the music and he said he finds it very unique. ... Then later he wanted to hear all his other songs as well. i gave him some Cds i had. BTW he doesnt make this kind of techy fast songs anymore. since 2002, his sense of this style has dying, rather doing love or romantic songs, but still his distinguishing style is there even in these songs and rather prefering to keep low profile ,
holding concerts for charity, going tours and giving lectures in music production in western countries.
AR Rahman is also a UN ambassador now appointed by Kofi Annan for the Fight against TB worldwide campaign.
UN's Kofi Annan likes Rahman sir's music -
what the?
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er, hello thread starter. you go fly kite lah!Originally posted by KRRISH:
AR Rahman,? Good Question. He is a technology idealist + Composer. Something like Music Bill gates who pioneered a style of music which uses 3D accoustic effects and elaborate complicated synthesiser layering giving mood and style to a piece of song.
Before i go further, his music = imagine music in India in the year 2050. But he already started doing that in 1992.Which exactly what made him famous.
Better. His music is like very scientific stuff . Used lot of technology. Makes " industrialised " sound of the modern era. Currently some music establishments in the world are studying his music patterns. other Famous personalities in the world have been impressed with his music as well. He carefully selects his projects and people whom he works with. His entry into films was unexpected and unplanned and rather a priviledge to get him to sign a film
In the 90s Rahman made his name doing extraordinary pop songs which sounded like years in the future. even when compared to rest of the world. Gradually his styles became more diverse. In the 2000s, He's more down to earth making normal stuff rather than extraordinary. Once in a while he returns to his former glory.
When others play a flute, they just use flute . When he plays he feeds them into a computer, tweaks , and then gives a new unique sound. Plus he does some new technologically savy music stuff u wont find anywhere in the world. His biggest advantage , he mix and matches all kinds of music to come up with something new everytime which u cant classfy under a single genre.
And his sound is very clear quality and exciting.
Jus for the info u may want to hear this song which is around 8 yrs old.
The sound which it oozes is a new kind of sound athestic . Remember this was 8 yrs ago. that was 1998. The craze of latin music was around. SO AR. Rahman made a song which sounds latin but a bit of a mix of techno stuff.
The song is "Columbus Columbus" from Jeans. The background beat is like something slapping against paper. I dunno how to best describe it. Welcome to 2050. This is how music may look in 2050. But appeared in 1998.
http://www.raaga.com/channels/tamil/movie/T0000064.html
BGMS - Not songs but just some bits of music during dialogues.
best exampkle i can give u here:
http://singingphotons.net/arrbgm/KK/ -
u just wait...he is gona list out all the movies in entire bollywood history that have kite-flying scenes in them.Originally posted by Rejected:er, hello thread starter. you go fly kite lah!
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He wanted to know. So i gave him info. Is that wrong?Originally posted by Rejected:er, hello thread starter. you go fly kite lah! -
Wah.. Krrish. Can u Shut up? -_-
Lucky I am not the mod! Else I would have banned you long time ago... -
Anyway the 90s Indian fusion era music is over. Sadly it was the best because it had the most technologically advanced indian songs by Rahman.
AR Rahman will be working with Baz Luhrmann , director of Moulin Rogue in Hollywood next.
Here is the excerpt:
Comment from Baz Luhrmann
"I had come to the music of AR Rahman through the emotional and haunting score of 'Bombay' and the wit and celebration of 'Lagaan'. But the more of AR's music I encountered the more I was to be amazed at the sheer diversity of styles: from swinging brass bands to triumphant anthems; from joyous pop to West-End musicals ('Bombay Dreams'). Whatever the style, AR Rahman's music always possesses a profound sense of humanity and spirit, qualities that inspire me the most." Baz Luhrmann, noted Film Director, Sydney (Australia), 14-July-2005. -
Originally posted by KRRISH:
shut the fuck up.
Anyway the 90s Indian fusion era music is over. Sadly it was the best because it had the most technologically advanced indian songs by Rahman.
AR Rahman will be working with Baz Luhrmann , director of Moulin Rogue in Hollywood next.
Here is the excerpt:
[b]Comment from Baz Luhrmann
"I had come to the music of AR Rahman through the emotional and haunting score of 'Bombay' and the wit and celebration of 'Lagaan'. But the more of AR's music I encountered the more I was to be amazed at the sheer diversity of styles: from swinging brass bands to triumphant anthems; from joyous pop to West-End musicals ('Bombay Dreams'). Whatever the style, AR Rahman's music always possesses a profound sense of humanity and spirit, qualities that inspire me the most." Baz Luhrmann, noted Film Director, Sydney (Australia), 14-July-2005.[/b] -
Wait a sec guys.. I'm the thread starter, not KRRISH.. And like I stated above, I do not approve of KRRISH's constant extolling of Bollywood either.. In fact it's really getting on my nerves..
I would appreciate it if KRRISH would either leave this topic permanently, or stay and discuss issues related to the topic title. Thank you. -
why the sudden hiostility. Try listening to his usic and u will find it is good.
all i can say his computerised sound effect is out of this world.
Rahman's strength lies not only in his perfect sense of melody and rhythm but also in his immaculate sound engineering. His music has been hailed as that of the digital age and has also been assailed for the very same reason. His music can never be adequately described in words. One has to personally experience the pleasure of his creations. Many of his compositions might actually sound ordinary the first time. But his music has this amazing capacity to grow on you and establish a firm hold on the listener. His compositions are an intriguing cocktail of musical pieces that literally blow your mind. His music is unique in its offbeat instrumental interludes, unconventional harmonies, and use of far from perfect voices and thumping rhythms.
Rahman did more: he made the soundtrack of each movie sold as if it were a separate entity from the film itself. And as if to prove him right, his music assumed a life of its own, flying off the shelves at record speed even when the film in question bombed at the boxoffice. -
I told u there are universities which are studying his music. People don do this of he is just ordinary,
http://jgetter.web.wesleyan.edu/cv.html
"A New Sound for a Globalizing India? National Identity in A. R.
Rahman's Music." Annual meeting of the Society for Ethnomusicology /
Musical Intersections Conference, Toronto. 2000.
"Indian Film Music: An Introduction with a Focus on the Music of A.R.
Rahman." Research Day, Research and Scholarship Advisory Committee,
Southern Connecticut State University. 2000. -
KRRISH, you should do these 3 things..
1) Learn To Read.
2) Learn To Spell.
3) Leave OR Stay and discuss something relevant.
Not everybody is an A.R Rahman ass-kisser like you are. You should learn to respect that and type something productive that everyone else can relate to, instead of wasting precious minutes of everyone's lives.
Now I hope you were able to get all of that, cause it would be pathetic on your part if you weren't able to.