Why Is It Wrong To Be Gay In Singapore??
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In Singapore we are more a conservative type, and therefore most but not all of the people think gays are not tolerable. I hope we shall learn like other country who are more tolerable to gays. Being gay in not a crime, but it's the maturity of one who define gay as.
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Well ok;Originally posted by mhcampboy:Gays aren't criminals. Why aren't they giving credit they should get as equal. No discussion on relgious issues please.
Why is it some people tend to dislike them. Even to the extent of looking disgusted at them.
Even from the olden era's, being gay was a norm.
Look at Alexander the Great. He ruled almost the entire world. But it was speculated he was gay. With his gay servant Bagoa as his favourite one.
Why do suddenly becoming gay is like a cultural backlash?
Even now, we have Rejected and Bontakun leaving side by side here in forums. Happy and being accepted by many.
Disclaimer: Do not speculate Im gay just by this thread...
Singapore may be structurally developed in terms of commerce and industries. But, SOCIETY has yet to catch up - society is NOT developed yet.
Humans come in many forms and character traits, and this includes being gay. They are indeed no different from non-gay people, except their sexual preferences.
This having said, I don't imply that I encourage gay acts or the conversion to one, I just personally am broad-minded on this subject matter.
Do you know, a lot of gay individuals tend to be HIGHLY artistic and creative at work and as a specialist? I don't view them as misfits - they just have a different preference, and I also respect what they can do for a living in whatever they specialize in. One example are the many hair-stylists who does great a job styling your hair.
This world has enough of differences towards one another. The day we accept each others' differences in all aspects, PEACE can potentially be realized. -
U not qualified to be one... U qualified to be da other...Originally posted by missqi:i am half gay
Oei... Campy... Dun anyhow openly sae... muz hush hush on mee & Rejected... Shhhhh~~~~ 
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bryan singer, ian mckellen, elton john, leslie chueng, george michael, cai kang yong.
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People, work towards tolerance.
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I agree with this.Originally posted by ShutterBug:Well ok;
Singapore may be structurally developed in terms of commerce and industries. But, SOCIETY has yet to catch up - society is NOT developed yet.
Humans come in many forms and character traits, and this includes being gay. They are indeed no different from non-gay people, except their sexual preferences.
This having said, I don't imply that I encourage gay acts or the conversion to one, I just personally am broad-minded on this subject matter.
Do you know, a lot of gay individuals tend to be HIGHLY artistic and creative at work and as a specialist? I don't view them as misfits - they just have a different preference, and I also respect what they can do for a living in whatever they specialize in. One example are the many hair-stylists who does great a job styling your hair.
This world has enough of differences towards one another. The day we accept each others' differences in all aspects, PEACE can potentially be realized. -
wah, ya lor ya lor. i did feel a bit uncomfortable when i watched the movie which starred Colin Farrell. sia lah, he KISSED him. oh well, it's up to each individual to decide who they want to love.Originally posted by mhcampboy:Gays aren't criminals. Why aren't they giving credit they should get as equal. No discussion on relgious issues please.
Why is it some people tend to dislike them. Even to the extent of looking disgusted at them.
Even from the olden era's, being gay was a norm.
Look at Alexander the Great. He ruled almost the entire world. But it was speculated he was gay. With his gay servant Bagoa as his favourite one.
Why do suddenly becoming gay is like a cultural backlash?
Even now, we have Rejected and Bontakun leaving side by side here in forums. Happy and being accepted by many.
Disclaimer: Do not speculate Im gay just by this thread... 
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Because being gay is just not rite. Nowadays, ppl are getting affluent.They need not fret about having nowhere to eat and no place to stay. Tt is why ppl have time to ponder about their sexuality and stuff. I mean have you ever seen gay prehistoric men before? They were to busy trying to survive to think about such stuff. Just find a mate, have children and go. Look at our closest genetic relatives. Have u ever seen gay gorillas or gay monkeys before? No? Well, they too are too busy surviving to think about it. If every species was gay then whose gonna have younglings for the next generation?
The majority ppl are not gay, and ppl are scared of others who are different from them. Tt is why ppl are apprehended about accepting them. If Alexander the great is ruling the world now, I can assure you, gays wil be recognised lawfully and given their rights.
PS: Not tt im super anti or anything, just stating point of view. I am open minded about such stuff.hee... -
last time can meh??? when???Originally posted by mhcampboy:yar legally wrong. but why cannot be accepted?
last time can.. now cannot..
since its legally wrong, so that means gays are criminal right.....hmmm....... -
not last time as in few years ago in singapore la.Originally posted by fornight:last time can meh??? when???
since its legally wrong, so that means gays are criminal right.....hmmm.......
i meant during the olden days.
m to m or w to w relationship was a norm. -
Because double standards exist.Originally posted by DamienSaputra:With all this talk about being gay and stuff, what about the lesbians? How come they seem to be accepted here? -
Are you sure it was a norm in the past???Originally posted by mhcampboy:not last time as in few years ago in singapore la.
i meant during the olden days.
m to m or w to w relationship was a norm. -
maybe also becos two lesbians are also guy's fantasy!!!
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It is.Originally posted by hoolala:Are you sure it was a norm in the past???
Search your history. And you will find societies accepted gays as a norm.
back then roman emperors had affairs with like 12 year old boys. the olden catholic cardinals and even popes had young boys as for their sexual pleasure.
even the muslim empire sultans...like the ancient afghan king and ottoman sultan.
even a japanese shogun. -
Don't forget the Chinese emperors and their eunuchs too.Originally posted by mhcampboy:It is.
Search your history. And you will find societies accepted gays as a norm.
back then roman emperors had affairs with like 12 year old boys. the olden catholic cardinals and even popes had young boys as for their sexual pleasure.
even the muslim empire sultans...like the ancient afghan king and ottoman sultan.
even a japanese shogun. -
Yar. And I just wonder how is it that our modern value judgement clashes with theirs?Originally posted by iveco:Don't forget the Chinese emperors and their eunuchs too.
Olden societies can live with gays. But not now...? -
Blame it on the British colonists and their born-again Christian fervour.Originally posted by mhcampboy:Yar. And I just wonder how is it that our modern value judgement clashes with theirs?
Olden societies can live with gays. But not now...? -
is it a norm in the older era? a great person being a gay doesn't mean that it's a norm at that time wat.Originally posted by mhcampboy:Even from the olden era's, being gay was a norm.
Look at Alexander the Great. He ruled almost the entire world. But it was speculated he was gay. With his gay servant Bagoa as his favourite one.
Why do suddenly becoming gay is like a cultural backlash?
dun think that homosexualism has SUDDENLY become a cultural backlash.
in fact, i think it's probably much more accepted than last time. -
wat do Chinese emperors got to do with being gay? eunuchs are bo bian wat, which girl would want them.Originally posted by iveco:Don't forget the Chinese emperors and their eunuchs too. -
They can do that becos they are the kings and emperors....other can do nothing abt it becos they are the kings and emperors....if it's a commoner having a gay affair....they will be killedOriginally posted by mhcampboy:It is.
Search your history. And you will find societies accepted gays as a norm.
back then roman emperors had affairs with like 12 year old boys. the olden catholic cardinals and even popes had young boys as for their sexual pleasure.
even the muslim empire sultans...like the ancient afghan king and ottoman sultan.
even a japanese shogun. -
Hmmm.Originally posted by Bontakun:U not qualified to be one... U qualified to be da other...
Oei... Campy... Dun anyhow openly sae... muz hush hush on mee & Rejected... Shhhhh~~~~
You have to QUALIFY to be gay?
I am bisexual ma...
So me = half gay... -
you got mixed up between top echeleons and commoners and societies.Originally posted by hoolala:They can do that becos they are the kings and emperors....other can do nothing abt it becos they are the kings and emperors....if it's a commoner having a gay affair....they will be killed
if i named henry and kenny were gay during ancient greece. would you recognized them? tats y i used historical figures as an example.
now.. visualize ancient greece. the term homosexual wasnt invented yet.
man to man relationship was the same as man to woman.this does not apply only to the emperors but yet, ancient greece was one of the greatest empire ever. -
I guess in the point of view for both science and religion. Homo relationship is wrong...
Anything that defies the reproduction and survival of the species defies science and evolution theory. Simply all creatures comes with the ability to survive and continue. We needn't even get into religion.
People able to pull off the stuns in the past simply because they have the power and influence to do so. For example Richard the Lionheart and even france's duke during Joan de arc. Not that the culture allows but because he is the king. Normal people who are caught homosexual will have to face death by the church. With those kinda torture device that split the anus open. This explain that in the past there are social cultures that forbid this. Particularly in the Chinese and Middle Eastern Society. And the example which you put are isolated. Simply they have to power to do things without consequence.
Greek, and Roman are one of those society that has not yes and not in it. And it doesn't prove Alexander the Great is a gay. In greek the only city that forbid gay simply because they viewed gay as a sign of weakness is Sparta. But in their tough regieme of Discipline. There are still isolated incidents of intercourse between man in the field due to urge.
This explain that Although there are stories of gay activities in the past in many culture doesn't mean it is generally accepted! The examples which you pull are just a face of the coin. Doesn't tell the whole story. -
it could be due to some bad experiences that the poor guy had when he still cant protect himself back then which leads him to what he is today perhapsOriginally posted by MohamedF:It is also biologically and reproduction systemlly wrong... -
its notOriginally posted by R3SsH|n:against the norm...
singapore is a conservative country...
its just makes the singapore population growth be stucked at a certain lvl
if there aren't new babies, who will take over the jobs of those being retrenched??
it's all about how the country is functioning..
think in terms of that, and you will get the ans