Bad Horse Bite - Gallop Stable @ Pasir Ris
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i would like to know whether while you were petting the foal, did you see peanut's (the mum) reaction? Was she already curling her teeth and/or what was her body language?
It is natural for a mother to be protective towards her young but then I do agree that Gallop Stable should have at least tied the mum up if they knew (however remotely) that she would be protective towards her foal.
Horses are by nature gentle and tolerative animals. Could be someone did 'abuse' her foal before and that's y she's so intolerant towards strangers now. -
There were alot of people petting and feeding the foal, including myself. Peanut was strangely nonchalant about it.Originally posted by spirit24:i would like to know whether while you were petting the foal, did you see peanut's (the mum) reaction? Was she already curling her teeth and/or what was her body language?
It is natural for a mother to be protective towards her young but then I do agree that Gallop Stable should have at least tied the mum up if they knew (however remotely) that she would be protective towards her foal.
Horses are by nature gentle and tolerative animals. Could be someone did 'abuse' her foal before and that's y she's so intolerant towards strangers now.
She was very, very unresponsive and withdrawn unlike the other ponies .. and her appearance was very emaciated. The foal tried to suckle from her but she didn't appear to have much milk and it gave up. You could see her pelvic bones jutting out prominently, and her ribcage outline could be seen clearly. When she came over, her eyes were fixed on the food in my hand. I gave her a few more handfuls, as did a few other young children half my height. She used her snout and slowly pushed the foal out of the way to get at the food. But when there was no more food, I was still standing there observing her. The other kids were petting and trying to feed the foal, which had ambled a few feet away from her.
Peanut took a few steps forward.. she smelled my hand with the empty packet of horsefeed, and tried to bite it when I lowered it. She then levelled her snout right next to my head and studied me with her left eye, and I sensed something was wrong so I stepped back slightly - that was when she suddenly attacked without warning.
Without warning meaning when she raised her head, she did not fold her ears back, her eyes did not show any whites, no curled lip or baring of teeth, no flaring of nostrils. She also did not stomp her foot. The only thing that did not seem right was the way she quietly studied me. About the way she looked at me in the eye - I have seen horses give such looks but only those that have been treated poorly before - I can only describe it as contempt.
1 - The foal is very healthy looking, at least 3-4 months old. It was odd that Peanut would still be so tired, unresponsive and skinny as the foal had not just been born.
2 - If she was being protective of the foal, she would have turned her attention to the children instead, who were all touching the foal. I feel she was protective towards herself. -
Hmm I went last month and from the picture I have, Peanut didn't look under-fed.
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hmm? So she became like that over the course of 3 weeks? o.0 wow. what happened, I wonder.
Well she was very thin and sad looking when she made her appearance that day - her pelvic bones were sticking out very prominently, ribs could be seen.
anyway thanks for ur concern, I'm closing this thread now so this will be my last reply here, but will be glad to reply to any pvt msgs.
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so waht is the action taken ???
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go police then go MP.. sure can one..
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MP not so free lah....everything go to MPOriginally posted by manjieass:go police then go MP.. sure can one.. -
Then MP monthly paycheck who pay ar? No help next time got chance dun vote him/her liaoOriginally posted by pqr:MP not so free lah....everything go to MP
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can we ask police car to send us back then to save $?Originally posted by sohguanh:Then MP monthly paycheck who pay ar? No help next time got chance dun vote him/her liao
their salary we, taxpayer pay mah -
You can try ask and then post in here the verdict if the policemen so kind or notOriginally posted by pqr:can we ask police car to send us back then to save $?
their salary we, taxpayer pay mah -
your logic is since their salary (policeman and MP) is taxpayer $...then...Originally posted by sohguanh:You can try ask and then post in here the verdict if the policemen so kind or not -
For your infomation, if you happen to read the signs there, you will be told that they would not bear any responsibilities for whatever injuries you might have from the horse.Originally posted by ToLetGoOrNot:I feel so sorry for your state. Can't believe the staff and management was non-chalant when you report to them. Singaporean seriously need to improve their attitudes and service standards.
In this case, just let the management know you will write to the New Paper. It shows that it is no longer safe to visit the Gallop Stable. I had brought my young kids to the stable before and always pull my children away from the horses in case they saw the young kids as "food".
An animal's mind is unfathomable, look what happen to Steve Irwin.
Hope you get well soon. It is indeed a truly bad experience. Don't go there again!
Nobody told her to go there or stand in front of the horse.
You can't blame them.
She didn't read the regulations.
Animals are like humans. Don't expect them to follow whatever you say. They have moods and feelings too. 'no longer safe to visit Gallop Stable' that's nonsense. You don't have to go if you don't want to. But you shouldn't say such things.
They never see kids as food. If they ever did, I won't be learning horse riding now.
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I can't blame you for jumping to conclusions since you obviously didn't get to read my original posts.Originally posted by xenarie:For your infomation, if you happen to read the signs there, you will be told that they would not bear any responsibilities for whatever injuries you might have from the horse.
Nobody told her to go there or stand in front of the horse.
You can't blame them.
She didn't read the regulations.
If ur comments are only based on the New Paper article which came out today, well, come and check again a few minutes later. I will re-open this thread and post up my original letter, the newspaper report, and the pictures detailing the SIZE and FEROCITY of the bite, and you can compare them for yourself.
The day that I was there, there was only ONE sign up there which indemnified the company from injuries sustained during RIDING. It specifically stated that there was a form to be filled before being allowed to ride. I searched the area after getting bitten for other signs but found none.
Your argument has alot of holes. If "going there" to feed the ponies was not safe, then why sell the feed? Also, I stood in front of Peanut after she finished the feed for less than 15 seconds before getting bitten. It's not like I stared for minutes on end and waited for her to attack me.
I contacted the reporter right after I got a copy of the newspaper and asked her why she omitted many important details, like how I was surrounded by a bunch of kids (and their family members) trying to feed Peanut.. that I am an intermediate horse rider with experience with mares and their foals.. my observations of Peanut.. and how the management did nothing to help me She apologised and said she couldn't help me - her editor had decided to cut those parts out.
Contrary to what the article says, I was NOT offered first aid AT ALL until I asked for it repeatedly. I have not received a single apology from the Gallop Stables Management to date. The so-called insurer who called me didn't even get my name right, and he admitted he was a 3rd party with "many other assignments". He was not well-aquainted with the details of the case. And he contacted me only after the reporter spoke with the management.
I also find it suspicious that you created your account just to post one half-baked reply here.
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Congrats to TS, this thread has made it into Lian He Wan Bao. They even got your bruised boob on the cover page
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Originally posted by spinsugar:
Look - what you need to be careful about is being goaded into saying things that cannot be proven or are not true. I suspect the editor may have cut out your observations of the horses' condition because that is treading very fine line. Your story is shocking enough already without the need to include your observations.
I can't blame you for jumping to conclusions since you obviously didn't get to read my original posts.
If ur comments are only based on the New Paper article which came out today, well, come and check again a few minutes later. I will re-open this thread and post up my original letter, the newspaper report, and the pictures detailing the SIZE and FEROCITY of the bite, and you can compare them for yourself.
The day that I was there, there was only ONE sign up there which indemnified the company from injuries sustained during RIDING. It specifically stated that there was a form to be filled before being allowed to ride. I searched the area after getting bitten for other signs but found none.
Your argument has alot of holes. If "going there" to feed the ponies was not safe, then why sell the feed? Also, I stood in front of Peanut after she finished the feed for less than 15 seconds before getting bitten. It's not like I stared for minutes on end and waited for her to attack me.
I contacted the reporter right after I got a copy of the newspaper and asked her why she [b]omitted many important details, like how I was surrounded by a bunch of kids (and their family members) trying to feed Peanut.. that I am an intermediate horse rider with experience with mares and their foals.. my observations of Peanut.. and how the management did nothing to help me She apologised and said she couldn't help me - her editor had decided to cut those parts out.
Contrary to what the article says, I was NOT offered first aid AT ALL until I asked for it repeatedly. I have not received a single apology from the Gallop Stables Management to date. The so-called insurer who called me didn't even get my name right, and he admitted he was a 3rd party with "many other assignments". He was not well-aquainted with the details of the case. And he contacted me only after the reporter spoke with the management.
I also find it suspicious that you created your account just to post one half-baked reply here. [/b]
Has the management decided if they are going to compensate you already? Maybe you ought to go look for some lawyer doing pro bono work for some preliminary advice. -
I cannot believe that it is so hard to get a fair hearing as a consumer. Why didn't the management contact me directly to apologize or to try and resolve the matter after the incident despite my repeated requests for callback? They had plenty of time to do that. I have never encountered this in all my years in the customer service industry.Originally posted by scabstermooch:Look - what you need to be careful about is being goaded into saying things that cannot be proven or are not true. I suspect the editor may have cut out your observations of the horses' condition because that is treading very fine line. Your story is shocking enough already without the need to include your observations.
Has the management decided if they are going to compensate you already? Maybe you ought to go look for some lawyer doing pro bono work for some preliminary advice.
I am upset and disappointed because to date, neither my fiance nor I have not received a single apology / expression of regret / phonecall / e-mail directly addressing this incident from the stable management, unlike what Shankar Mani claimed.. and I was not offered aid until I repeatedly asked for it. The only one response acknowledging that this incident did happen came from the 3rd party INSURER, who called the day before the article got published.. He offered to pay my initial GP bill excl tetanus jab and br3ast examination follow ups.
I did not expect my observations of the horse's condition to be published. I stressed to the reporter that my most important point was the handling of the situation. When she asked why I decided to call TNP, I said it was because I was dissatisfied with the insincerity and lack of "appropriate action" on the part of the management, and that people had recommended me to approach them. The reporter later apologized to me, at her own initiative, and explained that her editor dropped that out.
I've been receiving calls and e-mails from concerned friends.. I have tried my best not to inconvenience my dear friends, but I am very glad that at least they believe me and have offered help.
I maintain that all I have said is the truth. My conscience is completely clear. The trauma of going through this is really taking its toll on me, but I cannot pretend that none of what I described ever happened. I do appreciate your concern, very very much. I really hope no one else will have to go thru this sort of thing. I don't know what else to say. -
Good news! I finally got a call from Mrs Shankar after sending her more long e-mail. She gave me a full, detailed explanation of staff actions, improvements made, and an unreserved apology over the phone. She is also sending me a letter of apology.
Closure at last! I am so relieved! -
no $ for medical bills and trauma ??Originally posted by spinsugar:Good news! I finally got a call from Mrs Shankar after sending her more long e-mail. She gave me a full, detailed explanation of staff actions, improvements made, and an unreserved apology over the phone. She is also sending me a letter of apology.
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Any monetary compensation?
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Yes, they're reimbursing my initial medical bill. The follow up medical bills are not so steep, so I won't be chasing them for it.
Mrs Shankar gave me a satisfactory explanation.. the authorities have been coming down hard on them since my article was published, I guess that's punishment enough.
Well once I get that letter I'll post it here. I'm just overwhelmed with relief now, it's been a really tense few weeks for me. I'll sleep very well tonight. -
Follow up? Shouldn't it have healed already? Like this:
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so evilOriginally posted by Otaku Traveler:Follow up? Shouldn't it have healed already? Like this: -
got ur letter yet?Originally posted by spinsugar:Yes, they're reimbursing my initial medical bill. The follow up medical bills are not so steep, so I won't be chasing them for it.
Mrs Shankar gave me a satisfactory explanation.. the authorities have been coming down hard on them since my article was published, I guess that's punishment enough.
Well once I get that letter I'll post it here. I'm just overwhelmed with relief now, it's been a really tense few weeks for me. I'll sleep very well tonight.