What is illegal downloading?
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If you want to be a person who follows law by law...
Dont download MP3
Dont download programmes.
Dont even bother to have internet.
And must as well... DONT BOTHER TO HAVE A COMPUTER!
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Anything you do that makes Police raid your house and 6 others is illegal.
ANyway,, illegal downloading is one that you download and constitutes breaking of the law.
So if downloading a song breaks the copyright of it, you are infringing copyrights, which is by law illegal.
You send thru MSN a song, also an infringement, also illegal. -
hahaha. atleast more safe............Originally posted by Ponders:Anything you do that makes Police raid your house and 6 others is illegal.
ANyway,, illegal downloading is one that you download and constitutes breaking of the law.
So if downloading a song breaks the copyright of it, you are infringing copyrights, which is by law illegal.
You send thru MSN a song, also an infringement, also illegal. -
its still illegal in canada too tho... that is just a small form of compensation for therecord companies and movie studios etcOriginally posted by chenc:For those who don't use P2P like torrent clients, let me tell you why it is so attractive.
You can get anything from OS systems to latest movies to latest version of softwares to games through P2P. Not only music.
Canada's government deals with this P2P problem very well.
In Canada, you can download anything you like. The government charge extra money for storage devices like harddisk or CD-R.
For example, a 2GB iPod will cost roughtly S$10 more in Canada.
The extra money the Gov collected will be given to those records company or software manufactures. -
is emule a p2p client?
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downloading of copyrighted materials that you have no rights with lor.. yes, yes. to protect intellectual property, very good law, juz dat we dun like it.Originally posted by mahawarrior:I'm confused...what exactly constitutes illegal downloading? Is getting files from Limewire illegal? What about sending files over MSN?
And why should downloading stuff be illegal? What kind of stupid law is this?
http://www.riaa.com/issues/piracy/default.asp
here.. try reading this. -
P2P is just another file-transfer program. It is not illegal, only the content is.
The local police are dumb as hell to think that P2P networks are illegal when corporations use them to link offices to share resources and also online stores are leveraging on P2P tech too. -
Getting songs from Music Xchange leh..? Also illegal right..?
How come no police come catch us huh..?
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No la. Local police do not think P2P is illegal.Originally posted by LazerLordz:P2P is just another file-transfer program. It is not illegal, only the content is.
The local police are dumb as hell to think that P2P networks are illegal when corporations use them to link offices to share resources and also online stores are leveraging on P2P tech too.
In Singapore, P2P is also legal, and like you say, its the content that matters -
then for goodness sake, someone slap the local 140th media for writing the article that insinuates that P2P tech is illegal in Singapore.Originally posted by chenc:No la. Local police do not think P2P is illegal.
In Singapore, P2P is also legal, and like you say, its the content that matters
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Actually, if we are talking about civil liabities, IIRC in australia the Kazaa network has recently been found liable for 'authorising infringement of copyright'.Originally posted by LazerLordz:P2P is just another file-transfer program. It is not illegal, only the content is.
The local police are dumb as hell to think that P2P networks are illegal when corporations use them to link offices to share resources and also online stores are leveraging on P2P tech too.
No case in Singapore yet, but I think Sg usually errs on the side of commerce
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As long as it breaks copyright laws, it is illegal downloading, whether or not you pay.Originally posted by mahawarrior:I'm confused...what exactly constitutes illegal downloading? Is getting files from Limewire illegal? What about sending files over MSN?
And why should downloading stuff be illegal? What kind of stupid law is this?
Things under copyright laws include softwares, music and videos.
Getting files from Limewire or any other P2P may or may not be illegal. If something distributed over P2P is under GNU General Public License aka GPL, it is legal. If you have a group of artists friends, who distribute THEIR OWN art work, music, etc, it is legal, unless they specify that it shouldn't go around the world.
Read the full GPL license here
Anything that states EULA or End User License Agreement means that the software is protected by copyright laws. If you download it via P2P, from anywhere where you can get it free, you are violating copyright laws and it will be illegal.
Sharing files over MSN is the same. So long as that piece of work is not under GPL, you break the laws.
Even if you pay for something, but that company is not authorized to distribute it, it is illegal as well. However, you are not to be blamed for it. The company who unauthorizely distributes such work is liable. -
No la. Now almost every piece of software online has an EULA attached to them, which many of us just click through blindly when installing.Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:Anything that states EULA or End User License Agreement means that the software is protected by copyright laws. If you download it via P2P, from anywhere where you can get it free, you are violating copyright laws and it will be illegal.
However, most freewares available online requires users to use P2P system to download the file, since it is cheaper than getting bandwith on the developers' part.
These freewares are legally free to distribute, yet still has a EULA -
A copyright is more than this. It grants EXCLUSIVE rights to the person who created it. Only that person (or that company) can reproduce, publish, distribute, etc.Originally posted by mahawarrior:what about limewire and over msn?
a work is copyrighted so that other people cannot copy it and claim it to be of their own mah...what for prevent people from downloading and enjoying their song?
It simply means that the author (or that company) has control over its commercial exploitation.
By downloading, you have broken the law because the author (or company) did not give you the rights to download it. By uploading it online or sharing it with a P2P, is even worse, since you don't have the rights to do so.
http://www.ipos.gov.sg/main/index.html
Go under About IP, select Copyright and Introduction. -
Every piece of software indeed has an EULA, but if you read properly, some are distributed under GPL. It's stated as the EULA, since most people recognize it. You tell the public GPL, who the heck knows about GPL?Originally posted by chenc:No la. Now almost every piece of software online has an EULA attached to them, which many of us just click through blindly when installing.
However, most freewares available online requires users to use P2P system to download the file, since it is cheaper than getting bandwith on the developers' part.
These freewares are legally free to distribute, yet still has a EULA
However, some softwares do publicly just state that this software is distributed under GPL and not the EULA.
As for freewares under EULA, it's because the owners don't want to grant rights to users to distribute them. You need to contact them for permission to give you the rights to distribute them. -
good point.Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:Every piece of software indeed has an EULA, but if you read properly, some are distributed under GPL. It's stated as the EULA, since most people recognize it. You tell the public GPL, who the heck knows about GPL?
However, some softwares do publicly just state that this software is distributed under GPL and not the EULA.
just for interest, do you read through the EULA when you install a software? -
Yes.Originally posted by davidche:is emule a p2p client? -
They are dumb enough to think so, but it also makes sense. How many per cent of the programs on such networks can actually be shared without breaking laws?Originally posted by LazerLordz:P2P is just another file-transfer program. It is not illegal, only the content is.
The local police are dumb as hell to think that P2P networks are illegal when corporations use them to link offices to share resources and also online stores are leveraging on P2P tech too. -
Most I do read through. Common softwares like antivirus, office just click Next Next Next will do. Crack my PC, reformat and download another piece of similar software will do.Originally posted by chenc:good point.
just for interest, do you read through the EULA when you install a software?
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lol, just wondering if anyone would. they always us that agreement as the strongest evidence in court.Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:Most I do read through. Common softwares like antivirus, office just click Next Next Next will do. Crack my PC, reformat and download another piece of similar software will do. -
waseh..........I veri scared liao sia
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u send file over msn, not called sharing than what is it called, transferring?Originally posted by imDANIEL:u dont share... i mean like. its different from sending a file to person than doing p2p. -
illegal downloading means...to download a file (both copyright or non-copyright protected) through another person's computer without his or her permission.