so much for Law Enforcement
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Today, i was having lunch at an eatery opposite my college, seated in the non-smoking area with a couple of friends. So here comes this man, blue-collar labourer, having completed his meal happily seated in the heart of the non-smoking area. The trouble begins... (sure you know what i'm pointing at now)
*Flick *Stick *Click and SMOKE. Puffs of carbon monoxide combined with an array of pollutive and hazardous gases begin it's journey into his body AS WELL AS everybody else's within that 10m radius of him. Piqued, I walked up to this kind sir and politely had the following conversation.
Me: "Excuse me, this is a non-smoking area, could you please smoke elsewhere? Thank you."
Him: "Why do you come here to talk to me? Go back to your seat there."
Me: "I find it more mannerly to speak to you like this, where I'm not shouting away at my seat."
Him: "Alright. Now go back to your seat and mind your own business."
Me: "But this is the NON-SMOKING AREA (gestures towards the clearly depicted drawing on the pillar)"
Him: "Alright. Now go back to your seat and mind your own business."
Me: "Mind my own business? So what's your call if i go to the police now?"
Him: "Go ahead and call!"
this is NOT an emergency, dialling 999 would result in me getting arrested instead, so my friends recommended visiting the friendly police post just a stone throw away instead. GREAT suggestion don't you think? Upon hearing this, the blue-collared worker took his leave, hastily.
Why bother setting laws which no one's gonna follow? I mean like WHAT are the consequences of breaking such laws? WHERE are the authorities when such things occur? I assure you, he was not leaving after completing his meal. He decided to settle for a nice little smoke in the heart of the non-smoking area before taking his leave. This event really piqued me as i realised that Singapore's legal system, despite being one of the best, has left out the comprehension of such petty crimes. Littering and smoking, how many people have been dealt legal administration for commiting such petty crimes? Yes, corporate crimes such as embezzlement and fraud has been well-monitored and well-documented just as much as homocide, but how about these little ones which affect the public despite the significantly smaller extent. If Singapore wishes to become one of the top nations of the world, the South East Asian Hub, i am definite that our residents must have manners and morals which comply with our nation's status. -
Policemen have no commission to take.
They can bust 99 or 5 crimes a month and they still go home with the same pay. -
Singaporeans are a bunch of bo chup people...
Heck, a lot of illegal things happen right in front of you without you knowing, and nobody reports it.
Peddling drugs, peddling cigarettes, buildings standard not up to par and what nots I've seen. So what? Shoot off a letter to the MP in-charge won't change anything. Call the police won't do anything. -
And STOMP is beginning to lose its kick.
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Originally posted by ditzy:Policemen have no commission to take. They can bust 99 or 5 crimes a month and they still go home with the same pay.
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hmm i thought they did.. my friends got caught jay-walking by an officer who was "camping" at that secluded spot..
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well.. it depends. sometimes, they don't give a fuck about a damn robbery, and would rather arrest a bunch of elderly folks gambling at the void decks. what irony, or rather it's pretty ridiculous.
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PARIS (AFP) - Part one of a French ban on smoking in public places comes into force on Thursday, covering workplaces, schools and hospitals and setting the clock ticking for smoke-filled cafes and bars which have until next January to kick the habit.
Smokers will now have to stub out on the doorstep of shops, sports clubs and entertainment venues that still allowed smoking, while "smokers' corners" in school staff rooms and hospitals will vanish entirely.
Panicked owners of restaurants, bars, nightclubs and casinos -- anticipating a loss of custom in a country where almost one in three adults is a smoker -- have been given a year to prepare for the minor earthquake.
"From February 1, no one should be forced to breathe other people's smoke," Health Minister Xavier Bertrand said last week. "I am sure that in future our children will find it inconceivable that we used to smoke in offices or schools."
Unruly smokers will face fines of 68 euros (88 dollars) for lighting up in the wrong place, while business owners will be fined 135 euros.
Companies can choose to provide hermetically-sealed smoking rooms, with powerful extractor fans, but few are expected to install the costly systems, preferring to let staff puff away on the pavement and offer them advice on how to quit.
The rare exceptions to the new rules are places considered as "substitutes for the home" -- such as hotels or retirement homes.
The government has also said it will be lenient towards hospital patients with mental illnesses, who would not understand a sudden ban, or those already struggling to give up alcohol or drug addiction.
The February 1 ban is largely seen as a test run ahead of next year's complete ban on smoking in restaurants and bars -- a cultural earthquake in a country of coffee- and cigarette-lovers.
But some restaurants have already taken the bull by the horns, as in the southern city of Marseille where a growing number are going completely smoke-free well ahead of the legal deadline.
"We felt the time was right," said Stephane Pandeli, who runs a seafood restaurant, Toinou, in the city centre. He said he had not lost any custom, and even gained some as non-smokers flocked back.
"Eventually, people won't have a choice anyway. They haven't stopped catching the train or plane since they banned smoking," he said.
Around the corner, the Shambala oriental cafe has always been smoke-free. Its owner, Eric Martin, said he has a loyal customer base of "young women who come here when they're pregnant, then with the children", to enjoy the fragrance of tea and incense without the smell of smoke.
The Cafe des Epices, a restaurant perched in Marseille's historic Panier neighbourhood, is booked up a week in advance despite its smoking ban.
"We do a lot of work with spices. Cigarettes affect the taste buds -- people wouldn't get as much out of the chef's work" if people were smoking, said owner Eddy Reignoux.
But he admits the mild climate in Marseille -- as in Italy where a ban on smoking in restaurants has been an overall success -- is a help: smokers can comfortably nip outside with a glass of wine for an open-air cigarette.
Overall, recent figures show the number of French smokers to be rising, especially among the young. Smokers now account for 32 percent of 15- to 75-year-olds, and almost one in two in the 18 to 25 age bracket.
Smoking is thought to kill 66,000 people in France each year, while passive smoking claims some 6,000 lives -- 1,000 of them non-smokers, the rest smokers who also breathe the cigarette smoke of others.
The anti-smoking decree, adopted by the government last November, goes one step further than a 1991 law that banned cigarettes in many places including train stations and airports, but still allowed designated smoking areas.
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misleading title
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ya, i thought so too.Originally posted by Pitot:misleading title -
er cant really blame the police mah. they cant be everywhere all the time.
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Another "for show" Singapore law at work here. Why bother implementing something that we can't allocate the resources to enforce? So that we can say, 'HEY MR TOURIST come visit us, we're squeaky clean and green!!' ?
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Originally posted by blue_crimson_89:
firstly, not everyone behaves like that. just beacause of a few black sheeps and you blame the entire flock.
Why bother setting laws which no one's gonna follow? I mean like WHAT are the consequences of breaking such laws? WHERE are the authorities when such things occur? I assure you, he was not leaving after completing his meal. He decided to settle for a nice little smoke in the heart of the non-smoking area before taking his leave. This event really piqued me as i realised that Singapore's legal system, despite being one of the best, has left out the comprehension of such petty crimes. Littering and smoking, how many people have been dealt legal administration for commiting such petty crimes? Yes, corporate crimes such as embezzlement and fraud has been well-monitored and well-documented just as much as homocide, but how about these little ones which affect the public despite the significantly smaller extent. If Singapore wishes to become one of the top nations of the world, the South East Asian Hub, i am definite that our residents must have manners and morals which comply with our nation's status.
secondly, the police does not handle such issues. you have to go to the relavant authorities for such issues. imagine someone calling the police because the floor is dirty. then proceed to complain that Singapore is a dirty county and no one bothers to clean it up. like that fair? -
so who am i supposed to seek? now it becomes his liberty to smoke in the non-smoking area i suppose? if he is not to blame for such ignorance and defiance, why shift the blame to me for critisising his actions? i am sure i did not state that the entire nation's like this man. when such an act is in front of me, am i expected to just feign ignorance and let him do as he wishes?
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this particular issue is under the jurisdiction of the NEA. even if you call for police, the police will get his particulars, and eventually they will forward the information to NEA, who will then process the fine for this particular person.Originally posted by blue_crimson_89:so who am i supposed to seek? now it becomes his liberty to smoke in the non-smoking area i suppose? if he is not to blame for such ignorance and defiance, why shift the blame to me for critisising his actions? i am sure i did not state that the entire nation's like this man. when such an act is in front of me, am i expected to just feign ignorance and let him do as he wishes?
You can call the Police, don't worry. The police enforce every law under the sun. It's just that sometimes, for issues like this, which aren't under their jurisdiction, they will simply refer to the relevant agency. Just like how some issues are under LTA, HDB, Town Council, etc.
But this one is really NEA's baby leh. Not the fault of the Police. -
well, cannot be helped right? gambling at the void deck is crime in progress leh. if someone kena robbed, the crime already happened.Originally posted by trendz:well.. it depends. sometimes, they don't give a fuck about a damn robbery, and would rather arrest a bunch of elderly folks gambling at the void decks. what irony, or rather it's pretty ridiculous.
for the robbbery case, if it's a 999 call, then fair enough. The police will get all their patrol cars and personnel to roam around the areas to look for the person. but let's be honest: most probably is the person run off to somewhere already. If he never run far or fast enough, then the Police can catch the bugger lah. -
+1Originally posted by Tiggerific:this particular issue is under the jurisdiction of the NEA. even if you call for police, the police will get his particulars, and eventually they will forward the information to NEA, who will then process the fine for this particular person.
You can call the Police, don't worry. The police enforce every law under the sun. It's just that sometimes, for issues like this, which aren't under their jurisdiction, they will simply refer to the relevant agency. Just like how some issues are under LTA, HDB, Town Council, etc.
But this one is really NEA's baby leh. Not the fault of the Police.
dont treat the police like they r not working ..
u urself should to know the relevant agency.. everyone else is just as responsible for our society.. -
want to report also dunno who to report to..hia...
for such incidents, report to the NEA. they're the ones responsible for these cases. police cant be bothered about you, they're not paid to handle trivial matters like this -
Call NEA.. too late already..
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It's not under the direct charge of the SPF. calling them won't help much. It's the baby of the NEA.
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firstly i Think its stupid to draw a box on the floor and call it smoking zone..they dunno that smoke can travel out of the yellow box...?
imagine if u r a non smoker and u sit on a table just next to the yellow box...
stupid man..everytime i see the box i want to laugh
dunno which farker implement it -
probably some scholar?Originally posted by valentinoo:firstly i Think its stupid to draw a box on the floor and call it smoking zone..they dunno that smoke can travel out of the yellow box...?
imagine if u r a non smoker and u sit on a table just next to the yellow box...
stupid man..everytime i see the box i want to laugh
dunno which farker implement it -
Instead of saying sorry, the fella say "mind your own business" Farking bastard, why am I talking to you when its not my business?!
Please continue to take the same stand against such ppl.
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ok mah. u dun go sit near lor. better den let em wander around and be mobile air choker.Originally posted by valentinoo:firstly i Think its stupid to draw a box on the floor and call it smoking zone..they dunno that smoke can travel out of the yellow box...?
imagine if u r a non smoker and u sit on a table just next to the yellow box...
stupid man..everytime i see the box i want to laugh
dunno which farker implement it -
Police can never be trust. They are lazy people.