back to the rafflesian discussion
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No, this post is not to flame Raffles. I like Raffles. You may or may not agree with my point of view, but I personally don't care.
Fine, maybe I do care. A little bit. Not enough to kill people for badmouthing it or disliking it -- many of my (non-Rafflesian) friends don't like Rafflesians in general. Even some RAFFLESIANS don't like Rafflesians in general. However, I'd like to clear up some stuff based on what I hope is an unbiased opinion.
1) It is not being a Rafflesian that makes (some) Rafflesians behave the way they behave
It's their life before secondary school/JC that makes them who they are. If they are pampered by parents and constantly praised (to an exaggerated extent) by their teachers, they most probably will become brats/arrogant people irregardless which school they go to.
Also, they must have high IQ or at least must be able to score well on tests to get into Raffles. This means that they've probably had something to be proud of before they ever became Rafflesians.
2) Singapore society is greatly focused on marks and schools and positions
This tends to make people from "good" schools have a lot of pride in their school. There's nothing wrong with that until they start looking down on others who may not be as academically forward as they are. It doesn't really help how some adults tend to constantly praise those who go to good schools or get good marks. I'm not saying that it's excusable for people to look down on others, but it's not just a Rafflesian thing. If _________ (insert school of your choice) gained as much attention as Raffles does academically and in sports, I believe that people from that school would have the same mentality as some Rafflesians do.
3) Rafflesians' "wrongs" are generally magnified, while their "rights" are overlooked.
People are people. Simply because some may score better on tests doesn't mean that those who are given more priviledges must be perfect. We would hope that they would be able to use their brains, but people make mistakes and we must accept it. Mmm, some "interesting" news about RJC has been coming up. I won't say recently, but I think you guys all know what I'm talking about -ahem, WSM-. However, WSM is ONE person, while there are around 3000 people in Raffles (combining all the schools) [I think]. She said something rather inappropriate, and ... well ... I guess people really focused on what she said. But what about everyone else out there? Don't tell me that people outside of Raffles don't use their blogs to flame others/to post inappropriate pictures/whatever. What about things that Rafflesians have done to actually help society? No one really talks about it when they are considerate or are generous or whatever. People generally like to focus on other's faults.
4) Yes, I admit that some Rafflesians really aren't wonderful people to befriend but that is true for all schools. There are nice people in the world, and there are people who needta keep working on it. It isn't just Rafflesians.
Yeah, basically, that's my view.
Okay, I said that I'd try not to be biased, and really, I'm trying.
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Why the strong focus on them?
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hahaha, read some interesting threads which involve flaming them xDOriginally posted by seow:Why the strong focus on them? -
there is actually a raffles jc forum
http://www.sgforums.com/?action=forum_display&forum_id=16
can u post there instead of wasting the bandwidth here in CC? -
hmm...Originally posted by da-cheese-freakk:hahaha, read some interesting threads which involve flaming them xD
didn't see any Raffles related threads for a while till you brought back the topic again. -
lolOriginally posted by R3SsH|n:there is actually a raffles jc forum
http://www.sgforums.com/?action=forum_display&forum_id=16
can u post there instead of wasting the bandwidth here in CC? -
What's with all these long paras and bombastic english? Can't you just keep it short and sweet? So damn stressful reading long stories after a hard day's work. Geez.
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Damn, it is too early for popcorn ... how about some sandwiches ???
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do that eat and sh.it like everyone?
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Hanor, hanor.Originally posted by ditzy:What's with all these long paras and bombastic english? Can't you just keep it short and sweet? So damn stressful reading long stories after a hard day's work. Geez.
Maybe the TS from NJ so he buay song RJ. -
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Raffles students smells like this flower?
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i say raffles you say fuck
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When one talks of Rafflesians, one has to bring in......
okay, I shall be a nice chap today. -
but why?
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Originally posted by da-cheese-freakk:
Sounds like a fair and balanced view to me. Despite what some Rafflesians think, they are still human and have their faults. We should be more forgiving of other people's faults rather than condemn them outright.
No, this post is not to flame Raffles. I like Raffles. You may or may not agree with my point of view, but I personally don't care.
Fine, maybe I do care. A little bit. Not enough to kill people for badmouthing it or disliking it -- many of my (non-Rafflesian) friends don't like Rafflesians in general. Even some RAFFLESIANS don't like Rafflesians in general. However, I'd like to clear up some stuff based on what I hope is an unbiased opinion.
[b]1) It is not being a Rafflesian that makes (some) Rafflesians behave the way they behave
It's their life before secondary school/JC that makes them who they are. If they are pampered by parents and constantly praised (to an exaggerated extent) by their teachers, they most probably will become brats/arrogant people irregardless which school they go to.
Also, they must have high IQ or at least must be able to score well on tests to get into Raffles. This means that they've probably had something to be proud of before they ever became Rafflesians.
2) Singapore society is greatly focused on marks and schools and positions
This tends to make people from "good" schools have a lot of pride in their school. There's nothing wrong with that until they start looking down on others who may not be as academically forward as they are. It doesn't really help how some adults tend to constantly praise those who go to good schools or get good marks. I'm not saying that it's excusable for people to look down on others, but it's not just a Rafflesian thing. If _________ (insert school of your choice) gained as much attention as Raffles does academically and in sports, I believe that people from that school would have the same mentality as some Rafflesians do.
3) Rafflesians' "wrongs" are generally magnified, while their "rights" are overlooked.
People are people. Simply because some may score better on tests doesn't mean that those who are given more priviledges must be perfect. We would hope that they would be able to use their brains, but people make mistakes and we must accept it. Mmm, some "interesting" news about RJC has been coming up. I won't say recently, but I think you guys all know what I'm talking about -ahem, WSM-. However, WSM is ONE person, while there are around 3000 people in Raffles (combining all the schools) [I think]. She said something rather inappropriate, and ... well ... I guess people really focused on what she said. But what about everyone else out there? Don't tell me that people outside of Raffles don't use their blogs to flame others/to post inappropriate pictures/whatever. What about things that Rafflesians have done to actually help society? No one really talks about it when they are considerate or are generous or whatever. People generally like to focus on other's faults.
4) Yes, I admit that some Rafflesians really aren't wonderful people to befriend but that is true for all schools. There are nice people in the world, and there are people who needta keep working on it. It isn't just Rafflesians.
Yeah, basically, that's my view.
Okay, I said that I'd try not to be biased, and really, I'm trying.
But yeah.[/b] -
wats wrong with raffles?
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What?Originally posted by LazerLordz:When one talks of Rafflesians, one has to bring in......
okay, I shall be a nice chap today.
You want to bring in your idol into this discussion? -
raffles....haha
i die also wont be able to get into dat sch.....coz i am too dumb to get in deere. -
nahh, dont say that about yourself. there are many types of smartness..Originally posted by hiphop2009:raffles....haha
i die also wont be able to get into dat sch.....coz i am too dumb to get in deere. -
smart-aleck u meanOriginally posted by da-cheese-freakk:nahh, dont say that about yourself. there are many types of smartness..
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Originally posted by da-cheese-freakk:
stopped reading right there, you think Raffles teachers praise the students??
[b]1) It is not being a Rafflesian that makes (some) Rafflesians behave the way they behave
It's their life before secondary school/JC that makes them who they are. If they are pampered by parents and constantly praised (to an exaggerated extent) by their teachers, [/b]
and come on man, high achieving children never get praised by their parents, only the average children do, everyone knows that. -
Originally posted by the.owl:
hahaha, actually, yeah, they do. Some of them. Not all, mind you. But I remember there was this teacher who would go on and on and ON about how this girl was good at basketball when it didnt really have anything to do with what we were currently studying xD.
stopped reading right there, [b]you think Raffles teachers praise the students??
and come on man, high achieving children never get praised by their parents, only the average children do, everyone knows that.[/b] -
When Stamford Raffles held the torch,
That cast Prometheum Flame;
We faced the challenge of the day,
To give our school a name.