not true meh? you are not changing all the time meh? if you are changing constantly, how? where, is the "you" that is "you"? when are you, you? the you now, is changing changing... how can you say that the you yesterday (had changed) is the you now and the you tomorrow (would have changed for sure)?Originally posted by starblue:so..... is that like... a poem? a song? a rap? or just some bulls hit??
Erm... we call it the 4th dimension...i.e time...Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:I keep on changing
I grow old, for example
Can I just stay still
and not change my mind?
The thought in my head, "hold it"
"hold it, hold it, hold it..."
Damnit I said, hold it...
If my thoughts keep changing...
My body keeps changing
Can I Stop breathing and stop my heart beating?
Stay still, stop breathing and stop, my stupid heart, stop beating
for an hour or two, so I can be me, unchanging for an hour or two
so who the hell am I?
the me that existed just an hour ago was changing changing changing
the thoughts changed...
damnit, who the hell am I?
hahaha to "get a life" you need to know what "life" is and how to "get it"... hahaha I think that people like me, that constantly asks this type of questions for myself, knows how to "get a life" better than most...Originally posted by Rock^Star:You need a life. Get one.![]()
You miss the whole point... it is not we change or not... but that if we keep on changing, then how can you say that you are you? "you" are constantly changing! The "you" that you pointed out to yourself and others have changed immediately after you pointed it pointed it out. Sure moment to moment the change is not drastic, but from the time you were young, it was very drastic....Originally posted by Xtrider:Erm... we call it the 4th dimension...i.e time...
We always change in the 3 dimension so why not the 4th..![]()
Andrew, what made you wrote the above? Enjoy life and take things as it comes. I am going through bad patch but I keep telling myself to take things as it come. Perhaps, it is a good idea you go visit other planet and come back you are refreshed and . . . ..Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:I keep on changing
I grow old, for example
Can I just stay still
and not change my mind?
The thought in my head, "hold it"
"hold it, hold it, hold it..."
Damnit I said, hold it...
If my thoughts keep changing...
My body keeps changing
Can I Stop breathing and stop my heart beating?
Stay still, stop breathing and stop, my stupid heart, stop beating
for an hour or two, so I can be me, unchanging for an hour or two
so who the hell am I?
the me that existed just an hour ago was changing changing changing
the thoughts changed...
damnit, who the hell am I?
hahaha, I don't do illusions and delusions... they are the curse of mankind....Originally posted by rane:Andrew, what made you wrote the above? Enjoy life and take things as it comes. I am going through bad patch but I keep telling myself to take things as it come. Perhaps, it is a good idea you go visit other planet and come back you are refreshed and . . . ..![]()
Sure, but AndrewPKYap is whom?Originally posted by pervertboi:YOU are AndrewPKYap![]()
u got to stop drinking those kerosene so early eveningOriginally posted by AndrewPKYap:Sure, but AndrewPKYap is whom?
1+1=2
but if the 1s in 1+1 is changing all the time, 2 is not the same 2!
"you"=AndrewPKYap
but if "you" is changing all the time, AndrewPKYap is changing all the time...
sure, I am "me", for now... but I will for sure not be the "me", for now.
for how long?Originally posted by club18:so very profound..![]()
let me answer it for u.
u are who u r.
u are who u wan to be.
u are who ppl look at u to be.
u are u.
get it?![]()
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who are you talking to? me? hey, I don't exists.Originally posted by pervertboi:u got to stop drinking those kerosene so early evening![]()
Nono...u missed my pointOriginally posted by AndrewPKYap:You miss the whole point... it is not we change or not... but that if we keep on changing, then how can you say that you are you? "you" are constantly changing! The "you" that you pointed out to yourself and others have changed immediately after you pointed it pointed it out. Sure moment to moment the change is not drastic, but from the time you were young, it was very drastic....
so the best that anyone can say to another and himself is: "This is me, for now."
lol.. my point is,Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:for how long?
are u sure that the U that you see yourself is the u that others see you? are you sure that the u you want to be is u in reality? are you sure that the u people see is the same u?
But you take it that you are the same u and others that it that they are looking at the same u... you are not U! hahahaha![]()
hahaha "change in time" means what? Change exists and we use "time" to measure the change... time does not exists, so how can there be a "change in time"? There was a "change in me", if you like nut there could never be a "change in time"Originally posted by Xtrider:Nono...u missed my point
Im trying to say that also..juz in a more scientific way...the 'you' 1 second ago is not the same 'you' because of the change in time.
for example, when u move an inch as compared to moving a kilometre can be compared as the time when u were a baby and now and a second ago and now...
ok analogy not tt great but yea i hope u get the pt...![]()
but if the me that I think is me, keeps changing, then what is the point of thinking about the "me" that is "me"? the "me" that is "me" does not exists the minute I decided that "me" is like this or like that... hahaha the "me" that I think I am, does not exists because the "me" that I think is "me" , hell, keeps on changing...Originally posted by club18:lol.. my point is,
u are who u think u are..
u are who others think u are..
u are u.
theres so many Us.
u are different to every1.
u are different to different friends, parents, etc..
ppl perceive u are who they feel u are..
u perceive urself to be who u think u are.
U are you.![]()
well, u are the u u think u are at that point of timeOriginally posted by AndrewPKYap:but if the me that I think is me, keeps changing, then what is the point of thinking about the "me" that is "me"? the "me" that is "me" does not exists the minute I decided that "me" is like this or like that... hahaha the "me" that I think I am, does not exists because the "me" that I think is "me" , hell, keeps on changing...![]()
What is the point of that when you finally decide that "at that point of time" you are "U"... hey, everybody see, I am me... and the moment you say that, "U" are no longer "U"... so is the "U" at the moment you declared to be "U", you? Since you know, certainly, for sure, know that it is not going to be you.... the next moment. so where are you?Originally posted by club18:well, u are the u u think u are at that point of time
even if u are changing.
u exist, as u at that point of time..
that very moment, u are u.
u are confusing me..![]()
who are you talking to? because the one that you talked to a minute ago is not the one you will be talking to a minute later... and the one that you are talking to now, will not even exist because he has changed!Originally posted by allentyb:you should stop smoking weed![]()