Recruitment Consultant ? Anyone in this line?
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Anyone in this line? For a person with zero sales experience, is it better to start with small local co (no training wor!) or larger set up e.g. RW / MP?
And for pay scheme which is best for a new starter? Comm + Basic / Comm + Basic but Basic reduces if target not met / Comm / just basic (got such co?) -
well , just in case u do not know , recruitment consultants are also doing sales indirectly. Whatever jobs they are offering you are jobs that they have. They are not exactly matching you to the kind of jobs you like or jobs you are suitable for.
Anyway for sales job requiring basic , you need to hit a min quota before you qualify for commission. The higher ya basic , the higher your quota..u shld noe -
commission quite low rite, that's what i heard
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not really...they basically earn most from commision..Originally posted by de_middle:commission quite low rite, that's what i heard
i have a fren with manpower, one of the top recruitment firm...
basic pay 2.5k..should be higher this yr...
commision can be one months pay of a successful deal with client (that means the company found the right candidate)
its not unusual to earn around 10 to 20k a month ...but as a newbie quite stress coz can kena fired if dun perform....minimum must match one perfect candidate for the employer(client) i think
its not an easy job. -
Originally posted by curryman:not really...they basically earn most from commision..
i have a fren with manpower, one of the top recruitment firm...
basic pay 2.5k..should be higher this yr...
commision can be one months pay of a successful deal with client (that means the company found the right candidate)
its not unusual to earn around 10 to 20k a month ...but as a newbie quite stress coz can kena fired if dun perform....minimum must match one perfect candidate for the employer(client) i think
its not an easy job.
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omg! $10k! a month.....that is why I want to take this risk....coz is like my current job...at a 3-4% increment rate....hmm will take me a %#$ 30 yrs to earn $10k a month! Pissed.
Okay....so the next Qn is to ask
1) Would you join larger recruitment Co (E.g. RW / MP / Hudson) or those small small ones as a start?
U see,...big ones = team work (Also stress) + super high targets -
1st of all, I applaud your courage to step into sales. Many people do not even dare think about it, and let alone quit what they are doing.Originally posted by sheri:omg! $10k! a month.....that is why I want to take this risk....coz is like my current job...at a 3-4% increment rate....hmm will take me a %#$ 30 yrs to earn $10k a month! Pissed.
Okay....so the next Qn is to ask
1) Would you join larger recruitment Co (E.g. RW / MP / Hudson) or those small small ones as a start?
U see,...big ones = team work (Also stress) + super high targets
sales got basic + com, and pure com, pure basic (rare).
For beginner with zero experience and zero savings, better to get basic + com.
Previous post I read basic very low, or must hit certain quota before you'll get com.... those are just different permulations. It would be best to discuss with the company you're interested to work with.
And Sheri, you are right. In fact you are quite fortunate. 3-4% increment rate (not taking into account bonus) is actually relatively good increment liaozzz.
Generally, if you wanna earn more money, either start a business or do well in trading. For the rest of us, it will be going into sales.
My ex-collegue in a local back earns avg $12K monthly. She's doing credit facilities sales by calling. Her basic is $2.6K.
Another ex-ex-collegue in a foreign back, doing credit card sales, is getting an average of $6-7K. They're both in their mid-twenties.
However I too have a friend in recruit express, (help people find job) who is only getting $3k monthly. Her basic is $1.8K
To comment on your question on whether a big or small company, I would say depends on the company about how they value their employees. Do they send you for external courses or trainings? What is the promotional aspects like. Generally, a larger company will have better funding for this type of things.
Big ones dun necessary have super high targets. My friend in Siemens only need to do 2 sales a year. (They sell industry motors, a few millions for 1).
As for stress due to targets, I can only say a company wun set a target such that their people would not be able to hit it. If people are hitting their targets consistantly and only one is not, then the problem lies with that person.
As for stress due to teamwork, I can only say stress exists whether in teamwork or as an individual. I'm sure you understand.
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Your friend at recruit express earning $3k...really is not that bad ah....some degree holders work 24/7 also earn around that amt. But maybe is invest in their prospects bah.........anyways thanks for the insights.
But just wondering if recruitment agencies are open like 6 days or wat? Or 5.5 days? as in the working hours (Excluding OT) -
The problem, is getting accepted into the recruitment agency.
Once you are in, it does not matter if its a small or big agency.
a big agency merely means you will have a wider client base, but you still need to try to maintain that base and keep satisfying your customers.
Big agency also means a bigger wider choices of candidates you can use to satisfy your customer.
With better budgets for road shows, co-ordinating events and liasing, controlling huge numbers of people.
Small agencies has the benefit of being able to focus on some customers and keeping them happy. You might have the opportunity to go overseas to recruit as well as to train those people that you recruit for your customers.
Individual agencies has individual paying structure. And until you are established with consistent contacts/ customers. You are safest to acquire a job that pays a basic and then commissions when you starts to close cases. -
My friend's working as one. Its usually the company who approaches them, instead of those looking for job approaching them..
If have no experience, they will try to pair you up with the companies which are willing to accept u until trial period.. -
Thanks for the insights! Actually i dun think its hard getting into a RC ...coz at most they sack u if u cannot perform.
But my concern is staying put there, until u learn the ropes.
Not sure wat it takes to survive long enuff to learn the ropes -
if u cannot make it, u pay 1 month salary. not sack u so simple.Originally posted by sheri:Thanks for the insights! Actually i dun think its hard getting into a RC ...coz at most they sack u if u cannot perform.
But my concern is staying put there, until u learn the ropes.
Not sure wat it takes to survive long enuff to learn the ropes -
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sounds like insurance agency to meOriginally posted by Steph84:if u cannot make it, u pay 1 month salary. not sack u so simple. -
I am still interested in being a RC...but dunno which type of set up is best.
If Demand= employers
Supply = candidates
1) Only have to supply. Coz Company has a standing contract with the client
2) Executive search Co, where the problem is still supply. Long term , need to provide the demand.Can fall back on brand name.
3) Small set up, first focus is on demand than next problem is supply. -
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want to start doing sales means u need a car. if no car how?
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No need car bah...ya most sales job need car. But I heard of property agents who do very well with no car...
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property agents no car common wat. imagine u're a sales person for a large industry. then u go meet ur client by bus... wl paiseh u know!Originally posted by sheri:No need car bah...ya most sales job need car. But I heard of property agents who do very well with no car...
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I have been offered a role as a recruiter. However as this is a relatively smaller set up, the assessment is done monthly, starting from the first month. ie If I cannot earn back my basic, there goes my job. I wonder if its industry practice? Coz usually assessments are done on a quarterly basis.
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