Do Plants have the ability to sense pain or think
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or it basically just because it is not an animal
it cant think or so not able to sense pain?
anyone one have any idea ?
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i have absolutely no idea. but i think not... or maybe yea....or not....yea!....not!...yea!!!!!!....NOT!!!...YYYEAAA!
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if humans can be vegetables, vegetables can be human.
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haha awt if all the plants in this world revolt 1 day n stop photosynthesis? commit suicide
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maybe they can think, but they can't feel physically...maybe a veg human can think, but they cant feel physically, so maybe a veg can feel mentally but not physically
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well, even if they have, they do not have the ability to communicate it.
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it's time for plants to evolve like the lotr the ent race
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a study carried out some time ago shed some light on the whole plants-with-feelings issue...
Tests were carried out on a group of yew trees. They introduced a type of parasite on tree 1 and watched as they slowly killed the tree. Then the same parasites were introduced to the other trees which were planted alongside tree 1. The other trees however managed to produce a sort of anti-parasite pheremone thingy (like bug repellent)and were immune to the parasites. This shows that tree 1 might have scent out a sort of distress signal 2 the others to warn of the threat and 'take the necessary precautions.'
sounds weird and funny rite? i think plants do have feelings, like any other living thing does... -
do u have the ability to sense pain or think?
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ya i agree . simple example: the forget me not....when u touch them they close up....feeling lorOriginally posted by zannstar:a study carried out some time ago shed some light on the whole plants-with-feelings issue...
Tests were carried out on a group of yew trees. They introduced a type of parasite on tree 1 and watched as they slowly killed the tree. Then the same parasites were introduced to the other trees which were planted alongside tree 1. The other trees however managed to produce a sort of anti-parasite pheremone thingy (like bug repellent)and were immune to the parasites. This shows that tree 1 might have scent out a sort of distress signal 2 the others to warn of the threat and 'take the necessary precautions.'
sounds weird and funny rite? i think plants do have feelings, like any other living thing does... -
Ever heard tt if u play nice songs for your plant in a daily basics, it will bloom pretty and lively flower.. anyone try b4?
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techno how?Originally posted by Normal^Guy:Ever heard tt if u play nice songs for your plant in a daily basics, it will bloom pretty and lively flower.. anyone try b4? -
Originally posted by sEphIrOth:if humans can be vegetables, vegetables can be human. Thats a good one!
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Err..techno hor..For u to find out for mi to know..
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Mimosa - once u touch it, it will close up the leaves.
another plant knows how to let out a fragrance to attract insects that will end up as its preys. -
No plants cant think because they have no brains.
And they cant sense pain because they have no nerves and even if they did they don't have a brain to tell them it's pain they're feeling.
*sigh*...what happened to all the intelligent forumites? -
I dont' think so but I do know
that if we do not stop destroying
them, we will lose our beauty
world in the coming ages. -
Plants ???
Unless they can grow like my DiDi and have Veins.. maybe I would like to beliebve they can feel pain. -
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i want some PV then,Originally posted by sEphIrOth:if humans can be vegetables, vegetables can be human.
Take
AV=adult video,
PV would be plants video
i wana see them make out without any insects helping. -
Pain (noun)
An unpleasant sensation occurring in varying degrees of severity as a consequence of injury, disease, or emotional disorder.
Basically pain is just a word to describe the bunch of electric signals that the nerve endings send to the human brain when it detects or senses something it deems is "bad" for the human system.
In this case, plants can be said to feel no "pain" - at least not in the human context of it since they do not have a central "brain" - which also means they are not able to "think" in the human context.
remember that the words pain and think are formed by humans, because otherwise we have no other way to describe these two functions of the human body.
However, although plants cannot "think" or feel "pain", it can definitely "sense" it - although there might be no english word to describe it proper.
A lot of pple have mentioned the touch me not plant above.
Human - touch boiling kettle of water, high temperature touches skin - nerve endings transfer "pain" signal to brain, brain instructs hand and finger to move away from the boiling pot of kettle
Plant (touch me not) - foreign object touches leaves, immediate defence - close leaves to avoid getting hurt <<< pain? not really. but kind of. yet I can't think of a proper word to describe it.
ok i'm lazy but u get my point. they are able to "think" as well just not the way humans do.
in short, this is another discussion which boils down to what we understand base on language.
Just look at human to human examples. Eskimos at the poles have so many different words in their language to refer to snow. English has only one - snow. Any other different snow has to be prefixed with an adjective. Thick snow? Thin snow? white snow? grey snow? There's no way you're going to introduce all the different types of snow to someone in english without showing that person the different types itself. Why? because the people who invented English don't live at the poles.
aiya i hope u all understand wad i talking la.
References:
pain. (n.d.). The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition. Retrieved August 05, 2007, from Dictionary.com website: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/pain -
You have done some research and the explanation is logical. Put it simply - all living things are able to sense and response depending on what sense organs they have. The fact that they can response to external stimuli - sunlight and water, is an indication that plant do have sense organs. Just because you can't sense the way plants sense doesn't mean they cannot 'feel'. Have you observed ants when they meet each other? They seemed to talk to one another but we can't hear nor understand!Originally posted by Vigelic:Pain (noun)
An unpleasant sensation occurring in varying degrees of severity as a consequence of injury, disease, or emotional disorder.
Basically pain is just a word to describe the bunch of electric signals that the nerve endings send to the human brain when it detects or senses something it deems is "bad" for the human system.
In this case, plants can be said to feel no "pain" - at least not in the human context of it since they do not have a central "brain" - which also means they are not able to "think" in the human context.
remember that the words pain and think are formed by humans, because otherwise we have no other way to describe these two functions of the human body.
However, although plants cannot "think" or feel "pain", it can definitely "sense" it - although there might be no english word to describe it proper.
A lot of pple have mentioned the touch me not plant above.
As for thinking part, it is still uncertain. The general consensus is that a brain is necessary for thinking but I disagree. Humans have brain but quite a number cannot think!
I think this question arises because of vegetarianism. Vegetarians abstain from meat because killing is involved, not because of feeling of pain by the animals. But to say that plants have no feeling is not correct.
So, what is the position of vegetarians on this? -
what bullOriginally posted by TheGoodEarth:You have done some research and the explanation is logical. Put it simply - all living things are able to sense and response depending on what sense organs they have. The fact that they can response to external stimuli - sunlight and water, is an indication that plant do have sense organs. Just because you can't sense the way plants sense doesn't mean they cannot 'feel'. Have you observed ants when they meet each other? They seemed to talk to one another but we can't hear nor understand!
As for thinking part, it is still uncertain. The general consensus is that a brain is necessary for thinking but I disagree. Humans have brain but quite a number cannot think!
I think this question arises because of vegetarianism. Vegetarians abstain from meat because killing is involved, not because of feeling of pain by the animals. But to say that plants have no feeling is not correct.
So, what is the position of vegetarians on this?
i also know how to do research like this loh
he just copying defination from dictionary.com....
and add in a few own comments
like this i also do alot research
PLANT
–noun
1. any member of the kingdom Plantae, comprising multicellular organisms that typically produce their own food from inorganic matter by the process of photosynthesis and that have more or less rigid cell walls containing cellulose, including vascular plants, mosses, liverworts, and hornworts: some classification schemes may include fungi, algae, bacteria, blue-green algae, and certain single-celled eukaryotes that have plantlike qualities, as rigid cell walls or photosynthesis.
2. an herb or other small vegetable growth, in contrast with a tree or a shrub.
3. a seedling or a growing slip, esp. one ready for transplanting.
4. the equipment, including the fixtures, machinery, tools, etc., and often the buildings, necessary to carry on any industrial business: a manufacturing plant.
5. the complete equipment or apparatus for a particular mechanical process or operation: the heating plant for a home.
6. the buildings, equipment, etc., of an institution: the sprawling plant of the university.
7. Slang. something intended to trap, decoy, or lure, as criminals.
8. Slang. a scheme to trap, trick, swindle, or defraud.
9. a person, placed in an audience, whose rehearsed or prepared reactions, comments, etc., appear spontaneous to the rest of the audience.
10. a person placed secretly in a group or organization, as by a foreign government, to obtain internal or secret information, stir up discontent, etc.
11. Theater. a line of dialogue, or a character, action, etc., introducing an idea or theme that will be further developed at a later point in the play: Afterward we remembered the suicide plant in the second act.
–verb (used with object)
12. to put or set in the ground for growth, as seeds, young trees, etc.
13. to furnish or stock (land) with plants: to plant a section with corn.
14. to establish or implant (ideas, principles, doctrines, etc.): to plant a love for learning in growing children.
15. to introduce (a breed of animals) into a country.
16. to deposit (young fish, or spawn) in a river, lake, etc.
17. to bed (oysters).
18. to insert or set firmly in or on the ground or some other body or surface: to plant posts along a road.
19. Theater. to insert or place (an idea, person, or thing) in a play.
20. to place; put.
21. to place with great force, firmness, or determination: He planted himself in the doorway as if daring us to try to enter. He planted a big kiss on his son's cheek.
22. to station; post: to plant a police officer on every corner.
23. to locate; situate: Branch stores are planted all over.
24. to establish (a colony, city, etc.); found.
25. to settle (persons), as in a colony.
26. to say or place (something) in order to obtain a desired result, esp. one that will seem spontaneous: The police planted the story in the newspaper in order to trap the thief.
27. Carpentry. to nail, glue, or otherwise attach (a molding or the like) to a surface.
28. to place (a person) secretly in a group to function as a spy or to promote discord.
29. Slang. to hide or conceal, as stolen goods.
[Origin: bef. 900; (n.) ME plaunte; in part continuing OE plante sapling, young plant (< L planta); in part (< OF plante) < L planta a shoot, sprig, scion (for planting), plant; (v.) ME plaunten; in part continuing OE plantian (< L plantāre); in part (< OF planter) < L plantāre to plant]
O.E. plante "young tree or shrub, herb newly planted," from L. planta "sprout, shoot, cutting," perhaps from *plantare "to drive in with the feet, push into the ground with the feet," from planta "sole of the foot," from nasalized form of PIE *plat- "flat" (see place (n.)). Ger. Pflanze, Ir. cland, Welsh plant are from Latin. Broader sense of "any vegetable life" is first recorded 1551. The verb, "put in the ground to grow," is O.E. plantian, from L. plantare, from planta. Most extended usages are from the verbal sense. Sense of a building "planted" or begun for an industrial process is first attested 1789. Slang meaning "a spy" is first recorded 1812. Planter "proprietor of a cultivated estate in W.Indies or southern colonies of N.America" is attested from 1647; hence planter's punch (1924).
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text o' wall ftw!Originally posted by rathcycle:what bull
i also know how to do research like this loh
he just copying defination from dictionary.com....
and add in a few own comments
like this i also do alot research
PLANT
–noun
1. any member of the kingdom Plantae, comprising multicellular organisms that typically produce their own food from inorganic matter by the process of photosynthesis and that have more or less rigid cell walls containing cellulose, including vascular plants, mosses, liverworts, and hornworts: some classification schemes may include fungi, algae, bacteria, blue-green algae, and certain single-celled eukaryotes that have plantlike qualities, as rigid cell walls or photosynthesis.
2. an herb or other small vegetable growth, in contrast with a tree or a shrub.
3. a seedling or a growing slip, esp. one ready for transplanting.
4. the equipment, including the fixtures, machinery, tools, etc., and often the buildings, necessary to carry on any industrial business: a manufacturing plant.
5. the complete equipment or apparatus for a particular mechanical process or operation: the heating plant for a home.
6. the buildings, equipment, etc., of an institution: the sprawling plant of the university.
7. Slang. something intended to trap, decoy, or lure, as criminals.
8. Slang. a scheme to trap, trick, swindle, or defraud.
9. a person, placed in an audience, whose rehearsed or prepared reactions, comments, etc., appear spontaneous to the rest of the audience.
10. a person placed secretly in a group or organization, as by a foreign government, to obtain internal or secret information, stir up discontent, etc.
11. Theater. a line of dialogue, or a character, action, etc., introducing an idea or theme that will be further developed at a later point in the play: Afterward we remembered the suicide plant in the second act.
–verb (used with object)
12. to put or set in the ground for growth, as seeds, young trees, etc.
13. to furnish or stock (land) with plants: to plant a section with corn.
14. to establish or implant (ideas, principles, doctrines, etc.): to plant a love for learning in growing children.
15. to introduce (a breed of animals) into a country.
16. to deposit (young fish, or spawn) in a river, lake, etc.
17. to bed (oysters).
18. to insert or set firmly in or on the ground or some other body or surface: to plant posts along a road.
19. Theater. to insert or place (an idea, person, or thing) in a play.
20. to place; put.
21. to place with great force, firmness, or determination: He planted himself in the doorway as if daring us to try to enter. He planted a big kiss on his son's cheek.
22. to station; post: to plant a police officer on every corner.
23. to locate; situate: Branch stores are planted all over.
24. to establish (a colony, city, etc.); found.
25. to settle (persons), as in a colony.
26. to say or place (something) in order to obtain a desired result, esp. one that will seem spontaneous: The police planted the story in the newspaper in order to trap the thief.
27. Carpentry. to nail, glue, or otherwise attach (a molding or the like) to a surface.
28. to place (a person) secretly in a group to function as a spy or to promote discord.
29. Slang. to hide or conceal, as stolen goods.
[Origin: bef. 900; (n.) ME plaunte; in part continuing OE plante sapling, young plant (< L planta); in part (< OF plante) < L planta a shoot, sprig, scion (for planting), plant; (v.) ME plaunten; in part continuing OE plantian (< L plantāre); in part (< OF planter) < L plantāre to plant]
O.E. plante "young tree or shrub, herb newly planted," from L. planta "sprout, shoot, cutting," perhaps from *plantare "to drive in with the feet, push into the ground with the feet," from planta "sole of the foot," from nasalized form of PIE *plat- "flat" (see place (n.)). Ger. Pflanze, Ir. cland, Welsh plant are from Latin. Broader sense of "any vegetable life" is first recorded 1551. The verb, "put in the ground to grow," is O.E. plantian, from L. plantare, from planta. Most extended usages are from the verbal sense. Sense of a building "planted" or begun for an industrial process is first attested 1789. Slang meaning "a spy" is first recorded 1812. Planter "proprietor of a cultivated estate in W.Indies or southern colonies of N.America" is attested from 1647; hence planter's punch (1924).
now,
praise me ! -
Originally posted by rathcycle:what bull
i also know how to do research like this loh
he just copying defination from dictionary.com....
and add in a few own comments
like this i also do alot research
PLANT
–noun
1. any member of the kingdom Plantae, comprising multicellular organisms that typically produce their own food from inorganic matter by the process of photosynthesis and that have more or less rigid cell walls containing cellulose, including vascular plants, mosses, liverworts, and hornworts: some classification schemes may include fungi, algae, bacteria, blue-green algae, and certain single-celled eukaryotes that have plantlike qualities, as rigid cell walls or photosynthesis.
2. an herb or other small vegetable growth, in contrast with a tree or a shrub.
3. a seedling or a growing slip, esp. one ready for transplanting.
4. the equipment, including the fixtures, machinery, tools, etc., and often the buildings, necessary to carry on any industrial business: a manufacturing plant.
5. the complete equipment or apparatus for a particular mechanical process or operation: the heating plant for a home.
6. the buildings, equipment, etc., of an institution: the sprawling plant of the university.
7. Slang. something intended to trap, decoy, or lure, as criminals.
8. Slang. a scheme to trap, trick, swindle, or defraud.
9. a person, placed in an audience, whose rehearsed or prepared reactions, comments, etc., appear spontaneous to the rest of the audience.
10. a person placed secretly in a group or organization, as by a foreign government, to obtain internal or secret information, stir up discontent, etc.
11. Theater. a line of dialogue, or a character, action, etc., introducing an idea or theme that will be further developed at a later point in the play: Afterward we remembered the suicide plant in the second act.
–verb (used with object)
12. to put or set in the ground for growth, as seeds, young trees, etc.
13. to furnish or stock (land) with plants: to plant a section with corn.
14. to establish or implant (ideas, principles, doctrines, etc.): to plant a love for learning in growing children.
15. to introduce (a breed of animals) into a country.
16. to deposit (young fish, or spawn) in a river, lake, etc.
17. to bed (oysters).
18. to insert or set firmly in or on the ground or some other body or surface: to plant posts along a road.
19. Theater. to insert or place (an idea, person, or thing) in a play.
20. to place; put.
21. to place with great force, firmness, or determination: He planted himself in the doorway as if daring us to try to enter. He planted a big kiss on his son's cheek.
22. to station; post: to plant a police officer on every corner.
23. to locate; situate: Branch stores are planted all over.
24. to establish (a colony, city, etc.); found.
25. to settle (persons), as in a colony.
26. to say or place (something) in order to obtain a desired result, esp. one that will seem spontaneous: The police planted the story in the newspaper in order to trap the thief.
27. Carpentry. to nail, glue, or otherwise attach (a molding or the like) to a surface.
28. to place (a person) secretly in a group to function as a spy or to promote discord.
29. Slang. to hide or conceal, as stolen goods.
[Origin: bef. 900; (n.) ME plaunte; in part continuing OE plante sapling, young plant (< L planta); in part (< OF plante) < L planta a shoot, sprig, scion (for planting), plant; (v.) ME plaunten; in part continuing OE plantian (< L plantāre); in part (< OF planter) < L plantāre to plant]
O.E. plante "young tree or shrub, herb newly planted," from L. planta "sprout, shoot, cutting," perhaps from *plantare "to drive in with the feet, push into the ground with the feet," from planta "sole of the foot," from nasalized form of PIE *plat- "flat" (see place (n.)). Ger. Pflanze, Ir. cland, Welsh plant are from Latin. Broader sense of "any vegetable life" is first recorded 1551. The verb, "put in the ground to grow," is O.E. plantian, from L. plantare, from planta. Most extended usages are from the verbal sense. Sense of a building "planted" or begun for an industrial process is first attested 1789. Slang meaning "a spy" is first recorded 1812. Planter "proprietor of a cultivated estate in W.Indies or southern colonies of N.America" is attested from 1647; hence planter's punch (1924).
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praise me !
at least he bothered to give some evaluation.
u din.