global warming
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there is this topic about smoking. many are pointing that the cause of global warming is vehicles and not smoking.
i understand that and i was just wondering if live earth has successfully conveyed its agenda to the population.
do you think it has or not, in sg?
my opinion is that, unless the govt begins to place a high priority on it, the situation will not get better.
reason is the richs will not be bothered about such things. because they can afford to live in air conditioned homes. so the heat will probably not affect them.
and in other developing countries, the vehicles should be old and not fuel efficient. but what can they do? they can't afford better stuff unless they improve which requires them to take this path first.
is it too shallow? pardon if i am. just want to hear opinions.
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The vehicle part will actually just "fix itself" in a few years i guess since the industry itself is self-regulating.. except maybe for china so for the purpose of this discussion i'm not going to involve china regulations or china cars.
regardless, manufacturers like toyota and bmw and mercedes etc. have been putting in a lot of effort into researching and developing "green vehicles" for reasons like global warming and that oil is not unlimited.. they also do this because of laws in places like california.. nissan for example had to re-make their diesel engines to meet diesel emissions criteria for california and new nissan cars sold in america and japan will have the new engine that is cleaner than their previous diesel engine..
the singapore government has also taken steps like green car rebates, diesel emission laws (thats why now all the taxis new new one all sort of brands one cos the old taxis dont meet the new laws) etc -
not that i didn't see the actions taken. but i find it slow with the rate our earth is heating up.
and i think govts actually have enough funds to do more.
i remember there was something regarding the buildings in sg to be made more environmental friendly, and that's gonna take quite long i think. -
I don't think Live Earth really did help much. The event itself to some was more significant compared to the message that it was supposed to convey.
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because america and china dont want to adhere to the kyoto protocol.Originally posted by alwaysdisturbed:not that i didn't see the actions taken. but i find it slow with the rate our earth is heating up.
and i think govts actually have enough funds to do more.
i remember there was something regarding the buildings in sg to be made more environmental friendly, and that's gonna take quite long i think.
oh and because american presidents always dont wanna do more than the term they are serving.. for example they are elected president for a term of 6 years.. then they are given a plan to improve earth's climate but it would take 12 years.. do they think they'd bother? No.
In Singapore, I'm sure they have funds to do it.. but the average singaporean is more concerned about other issues like education, work, money, etc. so who do u think is going to care so much abt global warming?
of course pple care to a certain extent so the government just has to do something.. but not go all out to combat it.. -
must care about global warming.....pple says we can live longer nowOriginally posted by Vigelic:because america and china dont want to adhere to the kyoto protocol.
oh and because american presidents always dont wanna do more than the term they are serving.. for example they are elected president for a term of 6 years.. then they are given a plan to improve earth's climate but it would take 12 years.. do they think they'd bother? No.
In Singapore, I'm sure they have funds to do it.. but the average singaporean is more concerned about other issues like education, work, money, etc. so who do u think is going to care so much abt global warming?
of course pple care to a certain extent so the government just has to do something.. but not go all out to combat it..
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But i did enjoy the concert though =P they should have more of those mini advertisements regarding global warming
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FLICK OFF!
stop the global meltdown!
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Singapore is too small to cause an impact on both global warming and trying to save earth.
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where warm?
recently keep raining deh............. -
This is precisely what is delaying our efforts - finger pointing.
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since we are at global warming, what would you all do if you haf a technology that can draw energy completely independent of fossil fuel and that the technology does not generate heat when the engine is moving.
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But no matter how much our govt. stress about being green and promoting things that are greener, they are still a money-faced bunch of politicians..
Look at diesel cars..they are so much more fuel-efficient than petrol equivalents and even though diesel engines of the past have been more pollutive than a petrol engine, but now with the high-tech particulate filters, it's even cleaner than a petrol engine..
But why DON'T we see any Euro4/5 diesel saloon cars in Singapore?! Because of our money-faced politicians..petrol's tax is higher than diesel's tax..so they rather earn more money from tax and ban people from buying diesel saloon cars than making SG greener..
SG govt's reason for not selling diesel cars? They say it's still not as clean as petrol engine even though it's more fuel-efficient..BULLSH!T..Euro4/5 diesel engines are much cleaner than Euro4/5 petrol engines.. -
lol...Originally posted by alwaysdisturbed:reason is the richs will not be bothered about such things. because they can afford to live in air conditioned homes. so the heat will probably not affect them.
if it is the heat tat affect, it wont be a topic for world leaders to discuss...
Never watch b4 "the day after tomolo" ,hah??
Global warming may cause a climate change that may probably wipe out human race
scientist stilll cant confirm -
but then, if dont have this concert, people also can't get the message? maybe they wanted to spark controversies, make ppl talk about it to get more attention?Originally posted by polarsnake:I don't think Live Earth really did help much. The event itself to some was more significant compared to the message that it was supposed to convey. -
The idea behind Live Earth is good I would say..but this is the kind of good ideas that are never going to work out..Originally posted by zanemiller:but then, if dont have this concert, people also can't get the message? maybe they wanted to spark controversies, make ppl talk about it to get more attention?
Inviting well-known artists to perform at Live Earth Concert to raise awareness? Impossible..because I think most artists will only treat the event as a way to gain publicity..and to the audience, they are only there to watch their favourite band/singer's perform..and after the whole event? Leave a mountain of rubbish at the scene..horrible.. -
the fact that we are TALKING abt live earth means it worked -_-Originally posted by alleggerita:The idea behind Live Earth is good I would say..but this is the kind of good ideas that are never going to work out..
Inviting well-known artists to perform at Live Earth Concert to raise awareness? Impossible..because I think most artists will only treat the event as a way to gain publicity..and to the audience, they are only there to watch their favourite band/singer's perform..and after the whole event? Leave a mountain of rubbish at the scene..horrible.. -
It might actually be the case that global warming would cause our part of the world to rain more often. I'm just guessing.Originally posted by FireIce:where warm?
recently keep raining deh............. -
It's part of the effects of global warming.Originally posted by FireIce:where warm?
recently keep raining deh............. -
yes the message is convey to most pple especially those who attended the live earth performance but do they echo it no
look @ the amount of rubbish after each live earth in different country
do anyone think that it did help or worsen it ? -
everyone is so money oriented.Originally posted by selfobliged:But i did enjoy the concert though =P they should have more of those mini advertisements regarding global warming
who's gonna pay for airtime?
don't always wait for the superpowers to do something. we are also living on this earth, every little bit counts.Originally posted by dahliamorie:Singapore is too small to cause an impact on both global warming and trying to save earth.
sorry, i had sporeans in mind when i thought of that.Originally posted by ispyyy:lol...
if it is the heat tat affect, it wont be a topic for world leaders to discuss...
Never watch b4 "the day after tomolo" ,hah??
Global warming may cause a climate change that may probably wipe out human race scientist stilll cant confirm -
Why would "TALKING" about the Live Earth concert meant it worked?Originally posted by Vigelic:the fact that we are TALKING abt live earth means it worked -_-
Even if something worked, the thing that worked is that artists performing has succeeded in gaining more publicity..
The Live Earth Concert is meant to CREATE AWARENESS about global warming..if after watching it and we are "TALKING" about how well the Red Hot Chilli Peppers, Linkin Park, Snow Patrol, Keane performed during the concert, the AWARENESS that the concert is creating is wrong..
So "TALKING" about Live Earth doesn't mean people are now more aware of global warming.. -
Those in "The Day After tomorrow" after non-fiction. National Geographic or Discovery Channel got say already.Originally posted by ispyyy:lol...
if it is the heat tat affect, it wont be a topic for world leaders to discuss...
Never watch b4 "the day after tomolo" ,hah??
Global warming may cause a climate change that may probably wipe out human race scientist stilll cant confirm -
Everyone has a part to play despite being a small country.. Even though the earth temperature is rising everyday, by doing our parts, we might see a slim chance of survival (as technology advances) it might extend our survival rate.. lols.. and.. The day after tml is really a nice movie i still rmb after watching it i'm freezing cold =X
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yea.. national geo and discovery channel did say it's fiction.. because of the time frame.. as in everything happen too fast in the movie.. ice age will not happen in a matter a few weeks.. it happen over a period of time.. the fiction part is only the time frame.. the ice age is not fiction and it's part or the earth climate cycle.. if we don't do anything about global warming, there will be either one of the 2 ending for earth..Originally posted by Darkness_hacker99:Those in "The Day After tomorrow" after non-fiction. National Geographic or Discovery Channel got say already.
1)global flooding and intense storms.. stronger heat waves, more disease and whatever you are hearing about the consequensces of global warming..
-->results in human deaths..
2)tigger ice age-->results in widespread death of humans race
i guess all of us in the world should play a part in solving thing problem as this is our only home.. without earth, do you think anyon of us will be talking down here in sgforums or shop in orchard road? even in such a small country like singapore, it's important for us to play a part as we as well contribute to global warming. i personally thinks that live earth does some effect to the masses. it changed the thinking of people about global warming and the importance of it.. people now knows that there is global warming and this is a good start.. but unfortunately, we might be too late to fully solve the problem..