I, you are always here
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i really catch no ballsOriginally posted by caleb_chiang:Think TS is saying like....
when I talking to you, it is not you who I talk to and also it might not be me who talk to you whom is not you.
humans are really too intelligent for their own good -
doncha know??? andrew is neither capable of simplifying or has the willingness to explain or answer your question. if you cannot understank what he's writing, you are delusional.Originally posted by gigabyte14:er, you can simplify anot?
i, on the other hand, is still harbouring wishes to own his book, which till now i am still unable to lay my hands on. -
finally something that is simple to understand.... thanks caleb.Originally posted by caleb_chiang:Think TS is saying like....
when I talking to you, it is not you who I talk to and also it might not be me who talk to you whom is not you. -
nabeiOriginally posted by Chin Eng:doncha know??? andrew is neither capable of simplifying or has the willingness to explain or answer your question. if you cannot understank what he's writing, you are delusional.
i, on the other hand, is still harbouring wishes to own his book, which till now i am still unable to lay my hands on.
humans really think too much already
if we go back to the basics, then his theories are just bullcrap -
what the hell
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Hell? Oh, hell is define as the opposite of Heaven.Originally posted by lakopi:what the hell -
wrong post, deleted
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There is no simplification of this reality because of the limitations of the human mind and human language.
What you can do however is to realize it.
How can you realize it?
Tell yourself:
The past is here but it is not here.
The present is here but it is not here.
The future is here but it is not here.
How to realize that?
You realize it when all your thoughts and actions take this into account.
When all your thoughts incorporates these reality and all your actions incorporates this reality.
How can you incorporate your thoughts and actions into this reality?
Practice.
What is the point of realizing these reality?
What is the point of practicing the realization of these realities?
If nothing else, you become wiser! -
correction on the title, it should be: "I am always here"
You are not always here but you can also say "I am always here".
So the title should be "I am always here and you can say also "I am always here". -
thank you for admitting to your error.... it takes a great man to do it.Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:correction on the title, it should be: "I am always here"
You are not always here but you can also say "I am always here".
So the title should be "I am always here and you can say also "I am always here".
...but funny isn't it.... all the confusion over a typo.... -
will i be wiser if i realise that you are not going to tell me where to buy that book?Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:If nothing else, you become wiser!
or will i be wiser if i realise that perhaps there is no book to buy?
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Isn't it strange that all you can do is assert that time exists? You cannot measure time (you can measure the speed of something because the concept of time exists), and you cannot in anyway sense it, (you can sense the movement of the earth around the sun).
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What book? Published already?Originally posted by Chin Eng:will i be wiser if i realise that you are not going to tell me where to buy that book?
or will i be wiser if i realise that perhaps there is no book to buy? -
seriously la, humans use their brain wrongly already
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huh?Originally posted by gigabyte14:seriously la, humans use their brain wrongly already -
Words, no matter whether they are vocalized and made into sounds orOriginally posted by gigabyte14:er, you can simplify anot?
remain unspoken as thoughts, can cast an almost hypnotic spell upon you.
You easily lose yourself in them, become hypnotized into implicitly
believing that when you have attached a word to something, you know what
it is. The fact is: You donÂ’t know what it is. You have only covered up the
mystery with a label. Everything, a bird, a tree, even a simple stone, and
certainly a human being, is ultimately unknowable. This is because it has
unfathomable depth. All we can perceive, experience, think about, is the
surface layer of reality, less than the tip of an iceberg.
Underneath the surface appearance, everything is not only connected
with everything else, but also with the Source of all life out of which it
came. Even a stone, and more easily a flower or a bird, could show you the
way back to God, to the Source, to yourself. When you look at it or hold it
and let it be without imposing a word or mental label on it, a sense of awe, of
wonder, arises within you. Its essence silently communicates itself to you
and reflects your own essence back to you. This is what great artists sense
and succeed in conveying in their art. Van Gogh didn’t say: “That’s just an
old chair.” He looked, and looked, and looked. He sensed the Beingness of
the chair. Then he sat in front of the canvas and took up the brush. The chair
itself would have sold for the equivalent of a few dollars. The painting of that
same chair today would fetch in excess of $25 million.
When you donÂ’t cover up the world with words and labels, a sense of
the miraculous returns to your life that was lost a long time ago when
humanity, instead of using thought, became possessed by thought. A depth
returns to your life. Things regain their newness, their freshness. And the
greatest miracle is the experiencing of your essential self as prior to any
words, thoughts, mental labels, and images. For this to happen, you need to
disentangle your sense of I, of Beingness, from all the things it has become
mixed up with, that is to say, identified with. That disentanglement is what
this book is about.
The quicker you are in attaching verbal or mental labels to things, people, or situations, the more shallow and lifeless your reality becomes, and the more deadened you become to reality, the miracle of life that continuously unfolds within and around you. In this way, cleverness may be gained, but wisdom is lost, and so are joy, love, creativity, and aliveness.
They are concealed in the still gap between the perception and the
interpretation. Of course we have to use words and thoughts. They have their
own beauty – but do we need to become imprisoned in them?
Words reduce reality to something the human mind can grasp, which
isnÂ’t very much. Language consists of five basic sounds produced by the
vocal cords. They are the vowels a, e, i, o, u. The other sounds are
consonants produced by air pressure: s, f, g, and so forth. Do you believe
some combination of such basic sounds could ever explain who you are, or
the ultimate purpose of the universe, or even what a tree or stone is in its
depth?
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haha giga.. in its purest form of logic who is one to say how to use the brain correctly?Originally posted by gigabyte14:seriously la, humans use their brain wrongly already
As mentioned, the capability of the human brain and human language is limited.
Ignorance leads to simplicity.. You choose.. =) -
Once again AndrewPkYap posts something that I have no idea what it's about. I suggest you improve your eloquence because you seem to be lacking communication skills. Either that or get some help, your train of thought seems to be going around in circles and makes no sense whatsoever. It's something like:
How do you know your existence of this planet is the reality? Because that's what the human mind presents you.
The presentation of the human mind is reality yet it is not.
The human mind presents reality unrealistically and therefore it is not reality.
Makes no sense does it? Yep that's pretty much what all your posts sound like. -
David Carse:Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:correction on the title, it should be: "I am always here"
You are not always here but you can also say "I am always here".
So the title should be "I am always here and you can say also "I am always here".
...Look, it's all so incredibly simple. There is no one here. This is not a figure of speech. I mean there is truly no one here, no person, no individual speaking to you. You look at me and think there is a person here talking to you, trying to tell you something. I assure you, there is not. Look at me. If there were not Consciousness streaming through this body, what would be here? What would this body be if Consciousness were not here? A corpse, of course! Dead matter. There is nothing else here. There is only the appearance of a body, and Consciousness which animates it. You, along with the rest of the world, have assumed that there is a discreet individual person here: that the Consciousness which is the animating force here is an individual consciousness, unique to this body and separate from the consciousness in other bodies.
This is based on appearances: there appear to be separate bodies, so the assumption is that there are separate consciousness-es. The belief in this assumption blinds you to seeing What Is, and is also the cause of your experience of this life as disquieting, confusing, unhappy, and generally full of fear and suffering. But it is not the case. There is in no way an individual sitting here talking to you. This body is nothing, an appearance in the dream. All there is is Consciousness, and it is Consciousness which is streaming through this appearance.
There is nothing here that exists in and of itself. What we call the human being is not an independent being, not an originating mechanism, not a transmitter. It is a relay station, a pass-through mechanism for Consciousness, the One Consciousness, All That Is. That is what I am, talking to you. And it is the same One Consciousness listening to this, looking back at me out of those eyes you call your own. What I am when I say 'I Am' is exactly the same as what you are when you say 'I Am.'.... -
Sounds like solipism.
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click APKY's link at his siggies.... all i see is a book cover design.... no purchase information, no price, no nothing....Originally posted by An Eternal Now:What book? Published already?
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Life can be simple. Look at animals and even better look at plants.
You can also live life just fulfilling your physical needs.
You can live life fulfilling your physical needs and emotional needs.
You can live life fulfilling your physical, emotional and intellectual needs.
It is all about the quality of life.
It is about the quality of existence.
Just as animals can survive without ever pondering their own existence (even better, look at plants) you can live life, with the attitude "Eat drink and make merry for tomorrow we die."
No one is stopping you. There is another way. A way where your eating, your drinking and your merry-making, yes your life is better, more fulfilling and more exciting.
There is a way whereby you can wake up every morning with a happy song in your head. You can go through life in bliss.
You will be doing what everyone is doing outwardly but it will be different because the difference is in your mind. -
hey i thought we already discussed this several times in several of ur same topic threads?
but u're good la.. even FI cannot understand.. if FI understood wad u r talking.. she will ask u continue in existing thread -.-
how many times u wanna start new thread abt this? -
Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:
I never understood what you were trying to say until you typed in green
[b]Life can be simple. Look at animals and even better look at plants.
You can also live life just fulfilling your physical needs.
You can live life fulfilling your physical needs and emotional needs.
You can live life fulfilling your physical, emotional and intellectual needs.
It is all about the quality of life.
It is about the quality of existence.
Just as animals can survive without ever pondering their own existence (even better, look at plants) you can live life, with the attitude "Eat drink and make merry for tomorrow we die."
No one is stopping you. There is another way. A way where your eating, your drinking and your merry-making, yes your life is better, more fulfilling and more exciting.
There is a way whereby you can wake up every morning with a happy song in your head. You can go through life in bliss.
You will be doing what everyone is doing outwardly but it will be different because the difference is in your mind.[/b]
Yes,I agree. -
“Therefore I tell you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat or drink; or about your body, what you will wear. Is not life more important than food, and the body more important than clothes? Look at the birds of the air; they do not sow or reap or store away in barns, and yet your heavenly Father feed them. Are much more valuable than they? Who of you by worrying can add a single hour to his life?”
Matthew 6:25-27