Tough PSLE Maths paper?
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If your son like that my nephew how?Originally posted by Chin Eng:Today newspaper forum
My son, a top student, returned home shattered after difficult PSLE maths paper
Letter from GUO WEIFU
THIS yearÂ’s PSLE mathematics paper has caused many students undeserved anguish. Their reactions, including that of the good and gifted ones, were one of despair and discouragement upon encountering problem sums that were set beyond their capabilities. Some even broke down right after the examination.
My son is in a top class. Mentally strong and confident in mathematics, he returned shattered boy after the exam.
I immediately checked with friends and teachers from other classes and schools, and the same story was heard.
Although schools have been equipping pupils with the skills of applying mathematical concepts, many could not complete half or more of the problem sums.
Is there a huge gap between expectations and ability? In the mind of a child, he has either failed or done badly. With his confidence ripped by the mathematics paper, how can a child recover in less than 24 hours to face the next paper?
Tearing children apart mentally at a developmental stage snuffs out the joy of
learning. The Singapore Examinations and Assessment Board (SEAB) had previously said “the exams were a means to differentiate students of diverse abilities by setting questions of varying difficulty levels”.
It stated that an examination paper should be comparable in difficulty from one year to the next and “teachers know how to prepare their students for the examinations”.
SEAB also stated that different teams of experienced setters, moderators and examiners conduct several rounds of checking of each question and for the paper as a whole.
The fact different teams are involved is no consolation as it may be a systemic failure from pegging the paper at too high a standard.
For some parents and students, education is seen as a source of mental torture. All I ask is this: Please give the children of Singapore the confidence to face their future with a lionÂ’s heart.
Whaddaya think???
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your gf just 12 ah.....Originally posted by jeremy89632:ai ya.. now the parents very..
My gf scored 245+ for PSLE.. It is already considered very good already. Then,her father wasnt quite happy.. Said that all must score A*. because 2 subjects A* and 2 subject A.. <- Think so..
Her parents want her to go into very very very good school.. I think it is crazy one lor.
Moral:
Parents!! Dont pressure your kids!! -
Originally posted by a_splash:your gf just 12 ah.....
sure starting younger and younger.... -
He said scored mah..Originally posted by a_splash:your gf just 12 ah.....
So is above 13 liao. -
Within 4 years the standard of Singapore has dropped dramatically.
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PSLE isnt really that important
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i hope that is 6 years agoOriginally posted by jeremy89632:ai ya.. now the parents very..
My gf scored 245+ for PSLE.. It is already considered very good already. Then,her father wasnt quite happy.. Said that all must score A*. because 2 subjects A* and 2 subject A.. <- Think so..
Her parents want her to go into very very very good school.. I think it is crazy one lor.
Moral: Parents!! Dont pressure your kids!! -
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i agreed very much on this. text book no teach = dun know how to do. remind me of 1 of my friend when we are in australia exercise wallaby. he see all of us chewing bubble gum and blowing bubble. then come and ask us how do we do that. so 1 of us reply. you know why you dun know? cos the text book never write, teacher in school never teach therefore you don know. and he is in one of those top jc ppl.Originally posted by FireIce:comparing syllabus, u find that nowadays, it's easier and easier...
i dunno wat ppl are complaining about
and if there is something not in the textbook, ppl complain it's not taught......it's not tt it's not taught blatantly, but testing on ur analytical and problem-solving skills (soft skills), which is unfortunately lacking in most of our ppl due to the assembly-line education system.... something off the norm and all gets farked......oni the true brainers stand out....... -
You meant which year's PSLE sci paper? 2004 one? It was damn easy larhhs. I even scored A lorhhs, somemore anyhow do one. xDOriginally posted by kenn3th:i from monkey year de
killer sci paper
but why ah
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I rmb-ed 2003 science paper was the worst sci paper i ever didOriginally posted by BaoBei92:You meant which year's PSLE sci paper? 2004 one? It was damn easy larhhs. I even scored A lorhhs, somemore anyhow do one. xD -
also never A*...still dare say dam easyOriginally posted by BaoBei92:You meant which year's PSLE sci paper? 2004 one? It was damn easy larhhs. I even scored A lorhhs, somemore anyhow do one. xD -
Anyhow anyhow also get A, power lah you.Originally posted by BaoBei92:You meant which year's PSLE sci paper? 2004 one? It was damn easy larhhs. I even scored A lorhhs, somemore anyhow do one. xD
If you seriously do, sure get F lor. -
u say easy u get A. he say difficult he get A*Originally posted by BaoBei92:You meant which year's PSLE sci paper? 2004 one? It was damn easy larhhs. I even scored A lorhhs, somemore anyhow do one. xD i got A* too but i forgot how hard the paper was 
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people are stupid. even if paper is difficult, they will still moderate. same for o levels. knn shattered simi lan jiao. last time i 2002 also come out A*. knn. hate this kind of over protective ignorant parents
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I wrote to The Singapore Examinations and Assessment Board (SEAB) a long time ago about the unfairness of "moderating" PSLE scores using the bell curve. They said that they do not do it. I pointed out to them that in one of the school's websites, the school published the methodology and mentioned that they use standard deviation techniques.Originally posted by unclebutcher:people are stupid. even if paper is difficult, they will still moderate. same for o levels. knn shattered simi lan jiao. last time i 2002 also come out A*. knn. hate this kind of over protective ignorant parents
The reply from them? Standard deviation and bell curves are not related.
and....................... the the page in the aforementioned school's website was taken down... I have no proof, but I guess that someone made a call to the principal....
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2002 the math paper was damned easy la...=/Originally posted by unclebutcher:people are stupid. even if paper is difficult, they will still moderate. same for o levels. knn shattered simi lan jiao. last time i 2002 also come out A*. knn. hate this kind of over protective ignorant parents -
Liddat also want to complain.
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Originally posted by Chin Eng:Today newspaper forum
My son, a top student, returned home shattered after difficult PSLE maths paper
Letter from GUO WEIFU
THIS yearÂ’s PSLE mathematics paper has caused many students undeserved anguish. Their reactions, including that of the good and gifted ones, were one of despair and discouragement upon encountering problem sums that were set beyond their capabilities. Some even broke down right after the examination.
My son is in a top class. Mentally strong and confident in mathematics, he returned shattered boy after the exam.I immediately checked with friends and teachers from other classes and schools, and the same story was heard.
Although schools have been equipping pupils with the skills of applying mathematical concepts, many could not complete half or more of the problem sums.
Is there a huge gap between expectations and ability? In the mind of a child, he has either failed or done badly. With his confidence ripped by the mathematics paper, how can a child recover in less than 24 hours to face the next paper?
Tearing children apart mentally at a developmental stage snuffs out the joy of
learning. The Singapore Examinations and Assessment Board (SEAB) had previously said “the exams were a means to differentiate students of diverse abilities by setting questions of varying difficulty levels”.
It stated that an examination paper should be comparable in difficulty from one year to the next and “teachers know how to prepare their students for the examinations”.
SEAB also stated that different teams of experienced setters, moderators and examiners conduct several rounds of checking of each question and for the paper as a whole.
The fact different teams are involved is no consolation as it may be a systemic failure from pegging the paper at too high a standard.
For some parents and students, education is seen as a source of mental torture. All I ask is this: Please give the children of Singapore the confidence to face their future with a lionÂ’s heart.
Whaddaya think???
shattered <-----
next time go work kena scolded by boss then how?
this parent also laughable (the last sentence in red) -
This is definitely a looonngg thread..Originally posted by Lorry`:
shattered <-----
next time go work kena scolded by boss then how?
this parent also laughable (the last sentence in red)
Lorry's point well said.. I dunno how today parents think. If exams are set to his son's "TOP" standards and he scored A* - so what ? His son is living in a FALSE SENSE OF ACHIEVEMENTS when life is actually much tougher. When this son go to working life - haha.... you know what happen.. crying to the father... -
Me too, my tuition kid have a very damm demanding mum. Everytime say this is not his best, that is still not his best. hello? her son has scored 40/45 for just a normal test already. She is damm demanding, just becoz her son is not the top in the class that the guy got 42. She even told me i think his results dropped u know... She would even tell me, this section A mcq he shouldnt get wrong one... That section B qn I heard is quite easy but dunno why he cannot answer. So now she is blamming me lah?
Dunno what's with these parents these days. I feel like telling her, Mdm since u think u know so much and ur so smart, why dont u come and do his paper? I think these parents got to know that u cannot always be no. 1 or the best. Doesnt mean that ur a top in primary or secondary means that u will be forever good. And most importantly, being good in studies really doesnt mean everything, for u can be a person who is not street smart, and it also need not mean that u will have a bright future. It just means that ur good at books. Being a top doesnt say anything about the person's future or personaility. Thats what i think, pardon my language. =) -
this thread still going? wah one maths paper only mus discuss until liddat, complain until liddat, time better spent on studying hard is wasted on playing word games in sgforums....
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Wanna know why they are setting such a tough PSLE paper for Maths?
The setters are competing amongst themselves to see who can set the toughest questions.
Go and read the copy of the TODAY newspaper issued on 10/10/2007.
And I wonder: Do you want to murder the children of Singapore?
Until today, I still can't understand all the craziness I went through during my primary school days. It was all for nothing.
Perhaps the best thing I can remember is the number of classes I had to sit through, the different teachers and their attitudes, and who the principal of the school was at that time. -
i think this issue is not just a problem about scoring the PSLE maths, its a big issue we are facing, being parents, teachers, school, MOE and worst of all the students (victims)
many parents send children for tuitions to ensure they can do well....then exams' standard set even higher (afterall exams can't hv all scoring, its would not be an exam anymore, right?) then school/teachers' responsibilities becomes higher, then students' standard becomes even higher, exams becomes even tougher...it goes on and on.....can't imagine what it would be in another 5 yrs' time....
i heard one college student telling me everyday studied till 12 to 1 pm.....quite tough (even with tuition for various subjects).........yoz... scary.....
gone are those days when u go home and throw your bags ...study only when exams round the corner.... -
some parents think if they last time very good, den why cant their children?
if the child has potential (YOU PARENTS NOE YOUR CHILDREN BEST), u can try to push. if my child had potential, i would definitely push him or her harder a bit. otherwise, i would tell him or her to try his or her best and dats it.
everybody need stress, but not too much stress.