What will you do with this technology?
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For a start, it is never about defending my technology. I am merely seeking an opinion of wad others would do with such technology on hand.Originally posted by Where Is God:So you are unable to defend your "technology", am i right? Do you even know half of what you are talking about? Or are you just blabbering what you remember from the Star Trek you watched last night.
It is your choice to remain a skeptic and I respect that.
And just becos you haven't seen God doesn't prove that He doesn't exists. The sad part about this technology is that like God, you will only know if I'm calling bluff till you see something like what I've describe.
cheers
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Never would I have thought that our future would lie in the hands of an SgForumer....I call BS
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huh? So if I today say, I will live forever, you should believe me? You will only know if I'm calling bluff till you see I've died? So should I start selling medicine that claims to let you live forever, since I'm a living evidence?? I can give you best price, for being my first customer.Originally posted by NewAgeSensitiveBoy:For a start, it is never about defending my technology. I am merely seeking an opinion of wad others would do with such technology on hand.
It is your choice to remain a skeptic and I respect that.
And just becos you haven't seen God doesn't prove that He doesn't exists. The sad part about this technology is that like God, you will only know if I'm calling bluff till you see something like what I've describe.
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hey , if what you say r true , then you can just go to singapore invention board or what inventive de , go find thru link , you can sell them for maybe 500k if it works but of coz , they will work billion if it work
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hmm that means 1 batt equal to 2 batt?
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you guys are really digging into this aren;t you all?
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Say, for awhile I would had thought its not really possible in simple phycis, for a battery to charge up 2 batteries.. But what I think is that TS may have had a breakthrough, simplifying advance physics, that using energy from the parent battery to convert other sources of "ignored" energy to electrical energy.. Not sure of what "other sources" are but I'm thinking again that this might be feasible and if we are to take TS word for it, he may have found a feasible way.. i would think energy is all around us.. heat, sound emf blah blah blah..
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VCs around the world has been fed similar tales, let alone govt entities. Do you think anyone will give you credence, to give you funding?Originally posted by NewAgeSensitiveBoy:That I am aware. The question about upscaling commercially has been considered while designing the device and it has been designed in a way where it can be practically applied.
The consideration of marketing this technology is always the case of obsoleting other industries and professions ie. oil, so yes, we are taking the consipracy as you have mentioned very seriously which is why the device has been dismantled and parts held by various parties jus to calm our paranoid psychology
You would need to self fund to at least a pre-production prototype, get production/assembly sorted out, discussions with OEM before anyone will seriously consider funding you. What you have is termed a proof-of-concept prototype which doesn't mean much.
To be commercially viable, there is a lot more things to be considered beyond 'we designed it from scratch from a commercial stand point'. Too many things beyond a simple business plan.
In truth, how can u protect your technology? If there is any true value, any big US MNC will just grab and then prepare for litigation. Do you have a 5 million war chest to start legal battles? You may send lawyer letters to threaten, but beyond that, what can you do? Do you have the lobbying platform these companies have? Creative learned that the hard way, in the best recent example.
What's more, in China, there is no way to maintain IP protection in any way. The China men will just laugh at you if you talk about suing them.
I'm not discouraging you. This is just to food for thought when you think you have something great.
In my role, I have been fed a lot of similar tales from Israel, US, China and India. Nope, I never did proceed with them. Neither did I hear anything significant ever again. The only one that was ongoing was with the Israel entity.
Another good recent example was Hyflux. They had something great. But EDB just shrugged and didn't invest. The problem is the private equity industry has been fed with a lot of fast talk, and it is really hard to make a good idea, a good business. -
Thanks for all your reply.
It is indeed true that there has been many claims around the world of such concept. just go into youtube and type "free energy" and countless of such devises will be available for viewing and there's no way of proving its authenticity.
I think the question in mind for us right now is who shall we approach and how do we go about doing it, bearing in mind that such tech will obsolete several industry and that such line has to be threaded carefully.
Our priority would of course be money but then, further to that we would like to open this technology to a party that is willing to apply it and not somebody who buys and shelve it to protect their rice bowl.
I appreciate all the responses recieved, positive and skeptic cos it gives me a feel of the reaction that to anticipate when we've decided our audience to approach... -
I'm not sure if your claims are true. However, if they are to be true, I believe you should be seeking for professional opinions in websites which provides resources for scientists and engineers. As I've no experience in that and neither do I have any idea of the resources you will need, I won't provide you with any suggestion. Otherwise, please don't post your wild claims on a casual discussion board and waste everyone's time. Honestly, I believe few of us here have any idea what to do even if what you claimed are to be true.
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good response.. respeck~Originally posted by NewAgeSensitiveBoy:Thanks for all your reply.
It is indeed true that there has been many claims around the world of such concept. just go into youtube and type "free energy" and countless of such devises will be available for viewing and there's no way of proving its authenticity.
I think the question in mind for us right now is who shall we approach and how do we go about doing it, bearing in mind that such tech will obsolete several industry and that such line has to be threaded carefully.
Our priority would of course be money but then, further to that we would like to open this technology to a party that is willing to apply it and not somebody who buys and shelve it to protect their rice bowl.
I appreciate all the responses recieved, positive and skeptic cos it gives me a feel of the reaction that to anticipate when we've decided our audience to approach... -
I'm dead sure it's not possible. Anyway FBI, when was your 6666th post?Originally posted by FBI:hmm that means 1 batt equal to 2 batt? -
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Where Is God has already mentioned that such EM-field shockwaves can only occur in vaccum.
And from Wikipedia:
3. The source of energy is the Electric shockwave that is created within the circuit as of any circuit will generate.
I'm sorry, but saying electric shockwave in a circuit is like saying swimming in air. Electric shockwave can only be present through an electromagnetic field in the absence of a physical medium, whereas, circuit implies a a closed path through which an electric current flows. Saying that a shockwave exist in a circuit is paradoxical and nonsensical.
Yup, energy cannot be created or destroyed. So I believe whatever energy that was harnessed from EM waves and whatsoever originated from the battery itself. So it's like a 1 = 1 thing. Furthermore, it would probably lose minute amount of energy here and there to the environment because of movement of electrons etc.
Like an ordinary wave, a shock wave carries energy and can propagate through a medium (solid, liquid or gas), or, in special cases, through a field such as the electromagnetic field in the absence of a physical medium.
And once again, I guess anyone who makes such discovery would not post it in a public forum just for the sake of asking opinions. And yea, I'm on the skeptical side as well, especially with the above errors you have made. -
i would change 1 battery into 2, 2 into 4, 4 into 8, 8 into 16 etc. just repeat this procedure 15 times and i will have 32768 batteries and soon i will have unlimited power. everybody will do the same and many natural problems can be solved, eg the ozone layer will not get bigger because we have clean sources of energy etc. the possibilities are unlimited. its a revolutionary invention that will change our lives forever. Amazing. IF this is all possible. good luck.
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hmm....
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It is indeed true tat since energy cannot be created nor destroyed, 1 unit of power cannot generate more than 1 unit of output. Given our most efficient power plant in Senoko, it could only generate an efficiency 40-50% of power conversion from natural gas, the remaining lost through sound, heat and vibration energy.
However, try thinking from the perspective of say a waterdam generating electricity where the regulating of the turbine and water flow is controlled by technicians with a mere push of buttons. And try converting this concept to a battery where the source at this point of discussion is actually acting as a triggering force to draw energy from electrons within the circuit rather than a supplying force.
Hence, yes it is not possible to transfer 1 unit of power from a battery to convert it to 2 units, but very much possible if this 1 unit is used as a trigger to draw energy from "ignored sources" and convert it to useable electricity where the laws of physics is not violated.
As for the question about why bringing this topic on a general public forum, firstly, the ultimate consumers would be the general public like you and I. Thus I feel it would be beneficial for us to understand the general opinion prior to arriving at a decision of our approach to its application and revelations.
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can use it in fans? since the electromagnetic field can be converted to electrical energy
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From an applications point of view, we are pretty aware of how this technology can be applied. It is the consideration of the audience to whom we should be selling such technology to that is bothering us, bearing in mind that it would obsolete several industries and professions and also as highlighted by one of the forumers, it is definitely cheaper to buy a contract on us than to buy the technology......
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shh, too much info, best is you go google up and check if someone had beaten you to that, and next, quickly patent it.
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I highly doubt anyone has such a patent.Originally posted by kenn3th:shh, too much info, best is you go google up and check if someone had beaten you to that, and next, quickly patent it. -
Kindly stop using the loaded words "ignored sources". Engineers prefer untapped waste or free energy.Originally posted by NewAgeSensitiveBoy:It is indeed true tat since energy cannot be created nor destroyed, 1 unit of power cannot generate more than 1 unit of output. Given our most efficient power plant in Senoko, it could only generate an efficiency 40-50% of power conversion from natural gas, the remaining lost through sound, heat and vibration energy.
However, try thinking from the perspective of say a waterdam generating electricity where the regulating of the turbine and water flow is controlled by technicians with a mere push of buttons. And try converting this concept to a battery where the source at this point of discussion is actually acting as a triggering force to draw energy from electrons within the circuit rather than a supplying force.
Hence, yes it is not possible to transfer 1 unit of power from a battery to convert it to 2 units, but very much possible if this 1 unit is used as a trigger to draw energy from "ignored sources" and convert it to useable electricity where the laws of physics is not violated.
As for the question about why bringing this topic on a general public forum, firstly, the ultimate consumers would be the general public like you and I. Thus I feel it would be beneficial for us to understand the general opinion prior to arriving at a decision of our approach to its application and revelations.
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Well, til present, though with much delay, there has yet to be any facts proving them otherwiseOriginally posted by limywv:this sounds like steorn's fakeass technology -
This is deadly serious stuff. Better ask Hilarion for serious advice, seriously. Take heed, Mr NewAgeBoy, this is waaayyy too important to play play.Originally posted by NewAgeSensitiveBoy:My group of engineers have recently discovered a technology that managed to tap on eletro-magnetic force tat is generated within an eletric circuit and convert it to usable electricity.... ok now, what should i do with it? -