Child prostitution..Do people involved deserve a 2nd chance?
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Everyone deserves a second chance. ....
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sigh.. its very grey area. if i put myself in the victim shoes, i'd say they don't deserve.Originally posted by BadzMaro:Everyone deserves a second chance. ....
i think. =P
but if i put myself in the perp's shoes.. i feel victimized for an obsession i cannot control..
like the computer gaming freak? play game until go crazy?
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its hard ah. But i think everyone deserves a second chance to right the wrong. But second chance given to those that are not remorseful will just result in a second victim , and that time.. it may be too late.. may result in death.Originally posted by dumbdumb!:sigh.. its very grey area. if i put myself in the victim shoes, i'd say they don't deserve.
but if i put myself in the perp's shoes.. i feel victimized for an obsession i cannot control..
like the computer gaming freak? play game until go crazy?
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Ok, chill. Tell me whose fault is it that certain people feel a kind of attraction towards pre-pubescent youngsters?Originally posted by Nikar2:(hisoka)
u bloody little low-life possible paedophile.....having sexual preferences towards children is different from having sexual preferences towards animals / same gender.
paedophilia is ultimately the most unforgivable crime in the history of mankind.
one can forgive Osama Bin Laden for his acts but one cannot forgive a child rapist.
indeed, give me a butcher knife and i sure would love to severe the penis of any child molester/rapist and feed it to the dogs.
with these guys, we must be brutal.
this kind of crime is so hateful that paedophiles who go to prison end up getting raped by other inmates once they know of what crime he committed.
so, no.....child-porn related acts are unforgivable and people who commit them do not deserve a 2nd chance.
for me, i can forgive terrorists, i can forgive Bush, i can forgive MM Lee, i can forgive everyone, but not people involved in child-porn / molesting / rape.
these guys deserve an instant trip to hell where they get arse-raped by the devils non-stop everyday.
in SG, by just caning them, it's already giving them a 2nd chance, which i feel is too light.
GO TO HELL, YOU CHILD MOLESTERS AND RAPISTS!!!!!!!!!!
TO HELL, HELL AWAITS YOU, YOU MONSTERS!!!!!!!!!!
KILL ALL BLARDY CHILD MOLESTERS AND RAPISTS!!!!!!!
THEIR EXISTENCE IS FORBIDDEN!!!!
KILL!!!!!!!!!!!
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I do not wish to slam your personal opinion on the subject matter....Originally posted by hisoka:actualy thinking about it, theres nothing really wrong with having sexual preferences towards children. It's not a crime, its just another different preference, abeilt one that society in general is not prepared to accept. (think homosexuality)
However, for the sake of discussion...
Homosexuality is between 2 consenting adults who have same sex preference. Society SHOULD not have a say in what two adults choose to do with each other, to each other. I understand that you used "homosexuality" in this context as an example of how society's ever judging gaze is fixed upon many "grey areas"....but be carefull not to confuse readers that the two grey areas are of equal magnitude just because they are both grey.
A child(or a minor if you will) is not of capacity to make choices for himself/herself in the areas of love,sex,marriage...etc simply because they cannot grasp the severity and implications of these decisions.
Adults see themselves as people who are to defend a child and guide a child to being brought up in an upright and moral manner.
When a child is made to have frivalous sexual relations with other men for a source of income...by another adult....How is this not to be viewed as being a crime?
When an adult is drawn to a child's innocence, and finds a sexual need to be intimate with said innocence despite knowing that the implications of his actions will lead to self gratification at the expense of another human being's well being(mind and body)....how is this not to be viewed negatively??
Preference is a term used when people of intellectual, who are able to weigh out cause and effect and make decisions based on this, choose their preferred scenario. A child does not come under this category. -
Which is what leads me to the question once again...Originally posted by BadzMaro:its hard ah. But i think everyone deserves a second chance to right the wrong. But second chance given to those that are not remorseful will just result in a second victim , and that time.. it may be too late.. may result in death.
So yeah.
With the risks involved, Do they deserve a second chance? -
IF it really is a mental disorder, then their actions cannot be controlled.
control smlj control to say that a mental disorder can be controlled would oni mean that u have never had a mental disorder of any sort before. which is lucky i guess
and huh. the thing about mental disorders is that once u are labelled, it's stuck with you for the rest of your life. they will never say that u have fully recovered. it'll always be in remission. -
I read what you typed..and it bugs me because i believe this to be true.Originally posted by limywv:they should be shot. they can control , it's only when they succumb to temptation will they commit such crimes....each and everyone of us is 99% the same, we are 1% in terms of our thoughts and actions
Not the "being shot" part....although there are days where i would agree with this approach....
But i agree that control is possible. Labeling it as a "sickness" has only served to provide this "indecent lack of judgement" with an excuse....an angle with which to view it for argumentative purposes.
However, it is NOT a sickness....I wish to take back what i said earlier on in the posts....
It is a purely a weak heart and mind giving in to it's temptations because SOCIETY has already labeled them a victim of a "sickness". They ARE NOT the victims and people have to stop seeing them as such. They should be held accountable in every aspect for their actions. -
The point is, child prostitutes are forced to service paedophiles to earn money for the pimps. They have no rights and are ill-treated if they do not do what the pimps tell them to. They are nothing but child sex slaves. How can you say that is because that is their way to earn a living. Most of them are either kidnapped or sold by their parents into the trade.Originally posted by iveco:Clanedstine, are you implying that people who visit child prostitutes will attack innocent children walking past them on the street?
Although child prostitution is illegal, it is how some people earn their keep. -
anyone deserves a 2nd chance.. but we must keep reminding them by always calling them molestor.. then it will help them..
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Child molesters should be given a second chance in society only after they've been castrated!
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zzzzzzzzzzz....castrate already still can molest.Originally posted by :Child molesters should be given a second chance in society only after they've been castrated!
castrate already still can rape
castrating someone isnt going to change anything
it might just make the person more angry and when the person is let out, that's it. might go on raping spree or killing spree or something and maybe at the end of it all kill himself cos.....whats the point of living anyways..... -
calling people names wun help themOriginally posted by Zarks:anyone deserves a 2nd chance.. but we must keep reminding them by always calling them molestor.. then it will help them..
extreme sadness, anger, embarrassment etc can cause people to do a lot of crazy sh|t -
lol... just have these type of conversation with some1 a few days ago... I should have answered diplomatically... haha...Originally posted by Clandestine:A friend of mine recently sent me a piece she wrote on uncovering the depraved world of Child prostitution.
I read it and felt chills down my spine....especially the part where interviews were conducted with Child molesters who have been convicted and claim to have changed and are looking for a fresh start.
I then went online and researched on the psyche of these child molesters and this sexual fascination they have with children. In alot of the diagnosis, it is considered a mental illness which can only be curbed...not cured. This means there is a chance for relapse, given the right situation and conditions, and they might hurt another child. This disturbs me.
Do people with this "disease" deserve to be given a second chance?...
Do you think it's worth the risk?
so if u do feel offended with my views, I apologised
Ya... I believed we should give these people a second chance...
A detail report of these type of "disease" are not meant for society to condemn this people... It is meant for a hope to find a cure for these people... Or it meant for people to understand them better... This type of "disease" may happen to any1 in the society, maybe yr love ones, maybe u, maybe me... Of coz, we can confined these people away from the society but that doesnt helps to solve the problem... -
This is true....name calling could push them over the edge....Originally posted by udontknowme:calling people names wun help them
extreme sadness, anger, embarrassment etc can cause people to do a lot of crazy sh|t
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Well, very often i speak of such stuff not from personal convition but merely trying to be objective. I personally find peadophiles some what repulsive.Originally posted by Clandestine:I do not wish to slam your personal opinion on the subject matter....
However, for the sake of discussion...
Homosexuality is between 2 consenting adults who have same sex preference. Society SHOULD not have a say in what two adults choose to do with each other, to each other. I understand that you used "homosexuality" in this context as an example of how society's ever judging gaze is fixed upon many "grey areas"....but be carefull not to confuse readers that the two grey areas are of equal magnitude just because they are both grey.
A child(or a minor if you will) is not of capacity to make choices for himself/herself in the areas of love,sex,marriage...etc simply because they cannot grasp the severity and implications of these decisions.
Adults see themselves as people who are to defend a child and guide a child to being brought up in an upright and moral manner.
When a child is made to have frivalous sexual relations with other men for a source of income...by another adult....How is this not to be viewed as being a crime?
When an adult is drawn to a child's innocence, and finds a sexual need to be intimate with said innocence despite knowing that the implications of his actions will lead to self gratification at the expense of another human being's well being(mind and body)....how is this not to be viewed negatively??
Preference is a term used when people of intellectual, who are able to weigh out cause and effect and make decisions based on this, choose their preferred scenario. A child does not come under this category.
you mistake the preference/liking for the act. The preference itself is nothign illegal. wrong in your eyes maybe but only as wrong as say homosexuality to some one who adhors it.
the person can have desires for young children, but as long as he/she does not do anything in line with the desire it is nothing wrong. Just as how you can have urges to kill some one or rape or rob or cheat but as long as you don't do it, it doesn't really matter.
thats for what i meant. merely the thought/desre is not a crime, as long as you do not commit the act.
and for the sake of argument. all the arguments for paedophilic behaviour are that of a particular mindset, that is that the children should be protected and that harming others for self-gratification is bad. thats societal conditioning at least to some extend; you might feel differently if say you came from a culture where child prostitution is the norm/expected/even honoured, or one where robbing of others is alright. It's wrong from one perspective, but it might not be from another. -
they pass Aids and sex disease to young children
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Originally posted by hisoka:actualy thinking about it, theres nothing really wrong with having sexual preferences towards children. It's not a crime, its just another different preference, abeilt one that society in general is not prepared to accept. (think homosexuality)
The only problem is they have no legal way to assuage that preference. but the same could be said of a person who likes say sm but is unable to find a partner who is willing. or even a normal person who does not want to patronise paid sex but is unable to find a sexual partner.
The main problem is the person gives in to the temptation and does the act of molesting/raping a child. But how is that different from a normal rapist or molestor or even a robber. The only real difference is the natural tendency of us to protect the young, but the reason why the person acts is mainly the same.
In that sense the risks are the same and the considerations should be the same. if you want to give 2nd chances or even just release the rest, you would have to release the child-molesters too. -
disgusting. wad is so gd bout young child?
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no. pedophiles
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Image of suspect shown on Interpol website
Police say the suspect entered Thailand last week
Hunted paedophile suspect named
A suspected paedophile who appears in about 200 internet images abusing young boys has been identified by police.
Interpol officials in Thailand named him as Christopher Paul Neil, 32, an English teacher from Canada.
Interpol's European office issued an image of a suspect arriving in Thailand from South Korea last week.
The abuse pictures, thought to have been taken in Vietnam and Cambodia in 2002 and 2003, were distorted - but experts managed to unscramble them.
German computer specialists produced a clear image of a man's face, which sparked a global police hunt.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7045701.stm -
Maybe , but through extreme rehabilitation process. Extreme meaning ... if it results in his death.. then so be it. If he succeeds in the rehabilitation process , then he deserves the second chance.Originally posted by Clandestine:Which is what leads me to the question once again...
With the risks involved, Do they deserve a second chance?
But then again , i think harsh sentences , and zero-tolerance should instill enough fear into people so hopefully they will not involve themselves with such crimes. -
i think pedo behaviour is disgusting. why did anyone prey for little gers wif no boobs? as an adult to do dat on a naive gal who dunno bout bird n the bee, i find it is the sinnest thing on earth since kids treat n entrust adults n doing such thing on them is sickening.
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Maybe because they look sweet & innocent?Originally posted by 798:i think pedo behaviour is disgusting. why did anyone prey for little gers wif no boobs? as an adult to do dat on a naive gal who dunno bout bird n the bee, i find it is the sinnest thing on earth since kids treat n entrust adults n doing such thing on them is sickening.
Anyway, most of the Hogwarts babes are already legal.