NUS drops from 19 to 33 in global rankings
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Is there a list on the internet somewhere? Can't find it please post.
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I posted the link to the list in this threadOriginally posted by jondizzle foshizzle:Is there a list on the internet somewhere? Can't find it please post. -
Probably because it is only strong in certain fields..Originally posted by waves:London School of Econs dropped to 59th position?!!?
Cannot be....I think it's the ranking itself that has problems. -
Rankings according to THES
The World's Top 50 Universities
1 1 Harvard US 100 100 100 96 93 91 100
2= 2 University of Cambridge UK 100 100 99 83 98 91 97.6
2= 3 University of Oxford UK 100 100 100 82 97 96 97.6
2= 4= Yale University US 100 98 100 91 84 75 97.6
5 9 Imperial College London UK 99 99 100 81 98 100 97.5
6 10 Princeton University US 100 94 95 97 83 75 97.2
7= 7 California Institute of Technology US 100 55 100 100 100 91 96.5
7= 11 University of Chicago US 100 97 100 86 71 90 96.5
9 25 University College London UK 96 97 100 82 91 98 95.3
10 4= Massachusetts Institute of Technology US 100 99 85 98 34 94 94.6
11 12 Columbia University US 100 96 94 91 35 89 94.5
12 21 McGill University Canada 100 97 99 72 73 96 93.9
13 13 Duke University US 98 97 100 92 16 74 93.4
14 26 University of Pennsylvania US 97 96 88 92 83 65 93.3
15 23 Johns Hopkins University US 99 77 98 96 35 69 92.9
16 16 Australian National University Australia 100 91 100 66 68 91 91.6
17 19= University of Tokyo Japan 100 92 96 88 25 44 91.1
18 33= University of Hong Kong Hong Kong 95 90 85 79 100 89 90.7
19 6 Stanford University US 100 99 66 100 25 94 90.6
20= 35= Carnegie Mellon University US 96 94 76 87 67 96 90.0
20= 15 Cornell University US 100 98 74 93 36 69 90.0
22 8 University of California, Berkeley US 100 98 59 92 73 88 89.7
23 33= University of Edinburgh UK 96 98 82 76 71 80 88.8
24 46= KingÂ’s College London UK 90 95 91 70 93 84 88.2
25 29= Kyoto University Japan 99 89 83 90 29 24 87.2
26 18 Ecole Normale Supérieure, Paris France 91 60 83 98 61 81 87.1
27 22 University of Melbourne Australia 100 99 64 70 64 95 85.9
28 37 Ecole Polytechnique France 76 94 100 78 70 94 85.1
29 42 Northwestern University US 88 97 77 91 35 68 85.0
30 40 University of Manchester UK 88 99 77 70 84 85 84.7
31 35= University of Sydney Austraila 99 95 51 71 100 95 84.6
32 54= Brown University US 90 77 74 89 75 58 84.5
33= 50= University of British Columbia Canada 100 91 70 74 35 63 84.3
33= 45 University of Queensland Austraila 95 94 70 68 79 76 84.3
33= 19= National University of Singapore Singapore 100 93 34 84 100 100 84.3
36 14 Peking University China 100 98 98 53 32 26 84.2
37 64= University of Bristol UK 81 98 85 77 88 72 84.1
38= 50= Chinese University of Hong Kong Hong Kong 83 79 80 80 100 85 83.8
38= 29= University of Michigan US 99 96 53 89 41 52 83.8
40 28 Tsinghua University China 95 92 100 59 20 36 83.3
41 31 University of California, Los Angeles US 100 92 56 91 20 36 82.8
42 24 ETH Zurich Switzerland 92 75 61 74 100 92 82.5
43 38 Monash University Australia 98 97 53 57 99 99 82.1
44 41 University of New South Wales Australia 97 98 39 76 89 91 81.8
45 27 University of Toronto Canada 100 96 21 93 86 50 80.6
46 =70 Osaka University Japan 83 75 86 91 17 29 80.0
47 66 Boston University US 91 89 49 88 29 88 79.7
48 69 University of Amsterdam Netherlands 84 81 81 70 76 32 78.6
49 43 New York University US 95 93 48 77 29 49 77.8
50 46= University of Auckland New Zealand 95 83 38 61 100 99 77.5 -
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This year we have the opinions of 5,101 experts, of whom 41 per cent are in Europe, the Middle East and Africa, 30 per cent in the Americas, and 29 per cent in the Asia-Pacific region. This includes respondents from 2005 and 2006 whose data have been aggregated with new responses from this year. No data more than three years old is used, and only the most recent data is taken from anyone who has responded more than once.
A further 10 per cent of the possible score in these rankings is derived from active recruiters of graduates. QS asks major global and national employers across the public and private sectors which universities they like to hire from. This yearÂ’s sample includes 1,471 people, with 43 per cent in the Americas, 32 per cent in Europe and 25 per cent in Asia-Pacific. -
Wot you think.....Singapore wants money.........the only way they can invest on with the university is its Students..........Originally posted by noahnoah:Nowdays schools also bother about ranking liao
next time like stock market
go up and down
No student=No money......... -
According to discipline for top 50:
Natural Sciences - NUS made it to 25th ranking. NTU - out
Life Sciences Biomedicine - NUS - 12 , NTU - out
Technology - NUS - 10 ,NTU - 25
Social Sciences - NUS - 20 , NTU - out
Arts and Humanities - NUS -21 , NTU - out
International Top 10 for peer review, employer review and international staff- the rest I cannot be bothered.
Peer Review
NUS - out
NTU - out
Employer Review
NUS - out
NTU- out
International Staff
NUS -10
NTU - out -
NUS is internationally known for law and medicine.Originally posted by eagle:NUS was never really that good. It cannot provide good enough challenges to the better students.
So really I won't say it is not that good. It has a different focus. -
lecturers in NUS can't even be bothered about their students... they stand in front of the lecture theatre reading out whats on the powerpoint slides rather than explaining it detail with their experiences on the topics they have covered...
NUS claims that they will strive to be a professional research institute or something like that, but the students are forced to scram back to their books just because the majority foreign lecturers can't speak in comprehensible english.
If NUS were to reach professionalism in research, is it because the books are professionally done, or is it that the lecturers and researchers are good educators? -
A good university always focuses first on recruiting talented lecturers to help students develop their potential to become great students. Would you join a university that helps normal students become great, and great students become excellent...or somewhere which spends their resources recruiting great students from the beginning? I would say that the first one is a good investment, while the second one doesn't really do anything to add value to the students.Originally posted by nakshire:lecturers in NUS can't even be bothered about their students... they stand in front of the lecture theatre reading out whats on the powerpoint slides rather than explaining it detail with their experiences on the topics they have covered...
NUS claims that they will strive to be a professional research institute or something like that, but the students are forced to scram back to their books just because the majority foreign lecturers can't speak in comprehensible english.
If NUS were to reach professionalism in research, is it because the books are professionally done, or is it that the lecturers and researchers are good educators? -
Note that your lecturers in NUS have other commitments too. Like you said, NUS strives to be a professional research institute. If your lecturers spend *most* of their time on educating/coaching/teaching students, when will they have time to do research?Originally posted by nakshire:lecturers in NUS can't even be bothered about their students... they stand in front of the lecture theatre reading out whats on the powerpoint slides rather than explaining it detail with their experiences on the topics they have covered...
NUS claims that they will strive to be a professional research institute or something like that, but the students are forced to scram back to their books just because the majority foreign lecturers can't speak in comprehensible english.
If NUS were to reach professionalism in research, is it because the books are professionally done, or is it that the lecturers and researchers are good educators?
Don't forget, it is "publish or perish" for those lecturers.
In fact, lecturers are often most happy during semester break. That is when they can concentrate on their research. -
You need to sign up for THES subscription.Originally posted by jondizzle foshizzle:Is there a list on the internet somewhere? Can't find it please post. -
NUS lecturers are more interested in their own research and most of them dont really care about teaching.
The end of the semester lecturers' appraisal is just for show. Even if a lecturer is rated very badly, he wont be sacked by NUS as long as he does lots of research. Even if a lecturer is rated highly by his students, he will still be shown the doors at the end of his contract if he hardly make any contribution in the research area.
In NUS: No publish/research done-->byebye for research staff. Anyway, their main job is to research, not teach. They only serve as a guide for students. -
I think they have made changes in the last 2/3 years. Now there are staff whose primary focus is research and less emphasis on teaching and vice-versa.Originally posted by HyuugaNeji:NUS lecturers are more interested in their own research and most of them dont really care about teaching.
The end of the semester lecturers' appraisal is just for show. Even if a lecturer is rated very badly, he wont be sacked by NUS as long as he does lots of research. Even if a lecturer is rated highly by his students, he will still be shown the doors at the end of his contract if he hardly make any contribution in the research area.
In NUS: No publish/research done-->byebye for research staff. Anyway, their main job is to research, not teach. They only serve as a guide for students.
Anyway, I still much prefer NUS to NTU. NTU is like a mini-PRC. ewe! -
Ya now they are even more focused on research.Originally posted by adetet:I think they have made changes in the last 2/3 years. Now there are staff whose primary focus is research and less emphasis on teaching and vice-versa.
Anyway, I still much prefer NUS to NTU. NTU is like a mini-PRC. ewe!
If NTU is like a mini-PRC, then NUS is a major-PRC. NUS has more foreigns students than singaporeans if you count honours years and upwards. -
And South East Asian Studies + the PostColonial/Subaltern Studies field.Originally posted by fymk:NUS is internationally known for law and medicine.
So really I won't say it is not that good. It has a different focus. -
its a new type of judging, NUS aint familiar
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Actually, that's not true. NUS used to have quite a high entry requirement to get in. Due to government encouraging NUS to open up more spaces for locals and foreigners to study, NUS's entry standard dropped, eg Engineering's entry standard from last time A-level score of A,B,B to B,C,C i think.Originally posted by mortified:its a new type of judging, NUS aint familiar
With more students now, it will obviously lead to a bad staff to student ratio. Same for NTU. Imagine if SMU didnt get going, can you guess how horrifying the staff to student ratio in NUS and NTU will be?