Sudan charges British teacher over teddy bear
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im a muslim.strict kind la dont drink dont club those kind.but a typical singaporean.
i think Sudan is being an idiot la seriously.they are finding a scapegoat from england to vent their frustrations on la.but seriously, Islam is not like how it looks right now.
i dont know why these sudanese ppl are like that.i dont know why osama is like that.if i meet osama i will personally beat him to death.seriously.these ppl are damaging Islam's name and the West are blowing the news out of proportions,which,readers like you and i tend to absorb very easily without thinking.
I hope most of you will think twice b4 having the mindset of Islam is a violent religion when reading these news.its not like that at all...
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What? She is an infidel, a woman and she is uncovered in all of her pics while being in an Islamicstate. She should have been hauled into jail a long time ago.Originally posted by hloc:It just seems strange to me that a person is going to jail for naming a toy bear even though that name is very common among Muslim...... Maybe some of the others are right, that the whole thing is mainly because the teacher is a white AngMor from England......
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My dua sen....
What the teacher did amounts to a cultural faux pas at most. Nothing more.
Okay, the teacher was a little ignorant on what she should have done and what she shouldn't have done. So they should just kindly educate her on what's acceptable and what's not. Why the need to haul her to court and press charges?
Sheesh.... if I had the chance, I'd knock those judges' heads with a really huge mallet..... those imbeciles are doing more damage to Islam instead of preserving it. -
And a fitting and funny tribute to the demagogues of faith:Originally posted by fudgester:Sheesh.... if I had the chance, I'd knock those judges' heads with a really huge mallet..... those imbeciles are doing more damage to Islam instead of preserving it.
I too was present there and could not hold my tongue
When the Lord ordered the Mullah to Paradise!
Said I, "Lord! Forgive my boldness but
He will not be please with the houris and the flasks of wine
Paradise is not the place of 'He said' and 'They said'
Argument and disputation is this pious man's trade!
To bring disunity to the nation and the people is his work
And Paradise contains neither mosque, nor church, nor temple!"
- Literal translation of Iqbal's "The Mullah and Paradise" -
British Sudanese defends teacher
Saturday, 1 December 2007, 12:37 GMT
Dr Hassan is offended by the government, not Mrs Gibbons
The imprisonment in Sudan of a British teacher for insulting Islam has led once again to images of angry Muslims splashed across the newspapers.
But according to one British Sudanese Muslim scholar, this is not the true face of Islam and their anger is not shared by Muslims in Britain.
Dr Imad Hassan, 45, is a Sudanese doctor and writer with a PhD in comparative religious studies who has lived in Britain since 1991.
He feels that someone from the Sudanese community must speak out against the ruling, and is planning to organise a protest from fellow scholars.
"I feel insulted as a Muslim by the government of Sudan, not by Mrs Gibbons," he told the BBC. "Describing the lovely children's toy with the name of Muhammad is a compliment, it is not an insult.
'Political motivation'
"If my own son calls a teddy bear Muhammad I would not rebuke him, let alone a non-Muslim teacher accepting children's natural lovely choice.
"The Arabs use lots of wild animals' names as human names. The name 'Hamza', the most beloved uncle of the prophet means 'lion' which is wilder than the bear.
"The prophet Muhammad himself in his lifetime has been insulted by so many people and he has forgiven them, so this is not Sharia law, it is politically motivated."
Dr Hassan says everyone he knows in the British Sudanese community feels the same way as he does.
"So far I haven't met somebody with a different view, either within the Islamic community or the Sudanese."
He also says he feels totally accepted in this country and believes non-Muslim Britons are too sophisticated to be drawn into knee-jerk anti-Muslim feeling.
"I've lived here for 16 years and I feel better as a Muslim here than in any Muslim country.
"Freedom is a fundamental value of Islam. In the Koran it says faith is a matter of choice - so people cannot have better faiths, it's a matter of choice."
Dr Hassan said he believed the Sudanese government was using the incident to demonstrate its hard-line stance and whip up outrage, and through it, popular support.
"Any insult or offence provokes an emotional reaction and they thought they may provoke the masses around them," he said.
"The people who were out on the streets yesterday were gathered from mosques around the city which are led by laymen, uneducated people.
"What we saw yesterday were poor people gathered from the city who are more emotionally motivated than intellectually."
Dr Hassan says he feels compelled to generate support for Mrs Gibbons among British Muslims.
"I will try my best to motivate Muslim scholars to speak out to show the original conviction was unfounded... to show that there was no insult to the Prophet and clear her name.
"I feel a sense of responsibility. I would like to send my apologies to her family on the behalf of the Sudanese nation."
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Last time fight over oil , peace or freedom
etc
Soon might over a "bear"
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Originally posted by noahnoah:Last time fight over oil , peace or freedom
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Soon might over a Teddy "bear" -
BOKU WA KUMA
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Sigh, this is so sad. I feel sorry for the teacher.
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Quite a stir in the international community...
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me was darn infuriated when me read the news.
dos ppl deserve to b discriminated against. -
this wan all politics lah
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I was like "Not again"..Originally posted by buffered:im a muslim.strict kind la dont drink dont club those kind.but a typical singaporean.
i think Sudan is being an idiot la seriously.they are finding a scapegoat from england to vent their frustrations on la.but seriously, Islam is not like how it looks right now.
i dont know why these sudanese ppl are like that.i dont know why osama is like that.if i meet osama i will personally beat him to death.seriously.these ppl are damaging Islam's name and the West are blowing the news out of proportions,which,readers like you and i tend to absorb very easily without thinking.
I hope most of you will think twice b4 having the mindset of Islam is a violent religion when reading these news.its not like that at all...
Any Gods got to be bigger than this name-calling thingy, right?
Secondly, I do know a few muslim friends, and they never exhibit such behavior at all. They are sensable and knowledgeable.
however, on the other hand, we won't know what really happen that sparks such a huge outcry. So let's give it a bit of salt.. -
you never read the top posts ah.......Originally posted by iceFatboy:I was like "Not again"..
Any Gods got to be bigger than this name-calling thingy, right?
Secondly, I do know a few muslim friends, and they never exhibit such behavior at all. They are sensable and knowledgeable.
however, on the other hand, we won't know what really happen that sparks such a huge outcry. So let's give it a bit of salt..
the sudanese doctor said those people who was urged to protest are all uneducated poor people.......
these are all politics you know.....
these people are paid to held demos......
in indonesia last time got alot of demos to the opposition wan that wan all they kena paid to do it wan -
Sudan pardons British teacher, to be freed in hour
KHARTOUM - SUDANESE President Omar al-Bashir on Monday agreed to pardon a British teacher jailed here after she allowed her students to name a teddy bear Muhammad.
'The president has told us he has already signed the papers for her pardon,' Lord Nazir Ahmed told reporters after a meeting with Mr al-Bashir at his presidential palace.
He and Baroness Sayeeda Warsi, a fellow Muslim representative from Britain's House of Lords, met with Mr al-Bashir to plea for Gillian Gibbons' pardon.
Sudanese presidential spokesman Mahzoub Faidul told The Associated Press that Ms Gibbons would 'be released today and will fly back to England today.'
In a written statement released by the presidential palace and read by Baroness Warsi to reporters, 54-year-old Gibbons said she was sorry if she caused any 'distress'.
'I have a great respect for the Islamic religion and would not knowingly offend anyone,' Ms Gibbons, who has been imprisoned since Thursday, said in the statement.
'I am looking forward to seeing my family and friends, but I am very sorry that I will be unable to return to Sudan,' the statement read.
http://www.straitstimes.com/Latest%2BNews/World/STIStory_182949.html