Low Pay?
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I always read and hear people saying things like "The company only pay me 2k a month. So low pay. What for I work so hard for them"
Many thoughts came across my mind when I hear these statements.
"2k is considered low pay? How many thousands of ppl in singapore are getting less than 2k a month and you are still complaining?"
"What qualifications and experience do you have to say that 2k a month is low?
If you are a degree holder with lots of experience than I agree that 2k is low.
If you are a degree holder and a fresh graduate I will say that 2k is ok.
If you are a diploma holder with lots of experience 2k is a ok salary too
If you are a diploma holder and a fresh graduate 2k is considered as a high salary.
If you are holding O level and below qualification, I will say that 2k is a VERY HIGH SALARY ALREADY
"Are you doing alot of work and free OT for the company? If not, you still got the cheek to complain that 2k is low? If yes I agree that you have the right to complain"
"What positions are you holding in the company? If you are holding a low position, than why are you still complaining that 2k is low?"
"Are you really that good? I doubt so. If you are really that good and you find 2k a month is low salary, why don't you resign to find a better job? You say 2k a month is low and yet you never go and find a higher salary job. Is it because you know that you are lousy and you can't find a better job outside so you lan lan suck thumb stay in the company and everyday complain and demoralise the other staffs too?
Perhaps it is time for these people to reflect on themself before they complain that their salary is low. -
Depend on the increment, if u got 2k now and every year u add $50 and 10yr later u get 2.5k and by the time u reach 50yrs old maybe u get 3.8k so u think it's ok?
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Since a long while ago, a honours degree fresh graduate has a starting pay of around 3k.Originally posted by yimkim:If you are a degree holder and a fresh graduate I will say that 2k is ok. -
If the market inflation can justify a 3.8k paid in 30 years time, why not?Originally posted by T.Ryousuke:Depend on the increment, if u got 2k now and every year u add $50 and 10yr later u get 2.5k and by the time u reach 50yrs old maybe u get 3.8k so u think it's ok? -
And most of these old honour degree holders are now MD or president of companies earning more than 30k per month. Today graduates not only start with lower paid, but the careers prospect may only bring them to be a manager or an enginneer, or the most a senior one. They still need to struggle with money to maintain as middle income family.Originally posted by eagle:Since a long while ago, a honours degree fresh graduate has a starting pay of around 3k. -
Are you really that good? If not what makes you think you deserve to have more than $50 increment a year?Originally posted by T.Ryousuke:Depend on the increment, if u got 2k now and every year u add $50 and 10yr later u get 2.5k and by the time u reach 50yrs old maybe u get 3.8k so u think it's ok?
From the boss pov, are you worth paying more than $50 increment a year? -
I am talking about a general degree which you get after studying 3 years in nus,ntu etc.Originally posted by eagle:Since a long while ago, a honours degree fresh graduate has a starting pay of around 3k. -
Let say a typical worker earns 2k, with 20% CPF contribution, he/she take home only $1600, and with employer's CPF that contribute 13%, he/she would had a total CPF of abt $650 credited into the CPF account.
Today HDB house cost at average (if i am not wrong) $350k, it will take he/she abt 44 years of working to meet that amount to paid fully for the house, and in respect of annual salary increment, this will be offset by the interest you have to pay to bank.
So guys, 2k enough or not? if so, at the end of the day, your CPF is zero with no minimium sum at all ya. -
hi pal:
if u earn 2k per mth n spend 4k !!!
sure low pay wat
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It's wat I want to say, look like we r talking to kid.Originally posted by angel7030:So guys, 2k enough or not? if so, at the end of the day, your CPF is zero with no minimium sum at all ya. -
Ya, me still a kid learning about financial management.Originally posted by T.Ryousuke:It's wat I want to say, look like we r talking to kid. -
Buy yr own flat and work till u die.Originally posted by angel7030:Ya, me still a kid learning about financial management. -
i dunno whether the TS is talking about me ............cos I have posted I was paid a low 2K a month in another thread , ya in my previous job squeezed dry , i was doing three person job and alway work free OT daily incl weekend. Even my subordinate who is eglible for OT pay ,end up having higher gross pay than me after claiming his OT , 'responsibility' got the better of me and I thot it was my responsibility to finsih and ensure the work are done. In the end, my hard work was not even recongnise or appreciated and my shameless boss even stole the credit from the hard work i put in and malign me for wrong I did not do. ( Things I thot it only happen in movie but happened in real life to me)
I have since switched job and the pay is 1.5 times better and I work normal hours 9 to 5 only with better boss and colleague .. I can only cursed the unscrupulous people I have met and hope they receive their dessert soon !! -
now u make me scared to grow up...Originally posted by T.Ryousuke:Buy yr own flat and work till u die. -
agreed.Originally posted by Daisuke-kun:now u make me scared to grow up...
strike toto. . . .
HUAT AH!!! -
I think it's naive to imagine that a worker can coast through till retirement with $50 increments every year till he retires ....
what's stopping the company from replacing you with another fresh graduate or a cheap "foreign talent" after you hit 3k in pay and become an expensive liability instead ? ... -
Cannot agree more , when I was younger I was naive and was loyal to my company, think about your future that the most impt , the coy will get rid of you after you become their excess fat , even you have rich job expereice , they can still employ a cheap FT with exp to replace you !Originally posted by Fatum:what's stopping the company from replacing you with another fresh graduate or a cheap "foreign talent" after you hit 3k in pay and become an expensive liability instead ? ... -
reality, be contented with pay and work smart.. better dun make ur colleage(s) hate you, and low profile.
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Yeah, as most of my seniors said, in the end, the govt profit all.Originally posted by T.Ryousuke:Buy yr own flat and work till u die.
Tho they asked us not to spend, but encourage us to invest in property, shares and even start up, which some lost till nothing, then they tax us like hell, then they play with the car prices and lure you to buy, then they tell us we are the elites, high standard living peoples who go orchard, drink starbuck coffee, eat at top restaurants, leading us into luxury homes, cars, maid and fashions to show off against each other, then we paid all the GST and service taxes.
In the end, even with a 10k paid per month living in a condo costing 1 million, a 2.0 car, a maid, a family of 4 also have to struggle to maintain the kaisu elite image of the high standard of living and an knowledge economy of SIngapore -
Dun worry die liao, we will burn one luxury house for you.Originally posted by Daisuke-kun:now u make me scared to grow up...