Nine dead in US mall shooting
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OMAHA, Nebraska (Reuters) - A gunman opened fire inside a crowded shopping mall in Omaha, Nebraska, on Wednesday, killing eight people and then himself, police said.
Five people were wounded in the rampage at the Westroads Mall, two of them critically, according to hospital spokesmen. One man with a chest wound was in surgery.
Witnesses reported hearing as many as two dozen gunshots, telling a local television station the gunman shot one man in the head from a third-floor balcony and others at point-blank range as he moved through the mall.
"It was horrible, just horrible," one woman told KETV, saying she hid under a clothes rack when the shooting started.
Another witness at the mall, busy with pre-Christmas shoppers, said she heard someone shout: "It's a gunman, run!"
Most of the victims were shot inside one department store and the motive for the rampage was still being investigated, said Sgt. Teresa Negron of the Omaha Police Department.
"We do not believe that we have any other shooter," she told reporters. "The person we believe to be the shooter has died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound."
Mass shootings periodically shock the United States, where gun ownership is widespread and the right to bear arms is a hotly contested constitutional issue.
In mid-April, Virginia Tech university became the site of the deadliest shooting rampage in modern U.S. history when a student killed 32 people and then himself.
In October 2006, a milk truck driver tied up and shot 10 Amish schoolgirls in their classroom in Pennsylvania, killing five of them before turning the gun on himself.
According to KETV in Omaha, the county sheriff's office said it was given a note involving a 19-year-old man that could be interpreted as "suicidal." The note was found by someone after the shooting, although it was not clear where.
One woman told KETV she saw the gunman firing into the air inside the department store.
"I saw the guy in the children's department. He was tall, real tall," she said. "He had his hand straight up in the air, just shooting, not saying anything."
Jeffrey Peck, manager of a leather goods store, said mall workers ran up to tell him to close up his store.
"I told the customer to go into the back room and, as I was shutting the gate, I heard two gunshots ring out," he said.
Some of those shot were waiting in line to get Christmas presents wrapped at Von Maur, an upscale department store and one of the anchors of the mall.
Shoppers and store workers were trapped inside the mall, which has roughly 135 stores, and huddled behind locked doors or inside dressing rooms. Others streamed out of mall exits with their hands raised.
President George W. Bush gave an address in Omaha on Wednesday morning but had left the city hours before the incident. -
They boy who did this has a very sad background.
He dropped out of school.
Got kicked out of his home.
No where to go.
Was taken in by a good samaritan.
Worked in a fast food restaurant.
Something happened at work and I think he lost his job.
Gave up on life, and took more along.
In his letter to the one who took him in.
He apologies, that he didn't want it to end this way.
He felt he was a loser with nothing to look forward to, now he'll be famous.
The lady was interviewed and with tears in her eyes she said " I thought things are finally looking up for him, then this happens."
So people.
Please give others a chance. Don't be mean.
When a person is facing desperate times, extend your helping hand, NOT drop more stone to bury him. -
Sad... everytime I read this type of news I feel damn sad for the people who have died...
I was even more sad when I read the last line, the shooter should have killed him, will get him even more famous.. -
This was in the news just now.
The lady who took him in,
""He had said how much he loved his family and all his friends and how he was sorry he was a burden to everybody and his whole life he was a piece of (expletive) and now he'll be famous," -
Is it the shooter who shot himself? Or was it the society killed him? Or did he killed the society?
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I hope this would prove to be a wake up call for those who still believe in a civilian's "right to bear arms"
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He was thinking of shooting himself.Originally posted by annoy-you-must:Is it the shooter who shot himself? Or was it the society killed him? Or did he killed the society?
Then the society puts a gun to his head.
Then the shooter decides if I am to die, you come along with me. -
There is nothing wrong with the believe.Originally posted by DriftingGuy:I hope this would prove to be a wake up call for those who still believe in a civilian's "right to bear arms"
It was to prevent the government from becoming a draconian state.
If the government has the sole right to carry arms, then how can the civilians fight back ? With hammers and kitchen knifes ?
Civilians will have the ability to fight and protect themselves against governing oppressors. -
Whether he shot himself or someone shot him, it is still the society, 2 years ago, when i was doing my GP papers on America society, one topic that stand me out was the consitutional on armoury possesion, State laws differentiate in between each states in the laws of the right to buy a gun or weapon for personnal protection. A normal person, 21yo and above can walk into a gun n rifle shop to buy a gun, sign his ID, and the purpose: for protection. His ID will then be registered with the PD.Originally posted by annoy-you-must:Is it the shooter who shot himself? Or was it the society killed him? Or did he killed the society?
Many rightist groups have call upon the govt to abolish the gun laws, but no senators have yet push it through, so every now and then, you can see crazy, depressed, psycho peoples killing innocent peoples. Now, who is to blame, he or the society???
In our society, anyone carrying a weapon is liable to be life imprison or death sentence, this deter the offenders, but if Singapore is allowed to purchase Gun and weapons, what will it be like??? Just imagine.... -
He posted somewhere he was going to kill people in that specific mall, what rifle he was bringing and going to end his life in stlye. And beat cho's(guy from vtech massacre) high score(number of people killed).
Yet the replies were "Do it Faggot Do IT!"....
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Perhaps if Singaporeans are allowed to purchase guns and utilize it in a lawful and responsible manner.Originally posted by angel7030:Whether he shot himself or someone shot him, it is still the society, 2 years ago, when i was doing my GP papers on America society, one topic that stand me out was the consitutional on armoury possesion, State laws differentiate in between each states in the laws of the right to buy a gun or weapon for personnal protection. A normal person, 21yo and above can walk into a gun n rifle shop to buy a gun, sign his ID, and the purpose: for protection. His ID will then be registered with the PD.
Many rightist groups have call upon the govt to abolish the gun laws, but no senators have yet push it through, so every now and then, you can see crazy, depressed, psycho peoples killing innocent peoples. Now, who is to blame, he or the society???
In our society, anyone carrying a weapon is liable to be life imprison or death sentence, this deter the offenders, but if Singapore is allowed to purchase Gun and weapons, what will it be like??? Just imagine....
Our gahmen will listen to the people more. -
top post was hisOriginally posted by FUU:He posted somewhere he was going to kill people in that specific mall, what rifle he was bringing and going to end his life in stlye. And beat cho's(guy from vtech massacre) high score(number of people killed).
Yet the replies were "Do it Faggot Do IT!"....
smh
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Indeed it has.Originally posted by DriftingGuy:I hope this would prove to be a wake up call for those who still believe in a civilian's "right to bear arms"
If more upstanding citizens were encouraged to obtain handgun carry permits, perhaps one of them could have taken down the mall shooter and reduced the casualty count. -
He will become a horrible ghost who brings darkness to the mall .. he will Haunt the Mall with vengeful !!!
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Weapons are inanimate objects. The problem we need to solve is humanity.
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Humanity problem start since adam and eve, it cannot be solve, but it can be controlled by laws and order.Originally posted by ArdusKane:Weapons are inanimate objects. The problem we need to solve is humanity.
Given a weapon, it get worst, it has become an avenue for human to flush their anger, craziness, disppointment and depression among the innocent where no human problem lies. -
Looking at some of the replies to the threads in AA in sgF itself, I'm not suprised.Originally posted by FUU:He posted somewhere he was going to kill people in that specific mall, what rifle he was bringing and going to end his life in stlye. And beat cho's(guy from vtech massacre) high score(number of people killed).
Yet the replies were "Do it Faggot Do IT!"....
smh
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usa is a country of strong cowboy background, so u roughly can see their mindset.
for almost all US citizens, they have this notion of "if i have my own gun, i'll be safer".
in the end, everyone thinks like this and the country ends up being a time bomb.
also, not to forget, it's not possible for the usa to ban arms, cos' their gahmen get a huge chunk of profits from the arms sales, taxes etc.
it's like asking our singapore regime to ban cigars. u think that's possible?
in terms of arms and law / order, the usa has much to learn from us.
in fact, the only thing i'm proud of in SG is the awesome security here.
i can sleep at night in a park with my bank book and S$5000 on my chest and everything will still be intact when i wake up next morning. -
So...which park to you sleep in?Originally posted by Nikar2:usa is a country of strong cowboy background, so u roughly can see their mindset.
for almost all US citizens, they have this notion of "if i have my own gun, i'll be safer".
in the end, everyone thinks like this and the country ends up being a time bomb.
also, not to forget, it's not possible for the usa to ban arms, cos' their gahmen get a huge chunk of profits from the arms sales, taxes etc.
it's like asking our singapore regime to ban cigars. u think that's possible?
in terms of arms and law / order, the usa has much to learn from us.
in fact, the only thing i'm proud of in SG is the awesome security here.
i can sleep at night in a park with my bank book and S$5000 on my chest and everything will still be intact when i wake up next morning. -
thats really really sadOriginally posted by jojobeach:They boy who did this has a very sad background.
He dropped out of school.
Got kicked out of his home.
No where to go.
Was taken in by a good samaritan.
Worked in a fast food restaurant.
Something happened at work and I think he lost his job.
Gave up on life, and took more along.
In his letter to the one who took him in.
He apologies, that he didn't want it to end this way.
He felt he was a loser with nothing to look forward to, now he'll be famous.
The lady was interviewed and with tears in her eyes she said " I thought things are finally looking up for him, then this happens."
So people.
Please give others a chance. Don't be mean.
When a person is facing desperate times, extend your helping hand, NOT drop more stone to bury him.
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Where did you get these source from? Can link coz i wanted to read more and understand the physological behavior and thoughts of such people...Originally posted by jojobeach:They boy who did this has a very sad background.
He dropped out of school.
Got kicked out of his home.
No where to go.
Was taken in by a good samaritan.
Worked in a fast food restaurant.
Something happened at work and I think he lost his job.
Gave up on life, and took more along.
In his letter to the one who took him in.
He apologies, that he didn't want it to end this way.
He felt he was a loser with nothing to look forward to, now he'll be famous.
The lady was interviewed and with tears in her eyes she said " I thought things are finally looking up for him, then this happens."
So people.
Please give others a chance. Don't be mean.
When a person is facing desperate times, extend your helping hand, NOT drop more stone to bury him. -
(annoy you must)
So...which park to you sleep in?
no lah, just an analogy to show that SG is super safe.
the safest in the world. -
In America there is still much rural and isolated countryside. The nearest neighbour could be miles away. Police response may seem like forever if someone is in trouble. Americans are very particular about home turf privacy. Against intruders or wild animals that might threaten the livestock, guns are a must for some people.
So what if Singapore forbids gun ownership? People who deserve to die can still be cut into pieces. However, IÂ’m against animal abuseÂ…hee -
In America there is still much rural and isolated countryside. The nearest neighbour could be miles away. Police response may seem like forever if someone is in trouble. Americans are very particular about home turf privacy. Against intruders or wild animals that might threaten the livestock, guns are a must for some people.
yes, but majority of folks living in US is in suburban area.
if guns are found in farms or forest lodges, no problem.....but a city like New York and Virginia where there's no animals and everything is in the public eye?
one can cut others into different pieces with a sword or knife, but a gun is a very different thing.
if the korean nerd in the virginia tech killings use a katana instead of a machine gun, u think he can kill 32 folks? it'll be a challenge for him to reach even 5.
unless he's ryu hayabusa from Ninja Gaiden. -
I think all the people who posted after him should be held accountable as well..you DO NOT encourage a person to take another person's life whether it be on the internet or face to face..they should all be considered accessories to murderOriginally posted by FUU:top post was his