Any evil hell-creating gods are unworthy of our worship. This is since any evil gods are more appropriately named as powerful devils and deamons.Originally posted by jondizzle foshizzle:It's not whether a God is worthy of your worship, that's like an ant asking whether you're worthy of it's attention. The question is are YOU worthy of that particular god?
so you are saying that if there is a god, he create hell and throw you in there he willl be evil?Originally posted by Phorum Noob:Any evil hell-creating gods are unworthy of our worship. This is since any evil gods are more appropriately named as powerful devils and deamons.
Well, this is what this forum is for what. Discuss and argue your points if you don't agree.Originally posted by crimson soldier:let people believe all they want lah. Argue so much for what.
In the end, if you are an agnostic like me or even an atheist, it doesn't freaking matter.
I don't think Hitler deserve to be in heaven but I do understand his hope and dreams.Originally posted by Deino:so you are saying that if there is a god, he create hell and throw you in there he willl be evil?
i think some people deserve hell becoz of their actions......
do you think adolf hitler deserve heaven?
dun worry so much lah... not say they cannot choose religion... its just say they should choose themselves when they grow older.. its so right....Originally posted by laurence82:I am like half half for it
Its like a double edged sword
What if such actions are seen to be persecution and breed religious fundamentalism?
Worse, it affects not just secular schools, but faith schools
In a way, its disturbing
you are assuming there is a heaven in the first place. If you assumption is wrong, its no point talking about your conclusion. Can you show us how you derive that there is a heaven in the first place?Originally posted by Deino:so you are saying that if there is a god, he create hell and throw you in there he willl be evil?
i think some people deserve hell becoz of their actions......
do you think adolf hitler deserve heaven?
Religion should not be respected and immune to criticism and examination just because it is granted the title of "RELIGION".
Any good idea(s) should be able to stand on its own merit, and respect earned because it deserves it, not because it IS religion and people might be offended by it.
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Originally posted by january:you are assuming there is a heaven in the first place. If you assumption is wrong, its no point talking about your conclusion. Can you show us how you derive that there is a heaven in the first place?
No need solid evidence just some good reasoning will do.
please do not change the topic of wot i was talking about to phorum noob....
besides.....this topic already too old i dun wanna talk about it....
if pyramid sales are illegal, any evangelist who preaches after you say 'no' should be illegal too...