Peeps crazy on internet shopping (international), I think you would have already heard but for those uninitiated, here's a shot....
http://blog.statcounter.com/?p=88
Excerpt from Statcounter's blog:
The Issue
We are having ongoing, critical problems with Paypal.In view of the complete lack of assistance from Paypal in this regard, we have decided that we have no option but to inform you, our members, about the facts of the situation. This will allow you to make an informed decision about whether to use (or whether to continue to use) Paypal.
Please note that these problems may arise not only in relation to payments made to StatCounter but in relation to ANY Paypal payments that you make. We hope that this post will equip you with the information necessary to make sure that YOU do not become another victim of this ongoing Paypal saga.
The Problems
On 15 May Paypal performed a site update - this is confirmed by Paypal here.After this date numerous problems were reported across the globe:
- The Paypal Handling Cart feature completely broke down - see update below
- Cross border payments could not be made as the drop down country list did not work - see update below
- Customers have been flooded with hundreds of duplicate subscription emails from Paypal - see update below
- Payments from Paypal are no longer associated with the relevant subscriptions - see update below
- Some customers have been and are being DOUBLE BILLED by Paypal
- Merchants have not been receiving instant payment notifications or failure notifications
- Merchants/customers are unable to cancel subscriptions - see update below
The main problem that we have with Paypal is NOT the list of issues above - we all know that errors happen - we are absolutely furious at the complete lack of acknowledgement or assistance from Paypal in relation to these matters.
At StatCounter we have tried phoning, emailing, posting on the Paypal forums… Many of our contacts are ignored, but even when we do get an answer all we are told is that “Upon review of your account, unfortunately we do not have a time frame for a resolution to your issue we are currently actively investigating your issue with subscriptions.” You can see our posts in the Paypal forums here and here.
It appears that all of these problems are the result of the update made by Paypal on 15 May. Typically, any software upgrades can be “rolled back” if they are found to be flawed. Paypal’s inability (unwillingness?) to do this does not bode well.
What does this mean for me as a StatCounter Paypal Subscriber?
Unfortunately, we will be unable to issue invoices to many of our customers who pay us via Paypal until such time as the above issues are resolved. This is because the “payment file” provided by Paypal and from which invoices are generated is incomplete.There is also a danger that you may be “double billed”. Please make sure to check your Paypal account to see if this happens. Although we would be delighted to sort out any double billing for you, in the current climate of confusion we are unsure whether WE are actually receiving the erroneously charged amounts. This means that WE are not currently able to refund any of these overpayments to you. We strongly believe that since this is a Paypal error, Paypal should rectify the situation - and leave us to focus again on our members rather than cleaning up a mess of Paypal’s making. Please do report any double billing to us and we will take action to report each case directly to Paypal.
Other StatCounter Upgrade Options
Please note that you can also make subscription payments to StatCounter using your credit card directly, by cheque or by electonic transfer to our bank.Conclusion
Folks - we sincerely regret any problems you are experiencing and assure you that we are doing our best to get all of these issues resolved for you. We strive to offer a high level of customer service and pride ourselves on being responsive to the needs and suggestions of our members. To have our hands “tied” in this way as a result of Paypal’s inaction is frustrating to say the least.These problems with Paypal have already cost us thousands of dollars. We continue to expend large amounts of time and resources on these issues - resources which we would much prefer to concentrate on improving the service we provide to you. We would be very grateful for your patience at this time as we wait for Paypal to resolve these issues.
We would also ask you to be patient with any of our fellow internet merchants experiencing difficulties with Paypal at this time.
P/S: I must say I used Paypal only once or twice and it went ok. It was about just a few months before the fiasco happened. I do frequent international online shopping and have opted for other more reliable payment methods.
Good Luck!
Western union ah
i using pp for years, also no problem. only sometimes if you deal with dishonest people, they can claim their money back after dunno how many days of transfer, if they report say you cheat their money.
western union i think its more secure in other sense..
How come still using Western Union?? Why not credit card? At least there's some form of insurance. No?
i only know payme, never use paypal...why u need to pay your pal??? let them paid you lah. Hmmm...pples are real crazy??
I think the main question is...is this thing solved yet?
I haven't been actively using paypal yet...but the links that are posted by TS are all deleted...zzz
Originally posted by newcomer:erm cuz we pay for goods or services bought online?
maybe for ur case ppl pay u because u offer ur services.
Then u can be the service provider lah, why let other provide you service??