Rental Agreement.
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in my rental agreement. it stated:
1 - Min 3 mths stay to get back deposit.
2 - 1 mth notice to woner if i plan to move out.
lets say i move in may 4th, min 3 mths will be august 4th.
so i give notice at june 27th tht i moving out at july 27. = 1 mth notice
who knw the agent told me tht i need to stay 3 months min, another 1 month notice so i can get back deposit.
which this is not listed in the agreement.
i need someone who study law to give me advice.
if needed i will IMG the agreement.
thank you.
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you didn't stay for at least 3 months what.. still 8 day short..
by rights you still cannot get your deposit back ma..
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3 months u know how to calculate one or not?
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ok tht i understand, wat if i stay till 1st of august.
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ok , key point is agent told me,
need another 1 month notice, which meann 3 mths stay + 1 month notice - 4mths.
in the agreement, it never say 1 month notice given within the 3 months min stay period not countable.
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never post image of contract to show us.
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if u have the B&W, u can contest. (make sure u read fine print 1001 times and u are sure u are right)
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but then again even if you have black and white, you still need to initiate the motion, because your deposit is with him/her.
depending on the amount (judging from the ambiguity of your contract, most likely it's small, because big amounts have copious contracts), maybe you can go small claims tribunal to lodge an application for your case to be heard.
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just give ur 1mth notice on the 5th of july.. den u stay till 5th of august.. = 3mth stay, 1 mth notice both satisfied..
unless they say cannot simultaneous.. den too bad lo..
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If the landlord doesnt pay u back the deposit, keep everything in writing (the TA, the utility bills and other misc fees). You can't call the police in case it happens because the property belongs to the landlord and that may rule to her favour. Instead, engage a lawyer to take your case on "contingency" or the best is Pro Bono la.
Contingency means that the lawyer will only get paid if you win your case. Also, the judge can order your landlord to pay for your attorney fees where the landlord kept your deposit "wrongfully."
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aiyo, if i were you, just stay until august 3, the rental will be 7 days extra.
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ok, here is the story.
because the agent msg me this:
please take note.
after 2 (sorry is 3 months)months then 1 month notice. deposit will refund.
and i sure this is not listed in the agreement.
i reply her i will check with other agent.
then she reply me
please check
tht's piss me off.
just now i ask for her name and office number, but she never give me.
after half an hour she call me ask me what happen actually. ask y i ask for office number is it want to make a big hullaRRR??
so i confirm with her, are u sure tht it's a must to have another 1 month notice after 3 months min stay?
she say no..
and confirm tht i only need to stay for 3 months which is may,june and july to get back deposit.
The agent try to trick me.. wtf!
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ya la correct what.. just use my method lo..
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show us the agreement, you can blank out the names of parties involved to remain anonymous.
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actually i plan to move out 4th august, just nice 3 months.
but tht time is ghost month.
so i change to july 27.
although i understand tht if i move out 27th july, its not full 3months.
but which owner dont want the tenant move out asap after get the rental fee for tht month?
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It all depends on the crafting of the rental agreement. Industry practice is that you need to stay a minimum of 3 months before giving the 1 month notice, i.e. you stay a total of 4 months.
As I said, it all depends on how the actual agreement was crafted. You, being the tenant are at the losing end because the owner is holding your deposit. How do you think you are going to get back the deposit if you act tough with the owner... or the agent (but the agent doesn't seem very experienced).
Remember, you cannot go to court without the tenancy agreement (with stamp duty duly paid).
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Originally posted by natural_boy:
in my rental agreement. it stated:
1 - Min 3 mths stay to get back deposit.
2 - 1 mth notice to woner if i plan to move out.
lets say i move in may 4th, min 3 mths will be august 4th.
so i give notice at june 27th tht i moving out at july 27. = 1 mth notice
who knw the agent told me tht i need to stay 3 months min, another 1 month notice so i can get back deposit.
which this is not listed in the agreement.
i need someone who study law to give me advice.
if needed i will IMG the agreement.
thank you.
What laws, this is between your and your agents agreement, the laws only state if that room is eligible for rental or not, other than that you settle whatever agreement with the agent or tenant. -
When u hv agreed 2 rent d room, u hv 2 pay one mth deposit & do d 1st payment 2 d owner.
In all cases, either u or owner hv 2 gif each party one mth's notice if either one party dun wish 2 continue renting d room.
Lets say dat u rent on 15th Jun n u hv 2 stay min 3mths as per contract. So, it shld end on 15th Sep. But u hv placed one mth deposit oredi. Dats y rental agent wil encourage u 2 make 1mth's notice 2 owner, so d owner dun hv 2 return u d deposit n u juz stay put 4 another one more mth.
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ok,owner promise to refund the deposit on 4th august.
now i need an agreement letter, stated tht owner will refund the deposit.
why? because i dont think she will return cause she keep on borrowing cash from other tenants, SGD5 SGD10 SGD 50.
i'm not look down on her, just tht's the fact.
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Originally posted by natural_boy:
ok,owner promise to refund the deposit on 4th august.
now i need an agreement letter, stated tht owner will refund the deposit.
why? because i dont think she will return cause she keep on borrowing cash from other tenants, SGD5 SGD10 SGD 50.
i'm not look down on her, just tht's the fact.
If she dun hv honour, a thousand pieces of agreement letters she hv signed r all useless.If she not able 2 pay back ur deposit, then u hv 2 stay 4 another one mth 2 make ur money worth. She cannot argue wi u 'bout it.
By reading ur thread, i dun tink dat she wil hv d ability 2 refund u back as she hv 2 borrow money fr other tenants. Can see dat she hv financial difficulties now.
Sorry 2 say dat ur chances of getting ur money back is zero.
Btw, u dun hv d obligations 2 lend her money.
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If you think that she is not refunding you the deposit. Stay for one extra month without paying the rental!
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problem is i moving out to another room august.......................................
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Originally posted by Passive Income1:
If you think that she is not refunding you the deposit. Stay for one extra month without paying the rental!
yup... u r rite. -
Originally posted by Passive Income1:
If you think that she is not refunding you the deposit. Stay for one extra month without paying the rental!
yup... u r rite. -
Originally posted by natural_boy:
problem is i moving out to another room august.......................................
than that is your problem, the owner/agent part is very clear cut. One month notice, nothing more, nothing less. Put yourself into the owner position and look in that perspectives.