NUS vs NTU Engineering
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To those who studied any kind of engineering in both universities, which university's engineering (any kind) degree is considered more recognised & versatile? And why?
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i rmb one of them is top 10 in the world
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I guess it must be NUS, because all the NTU grad engineers I've come across, all abit sot one.
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I chose NTU Engine right after JC.
Then after 1 year of thinking in army, plus interviewing and asking around people (those girls) in both unis, I switched to NUS.
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i am not an engin grad.
but in my time, there is this (wrong) perception that if you are not a good enuf engin student, you go to ntu. it is a dilemma for many becos at that time, nobody wants to do civil engin due to its poorer prospects as compared to double e or mechanical, but to remain in nus, i have my fair share of hostel mates doing civil eng.
i also heard ntu is more `practically'(got such word?) inclined, whereas nus is more holistic.
but it is true during the 90s, nus grad commands higher pay than ntu grads.
however, in today's context, the degree, especially here in singapore, is just a door opener. a lot depends on your personality trait, ethics and how badly you want a certain job. so i guess, either one is fine if you are not dead on practicing what you learnt.
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NUS for medical/ law degree
NTU for engineering degree
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i am in ntu mech engine yaer 1 next monday!
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If you want overseas recognition, then NUS is a better brand name. Note that when NTU formed with MOE forcing hordes of NUS staff to switch over to NTU to teach/run the faculty so there's really not much difference in teaching quality. For that matter, the whole of NIE was originally part of NUS too. It is other factors like environment (one inst is like mini-China!), add-on activities, brand name recognition, prestige,etc.
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So there isn't a distinct style in the way they impart the engineering discipline to you?
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Go overseas better .
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Originally posted by -Wanderer-:
So there isn't a distinct style in the way they impart the engineering discipline to you?
To me, the answer is 'no'. I was from NTU and switched over to NUS. At the end of it, I am grateful that I had made that decision. Maybe you have a different experience and would like to share it. -
Go NTU if u wan china gf...
Go NUS if u wan singaporean gf.... * same rule applies to gal looking for bf as well *
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Originally posted by yongyong:
Go NTU if u wan china gf...
Go NUS if u wan singaporean gf.... * same rule applies to gal looking for bf as well *
lmao
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Originally posted by yongyong:
Go NTU if u wan china gf...
Go NUS if u wan singaporean gf.... * same rule applies to gal looking for bf as well *
NUS engine have as much foreigners as, if not more foreigner than NTU's.Are there more singaporeans girls taking NUS engine or NTU engine? This one i dunno but i know the entry requirement to get in NUS engine is at least A, B, B for A level whereas for NTU engine, the requirement is around B,B,C.
So if you want to get an easier first class honours, second upper honours, NTU is the recommendation since NUS and NTU engine are almost equally recognised in singapore.
If you are intending to work overseas for long periods, NUS will be more recognised overseas.
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what is lmao ?
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Originally posted by weewee:
NUS engine have as much foreigners as, if not more foreigner than NTU's.Are there more singaporeans girls taking NUS engine or NTU engine? This one i dunno but i know the entry requirement to get in NUS engine is at least A, B, B for A level whereas for NTU engine, the requirement is around B,B,C.
So if you want to get an easier first class honours, second upper honours, NTU is the recommendation since NUS and NTU engine are almost equally recognised in singapore.
If you are intending to work overseas for long periods, NUS will be more recognised overseas.
i was talking about china only.. not all foreigners..
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Yongyong, I know what you mean :) Weewee, I am not trying to be disagreeable. But the "easier to get first class honours, second upper honours" is another way of saying the standard is lower.
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Originally posted by icyboiz:
i rmb one of them is top 10 in the world
NUS --- no.33
NTU --- no.69
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NUS drops from 19 to 33 in global rankings This is due to a new way of scoring, said the group that compiled the ranking. -ST Sandra Davie Thu, Nov 08, 2007 The Straits Times THE National University of Singapore (NUS) took a tumble, from 19th spot to No. 33 this year, in the ranking of the world's top 200 universities published by The Times of London Higher Education Supplement on Thursday. However, this is due to a new way of scoring, said QS, the careers and education group that compiled the much-followed ranking. It said, with the change, NUS' previously high scores in certain categories such as the percentage of international faculty, did not give it much overall advantage this year. On the other hand, NUS' low score on staff- to-student ratio affected its ranking. Mr Nunzio Quacquarelli, managing director of London-based QS, said NUS continues to do well in all other categories. NUS improved its score this year for the number of academic citations faculty members notched up. It scored 84 out of 100 here. 'There is no doubt it is one of the elite universities of the world,' said Mr Quacquarelli. 'NUS and NTU's placing in the top 100 are recognition of the quality of education that Singapore's universities offer.' Nanyang Technological University (NTU) ranked No. 69 this year, down from its 61st spot last year. Singapore Management University is not ranked because of its specialisation in business. There are six categories. Forty per cent of the total score depends on what academics from around the world think of the universities; while global employers' keenness to recruit their graduates counts for 10 per cent. The numbers of foreign students and staff a university attracts are worth 5 per cent each; and the ratios of students to staff and academic citations to staff count for 20 per cent each. NUS president Shih Choon Fong said: 'NUS still has good standing' as one of the top 50 universities and as one of the top five in Asia. He said NUS will continue to 'enhance students' experience and push for world class research'. He pointed out that NUS' effort in improving research is already showing in the citation score. On the staff-student ratio, he said many universities in the United States have significantly higher budgets and endowments and can thus afford to keep their enrolments low and faculty counts high. He added: 'We don't want to go and hire more faculty just to boost the numbers. We want to ensure they are top quality in their field.' NUS currently has a 1,944-strong faculty, of which 52 per cent are from overseas. Harvard, Cambridge, Oxford and Yale universities maintained their top four positions for the second year. University College London and the University of Chicago join the top 10 for the first time. Apart from NUS, the London School of Economics was also affected by the scoring changes, dropping from 17th last year to 59th this year. Stanford fell from sixth to 19th. The universities of Tokyo, Hong Kong, Kyoto, Beijing, Chinese University of Hong Kong, Tsinghua and Osaka were other Asian institutions in this year's top 50. Mr Martin Ince, contributing editor of The Times Higher Education Supplement, noted: 'The 2007 rankings show that the US and UK model of independent universities supported with significant state funding, produces great results, but they also prove that academic excellence is found on every continent.'
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NTU ?
tsk tsk
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Originally posted by Pintoneo:
NUS drops from 19 to 33 in global rankings
This is due to a new way of scoring, said the group that compiled the ranking. -ST
Sandra DavieThu, Nov 08, 2007
The Straits TimesTHE National University of Singapore (NUS) took a tumble, from 19th spot to No. 33 this year, in the ranking of the world’s top 200 universities published by The Times of London Higher Education Supplement on Thursday.
However, this is due to a new way of scoring, said QS, the careers and education group that compiled the much-followed ranking.
It said, with the change, NUS’ previously high scores in certain categories such as the percentage of international faculty, did not give it much overall advantage this year.
On the other hand, NUS’ low score on staff- to-student ratio affected its ranking.
Mr Nunzio Quacquarelli, managing director of London-based QS, said NUS continues to do well in all other categories.
NUS improved its score this year for the number of academic citations faculty members notched up. It scored 84 out of 100 here.
‘There is no doubt it is one of the elite universities of the world,’ said Mr Quacquarelli.
‘NUS and NTU’s placing in the top 100 are recognition of the quality of education that Singapore’s universities offer.’
Nanyang Technological University (NTU) ranked No. 69 this year, down from its 61st spot last year. Singapore Management University is not ranked because of its specialisation in business.
There are six categories.
Forty per cent of the total score depends on what academics from around the world think of the universities; while global employers’ keenness to recruit their graduates counts for 10 per cent.
The numbers of foreign students and staff a university attracts are worth 5 per cent each; and the ratios of students to staff and academic citations to staff count for 20 per cent each.
NUS president Shih Choon Fong said: ‘NUS still has good standing’ as one of the top 50 universities and as one of the top five in Asia.
He said NUS will continue to ‘enhance students’ experience and push for world class research’. He pointed out that NUS’ effort in improving research is already showing in the citation score.
On the staff-student ratio, he said many universities in the United States have significantly higher budgets and endowments and can thus afford to keep their enrolments low and faculty counts high.
He added: ‘We don’t want to go and hire more faculty just to boost the numbers. We want to ensure they are top quality in their field.’
NUS currently has a 1,944-strong faculty, of which 52 per cent are from overseas.
Harvard, Cambridge, Oxford and Yale universities maintained their top four positions for the second year. University College London and the University of Chicago join the top 10 for the first time.
Apart from NUS, the London School of Economics was also affected by the scoring changes, dropping from 17th last year to 59th this year. Stanford fell from sixth to 19th.
The universities of Tokyo, Hong Kong, Kyoto, Beijing, Chinese University of Hong Kong, Tsinghua and Osaka were other Asian institutions in this year’s top 50.
Mr Martin Ince, contributing editor of The Times Higher Education Supplement, noted: ‘The 2007 rankings show that the US and UK model of independent universities supported with significant state funding, produces great results, but they also prove that academic excellence is found on every continent.’
When I just joined the forum i oso type one whole lot of things. Now kan pua lazy.
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Found this website:
http://www.physics.com.sg/uniranking.htm
Anyway, on the serious note, if you are not intending to work overseas, its probably better to study at NTU since both unis are equally recognised.
In NUS electrical engineering alone, about 66 students graduate with pass degree after studying 4 years.
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u can go to the best uni on earth..
but if u suck..
u suck...
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I think if you want an environment of less pressure, NTU would be better. Hear stories from some friends in NUS that in some courses, lecture halls would be so full that may have to even resort to sitting on the steps! You'll never find that in NTU.
Also, exam timetables in NTU are generally better spread out than NUS. It's like lets say you take the same number of modules for a similar course in both universities, NTU's exams will tend to spread over 2-3 weeks (unless you screw up by repeating too many subjects) but in NUS, chances are it'll be done and dusted in 1 week. So more stress loh. There's a saying that goes, in NUS, people ask one another, you get A or B for your subjects. In NTU, it is you got "pao" (repeat) your subject anot?
So, depends on what kind of person are you. If you excel under pressure, then NUS. If you need that little bit more time and space to do better, then NTU.
Note whatever I am saying does not take foreign students, who are more often than not some sort of scholars, into account. They exist in a non-parallel universe most of the time.
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Originally posted by bizzkit0102:
I think if you want an environment of less pressure, NTU would be better. Hear stories from some friends in NUS that in some courses, lecture halls would be so full that may have to even resort to sitting on the steps! You'll never find that in NTU.
Also, exam timetables in NTU are generally better spread out than NUS. It's like lets say you take the same number of modules for a similar course in both universities, NTU's exams will tend to spread over 2-3 weeks (unless you screw up by repeating too many subjects) but in NUS, chances are it'll be done and dusted in 1 week. So more stress loh. There's a saying that goes, in NUS, people ask one another, you get A or B for your subjects. In NTU, it is you got "pao" (repeat) your subject anot?
So, depends on what kind of person are you. If you excel under pressure, then NUS. If you need that little bit more time and space to do better, then NTU.
Note whatever I am saying does not take foreign students, who are more often than not some sort of scholars, into account. They exist in a non-parallel universe most of the time.
In NTU I have seen people taking 3 exams in 1 week...normal load...so it all depends on how U plan ur own timetable.
but the "pao" portion quite true.