Should prisoners have a record?
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Originally posted by Gedanken:
Pfft. Buy me a kopi-o the next time I'm in town and we'll call it even.
The difference between something like a disqualified-persons list and the job application for question is when and in what circumstances the inquiry can be made. For example, if someone has been convicted of fraud, a potential employer in the financial sector can make the enquiry under both systems. On the other hand, if the same person applied for a job at the at a McDonald's counter, the disqualified person's list would be inaccessible to the employer because, frankly, it's none of his business. In contrast, the McDonald's manager can ask the jail record question, which could put the applicant at a disadvantage.
let's say the macdonald's manager need a guy to be a cashier. he will be be ok with hiring the fraud convict, but he will not want him to be a cashier. the cashier might just give the meal to the customer, take the money, and not register the sales to the company, or come up with some way to abuse the system to commit fraud.
if the guy is found out, the manager will complain, why nobody tell him this guy was convicted for fraud?
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they should have a record..maybe Sgt Pepper or Yellow Submarine would be nice...as long not the 40s...early 60s or 70s records also have nice music like the Byrds and the Mamas and the Papas..
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Originally posted by skythewood:
let's say the macdonald's manager need a guy to be a cashier. he will be be ok with hiring the fraud convict, but he will not want him to be a cashier. the cashier might just give the meal to the customer, take the money, and not register the sales to the company, or come up with some way to abuse the system to commit fraud.
if the guy is found out, the manager will complain, why nobody tell him this guy was convicted for fraud?
You have been to a Macca's before, haven't you? The order's put through the register when the counter staff take an order. If the guy's stealing, it'll come up at the end of that day when the numbers are balanced, and he'll have to answer for it as much as anybody else who doesn't have a record.
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Originally posted by Gedanken:
You have been to a Macca's before, haven't you? The order's put through the register when the counter staff take an order. If the guy's stealing, it'll come up at the end of that day when the numbers are balanced, and he'll have to answer for it as much as anybody else who doesn't have a record.
Macca sounds like a country.
Fraud is not simple theft, but an elaborate plan to channel money away. mac has a system to prevent stealing. but fraudster will always come up with ways to break the system.
it will be to the manager's advantage to not place this guy in a position that is more dangerous.
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Originally posted by skythewood:
Macca sounds like a country.
Fraud is not simple theft, but an elaborate plan to channel money away. mac has a system to prevent stealing. but fraudster will always come up with ways to break the system.
it will be to the manager's advantage to not place this guy in a position that is more dangerous.
So what's the guy going to do, reprogram the cash register to break through Macca's central system and funnel funds to himself? Let's not get into wild fantasies here, sahll we?
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There is a system, there is a way to break it.
nice wild fantasies about breaking into a country's central system.
the employers knows about it, they will be able to take precautions about it.
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Originally posted by skythewood:
There is a system, there is a way to break it.
You'll understand that I'm not going to believe you unless you can present a realistic scenario of how the guy can commit fraud from the front counter of a McDonald's. Until then, without mincing words, your claims are far-fetched at best, and paranoid at worst.
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ya ya, it is impossible for anyone working in mac to commit fraud. absolutely impossible. if he is so good at being a fraud, he will just forged something and get a better job.
and if they do hire an ex con unknowingly, and something comes up, they will hold the authorities responsible for not informing them about the ex-cons. but don't worry, it is impossible for any employee to do commit fraud.
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Originally posted by skythewood:
ya ya, it is impossible for anyone working in mac to commit fraud. absolutely impossible. if he is so good at being a fraud, he will just forged something and get a better job.
Very good. It's about time you realised you were talking nonsense.
Or are you going to present a realistic scenario to show that you're not just paranoid?
Stop blustering and present some substance - you're starting to get boring.
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Originally posted by Gedanken:
I'm not old - I'm just grumpy.
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Originally posted by seotiblizzard:
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offense, but most old people are usually grumpy.Oi, seoti, you wanna kenna piak izzit?
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Originally posted by Gedanken:
Oi, seoti, you wanna kenna piak izzit?
. Sure, hahaha.U can piak me when u are back in town.
