Hey, maybe its reverse psychology.
Going by some people who behave like that, the guy probably does not want to ORD from SAF.![]()
I think a broken down SBS bus is more interesting to you mate.
Originally posted by ChingAlvin:
Huge difference!
Jehovah witnesses went against the "SAF"
This Hindu priest did serve without complains, just hope to be able to comply to his religious wishes!
JWs dont complain too..they too just wanna comply to their religious wishes..freedom of religion my arse..and btw, Jws serve DB gladly..they see it as paying back to caeser his own coin while standing in their faith..
Any Hindu Minister or MP looking into this matter?
DPM Jeyakumar? Anybody?
dude, a hindu priest is different from a normal hindu.
Becuase he is a priest, he cannot just eat any food. F4ck all the ignorant bastads here in this forum, Ple go and do yr research on a normal hindu and a brahmin hindu.
If Mindef caves in to this asshole they open the floodgates for all the other malingerers who decide to get a free ride using their religions.
Originally posted by xtreyier:
"sanctimonious bullshit?'What next? Hourly prayers? Holy water in bunks? Non-carrying of arms? Cannot Kill? Cannot perform guard duty? Cannot walk on unconsecreated ground? etc, etc. When will it end? And that's only for the Brahmin caste. What about the other indian castes of Kristhayas, craftsmen, untouchables? How about the muslims, toaist Chinese, confusionists, the other denominations of christians, etc, etc?
Might as well scrap NS. Close down the army. Save taxpayers money. Let any enemies walk all over our country. Let them take over our banks, our schools and determine who gets to study and who dont. Let them take control of our industries, and who gets employed and who dont. Let the rich flee. Let the poor Singaporeans who could not flee become slaves to the conquerors. Let their citizens get their perks while we become 6th rate slaves, etc, etc.
Let's all flee. I have an international passport. I have skills, talent and connections to live a good life in US. Do you? Does anyone else in Singapore have what I have? I am sure there are some like me. What about the rest?
What about Ah Seng, your mechanic who honestly fix up your car. What about Ah Lian, her rice noodles are always tasty as well as her winsome smile. What about Aunty Lim, who always dotes on you whenever you visit her, even though she is not related to you, only that she had been your teacher? What about John, your buddy who always invite you for a boy's nite out whenever you are down with fellow buddies? You wanna flee, and leave them to their fate?
Who the fuck is being sanctimonious and care about only himself now?
What's getting special food which is not even the typical good diet a normal Singaporean usually eats got to do with the caste system or whatever crap you spouting. The fella has already enlisted and did what is required for him as a Singaporean.
Its not as if he demanded something unachievable, like a caviar and champagne diet. It wont even cost SAF a cent.
Dont be over dramatic in suggesting to abolish NS just because a lad needs to eat a special diet. It sounds lame.
The SAF has already allowed certain religious requirements for servicemen, like the Muslims 5 times a day prayers and Friday prayers, provided it doesnt clash with training. Hindus are also allowed to excuse shaving when a death occurs or like some certain festivals. There are also Taoist who are allowed to wear amulets and Sikhs who allowed to wear a turban and go without helmet. Overall as long as it does not affect the ops readiness of the military, then i think his commanders should be flexible.
The last time i checked, the SAF serves to defend the country and people, and our people have different etnic backgrounds and religions. To deny this lad his religious right to eat what is required for him as a priest is just gonna alienate people who practise Hinduism. Dont equate asking for small provisions as a way of trying to keng or malinger.
Last point, the lad readily enlisted into the army and not escaping to some other countries or feinting illness. Unlike some faggot violinist who just paid a fine and forget about it.
Even I a vegan am not so strict and make myself suffer.Just have a normal vegetarian meal from the canteen will do.Don't make yourself suffer.
You should count your blessings that the army let you have vegetarian canteen food.Think about people in Africa starving to death.
unless this guy carries SAR-21 out of camp, or steal live rounds, or do other criminal activities like fighting officer in camp etc., he does not deserve to be in DB.
how come this isn't reported in the news??!!! is MINDEF trying to hide the smoke?
pls be transparent and let us know what is exactly going on.
and release this poor guy NOW.
Originally posted by Nikar7:unless this guy carries SAR-21 out of camp, or steal live rounds, or do other criminal activities like fighting officer in camp etc., he does not deserve to be in DB.
how come this isn't reported in the news??!!! is MINDEF trying to hide the smoke?
pls be transparent and let us know what is exactly going on.
and release this poor guy NOW.
Don't you see that the army is trying to change him?Don't you see the photo that the meal is too little for human consumption?
Originally posted by Stomp661:Don't you see that the army is trying to change him?Don't you see the photo that the meal is too little for human consumption?
why should army change him? is our clownish army trying to make him "alter" the way he practise his religion?
Originally posted by Stomp661:Don't you see that the army is trying to change him?Don't you see the photo that the meal is too little for human consumption?
why should army change him? is our clownish army trying to make him "alter" the way he practise his religion?
Originally posted by Nikar7:unless this guy carries SAR-21 out of camp, or steal live rounds, or do other criminal activities like fighting officer in camp etc., he does not deserve to be in DB.
how come this isn't reported in the news??!!! is MINDEF trying to hide the smoke?
pls be transparent and let us know what is exactly going on.
and release this poor guy NOW.
yes, He was charged for asking simple food..SAF as usual
Originally posted by flapdoodle:yes, He was charged for asking simple food..SAF as usual
this is unbelievable!!!!!!!! how come he never inform his OC and the OC discuss things over with him? or is it his OC charge him straightaway?
what is his S1 officer doing?!!
Originally posted by Nikar7:this is unbelievable!!!!!!!! how come he never inform his OC and the OC discuss things over with him? or is it his OC charge him straightaway?
what is his S1 officer doing?!!
In fact I believe in , SOP and reality is very different. I had expereinced it myself in unit. i dont blame the org. But the people who run it.. Like i said Inexpereinced force + conscripts waiting for 2 year to be over + regular who need income = U know what. And add in the fact that our immature army is not active duty of combat like other countries, petty things take mainstage. If u lookd at other countries armies, they have already crossed this stage and see the big picture. Time that we move on to a professional army.
Even if this priest NSF wan to to stir up shit because of something else we dont know of, it tells a lot about our current generation. They are not happy, maybe. Which means SAF needs to revamp its system.
I used to know colonel ( a good friend of mine) from the ammo dump unit. I was a small fry corporal then . He is an amazingly nice fellow, humble and no airs about him who has been there for more than 25 years. We used to have drinks together at the spec mess and even my OC knows he is my good friend as he has seen us together .
All of subordinates all like him and they talk to him as a good friend and someone to confide him. I really felt that he is the wrong guy at the wrong place. He always says that SAF is inflexible and overly paranoid about things.
Originally posted by Nikar7:unless this guy carries SAR-21 out of camp, or steal live rounds, or do other criminal activities like fighting officer in camp etc., he does not deserve to be in DB.
how come this isn't reported in the news??!!! is MINDEF trying to hide the smoke?
pls be transparent and let us know what is exactly going on.
and release this poor guy NOW.
yes, i agree unless he did somthing which is straightforward offence.
Screwing up a unit's operations or training is a straight forward offence.Technically. SAF regulations is that you conform first and send your problems up the channel for review.
Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:Screwing up a unit's operations or training is a straight forward offence.Technically. SAF regulations is that you conform first and send your problems up the channel for review.
how is he screwing up a unit operations?
is taking care of his food and other misc needs so hard?
food wise, the unit's ration master will take care of it and it's very easy (btw, i'm in charge of my camp's meals last time). the other issues are not the main problem as it is mostly food causing issues in this case.
is it because he is Indian from India and that's why SAF treating him like this?! ![]()
and considering that SAF will lose any war it fights, let's not talk about operations cos' we have none.
Well, if they can prove that he is indeed a priest, the SAf should make some allowance.
For some chinese, they don't take beef. For muslim, they don't take pork.
Since they make an effort to deliver what that kid can only eat, then SAF should at least give the respect in allowing them to do so. It is not like giving the kid special treatment but showing respect for the religion.
It is like forcing the muslim to take non halal food and focing the singh to shave their heads.
Before buddha achieved enlightenment, he went thru many hardship in Life, same goes to alots of Brahim Gods, same goes to Christand muslim prophets. I hope that he can bear thru this motal life and surface himself as a better priest or even a saint. That is part of a priesthood life, born to be a priset to serve his God, die as Saint for his God. A true priest shall take on pitifulness when evil strike, he should be tough and bear it all. With this, Angel prays and reports to God, my father to bless him.
666
for God always listen to me. He shall be safe
Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:Screwing up a unit's operations or training is a straight forward offence.Technically. SAF regulations is that you conform first and send your problems up the channel for review.
Screw the SAF, lucky i am a gal and dun have to serve.
wasting taxpayer's money force only
Originally posted by angel7030:Before buddha achieved enlightenment, he went thru many hardship in Life, same goes to alots of Brahim Gods, same goes to Christand muslim prophets. I hope that he can bear thru this motal life and surface himself as a better priest or even a saint. That is part of a priesthood life, born to be a priset to serve his God, die as Saint for his God. A true priest shall take on pitifulness when evil strike, he should be tough and bear it all. With this, Angel prays and reports to God, my father to bless him.
666
for God always listen to me. He shall be safe
christ was crucified by the devil. Same hhapen to this guy.. Shut up and get lost thank u.