SG education system
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Dont understand why many ppl frm overseas want to come here and study. Maybe the primary and sec chool is better than other countries but tertiary is seriously sux..
the system is tailored to impress foreign investors rather than giving a well rounded education.
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The system might not be perfect, but local uni's are definitely up there among the best in Asia.
Only those in Japan can claim to be miles better than Singapore Uni's.
The ones in Australia are not fantastic either. Only a handful (UNSW, Uni of Melbourne, UWA and Uni of Sydney) are marginally better, and even then this is subjective.
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Originally posted by Alpha Omega:
The system might not be perfect, but local uni's are definitely up there among the best in Asia.
Only those in Japan can claim to be miles better than Singapore Uni's.
The ones in Australia are not fantastic either. Only a handful (UNSW, Uni of Melbourne, UWA and Uni of Sydney) are marginally better, and even then this is subjective.
http://www.filination.com/blog/2008/10/13/asian-university-rankings-best-universities-in-asia-2008/
Just to add on.
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Top Asian Academic Universities in World University Rankings 2009
1 University of HONG KONG Hong Kong
2 The CHINESE University of Hong Kong Hong Kong
3 University of TOKYO Japan
4 HONG KONG University of Science and Technology Hong Kong
5 KYOTO University Japan
6 OSAKA University Japan
7 KAIST – Korea Advanced Institute of Science Korea, South
8 SEOUL National University Korea, South
9 TOKYO Institute of Technology Japan
10 National University of Singapore (NUS) Singapore
10 PEKING University China
12 NAGOYA University Japan
13 TOHOKU University Japan
14 Nanyang Technological University (NTU) Singapore
15 KYUSHU University Japan
15 TSINGHUA University China
17 Pohang University of Science and Technoly Korea, South
18 CITY University of Hong Kong Hong Kong
19 University of TSUKUBA Japan
20 HOKKAIDO University Japan
20 KEIO University Japan
22 National TAIWAN University Taiwan
23 KOBE University Japan
24 University of Science and Technology of China China
25 YONSEI University Korea, South
26 FUDAN University China
27 NANJING University China
28 HIROSHIMA University Japan
29 SHANGHAI JIAO TONG University China
30 Indian Institute of Technology Bombay (I… India
30 MAHIDOL University Thailand#10 and #14. What is so great, Hong Kong Uni is top spot...
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Last time top 20 - globally.
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Originally posted by charlize:
Last time top 20 - globally.
are u sure? Now i check global ranking become #33
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Originally posted by ☃®:
Top Asian Academic Universities in World University Rankings 2009
1 University of HONG KONG Hong Kong
2 The CHINESE University of Hong Kong Hong Kong
3 University of TOKYO Japan
4 HONG KONG University of Science and Technology Hong Kong
5 KYOTO University Japan
6 OSAKA University Japan
7 KAIST – Korea Advanced Institute of Science Korea, South
8 SEOUL National University Korea, South
9 TOKYO Institute of Technology Japan
10 National University of Singapore (NUS) Singapore
10 PEKING University China
12 NAGOYA University Japan
13 TOHOKU University Japan
14 Nanyang Technological University (NTU) Singapore
15 KYUSHU University Japan
15 TSINGHUA University China
17 Pohang University of Science and Technoly Korea, South
18 CITY University of Hong Kong Hong Kong
19 University of TSUKUBA Japan
20 HOKKAIDO University Japan
20 KEIO University Japan
22 National TAIWAN University Taiwan
23 KOBE University Japan
24 University of Science and Technology of China China
25 YONSEI University Korea, South
26 FUDAN University China
27 NANJING University China
28 HIROSHIMA University Japan
29 SHANGHAI JIAO TONG University China
30 Indian Institute of Technology Bombay (I… India
30 MAHIDOL University Thailand#10 and #14. What is so great, Hong Kong Uni is top spot...
You have to take a grain of salt from this type of ranking....
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Actually for outgoing foreigners, Singapore is the place to be, because it is far easier to stand out in Singapore than it is back in Aus, US or UK anyway. It is much easier to progress and get credits. I believe this is so throughout ALL levels, because our students here don't ask questions, they are not creative, they are very silent and timid, they don't have zest nor are they outspoken. Thus it is very easy to stand out. Ofcourse, foreign kids are like this as well.
Now as for quality, Singapore universities are good and comparable because we have good foreign lectures just like other universities have. You get good teachers and teaching methods, but ofcourse it all depends on which teacher and what course. But the fact that Singapore universities do things similar to other top universities speaks something.
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But i would not say that the SG education system is not good. it is.
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for all its ills, the educaton in spore needed some reforms. no system is entirely perfect and free of flaws.
for a start, education need to emphasis on the need to not only to write well, but to speak well as well. we are brought up in a system whereby due to respect for teachers, we do not speak up or ask the teachers questions during classes. this needed to be change. students should be encouraged to speak up and ask questions. there should be some emphasis that assignments and presentations be allocated marks for it. exams should be allocated at 50-60 %. in that case, students would take assignments, projects and presentations seriously.
we should incorporate phonetics and grammar in school, from pri to jc level. how many a time have a uni graduate here wrote rotten english, not to mention atrocious pronunciation. perhaps MOE and British council can work together on this to achieve this aim.
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Originally posted by Rooney9:
for all its ills, the educaton in spore needed some reforms. no system is entirely perfect and free of flaws.
for a start, education need to emphasis on the need to not only to write well, but to speak well as well. we are brought up in a system whereby due to respect for teachers, we do not speak up or ask the teachers questions during classes. this needed to be change. students should be encouraged to speak up and ask questions. there should be some emphasis that assignments and presentations be allocated marks for it. exams should be allocated at 50-60 %. in that case, students would take assignments, projects and presentations seriously.
we should incorporate phonetics and grammar in school, from pri to jc level. how many a time have a uni graduate here wrote rotten english, not to mention atrocious pronunciation. perhaps MOE and British council can work together on this to achieve this aim.
agree. they take our grammar standards for granted at tertiary levels. everytime ask u improve improve improve only. grammar stare at a book ownself whole day long will improve one meh. we need more interactions for this kinda things during GP/english lessons, not just drilling on how to write essays/do compres only. even at secondary levels too. where have all the compulsory grammar/vocab/speech communications/phonetics lessons gone to?
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Originally posted by Rooney9:
for all its ills, the educaton in spore needed some reforms. no system is entirely perfect and free of flaws.
for a start, education need to emphasis on the need to not only to write well, but to speak well as well. we are brought up in a system whereby due to respect for teachers, we do not speak up or ask the teachers questions during classes. this needed to be change. students should be encouraged to speak up and ask questions. there should be some emphasis that assignments and presentations be allocated marks for it. exams should be allocated at 50-60 %. in that case, students would take assignments, projects and presentations seriously.
we should incorporate phonetics and grammar in school, from pri to jc level. how many a time have a uni graduate here wrote rotten english, not to mention atrocious pronunciation. perhaps MOE and British council can work together on this to achieve this aim.
Haha that's right!
But i like to think Singaporeans naturally a timid and socialized people. Class rooms i have taught in involve NO QUESTIONS at all. Same thing with politicians, no question are asked of them at all, and their weird answers are still accepted. I think it's just somethin in Singaporeans. It is very easy to be a teacher or an MP here, you can get away with stuff you could never get away with elsewhere (im not talking abt sex scandals)
Even the professional-types do not speak that well either in communicating their ideas. Simple things like yes can be interpreted as no, or details are left out in a planning process, only to be found out much later on, and this is 2009. Singaporeans have a long way to go.
There are compulsory participation marks in university, so students try to speak up, but their quality is lacking.
I think British Council might be too relaxed for MOE or Singaporean tastes, but the good thing is having native teachers actually teach english.
This is a true story and i see it all the time, and i am doing research on this; we take the same english essays from JC and secondary school, they are graded by local teachers in school and they all get borderline fail grades; we take these essays and send them to the British Council or to Oxford and they get A/B grades.. the same essay. I kid you not. =) So something is a little bit weird.
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Originally posted by LordoftheLamers:
Haha that's right!
But i like to think Singaporeans naturally a timid and socialized people. Class rooms i have taught in involve NO QUESTIONS at all. Same thing with politicians, no question are asked of them at all, and their weird answers are still accepted. I think it's just somethin in Singaporeans. It is very easy to be a teacher or an MP here, you can get away with stuff you could never get away with elsewhere (im not talking abt sex scandals)
Even the professional-types do not speak that well either in communicating their ideas. Simple things like yes can be interpreted as no, or details are left out in a planning process, only to be found out much later on, and this is 2009. Singaporeans have a long way to go.
There are compulsory participation marks in university, so students try to speak up, but their quality is lacking.
I think British Council might be too relaxed for MOE or Singaporean tastes, but the good thing is having native teachers actually teach english.
This is a true story and i see it all the time, and i am doing research on this; we take the same english essays from JC and secondary school, they are graded by local teachers in school and they all get borderline fail grades; we take these essays and send them to the British Council or to Oxford and they get A/B grades.. the same essay. I kid you not. =) So something is a little bit weird.
no wonder, they import foreigners now into singapore, as the PM said we need them. This is unfair, when the edu system made us in such a way, who to blame?
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because even our govt told its citizens to embrace foreigners and help them settle in. Becos there is no racism in sg. Cos australia got racists cos sg is pro foreigners. cos only sg treats foreigners equally with their citizens if not better.