Quiting JC now ??? is it a good idea...
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Hi Fangping 19,
I'm also from a JC in the north. Just a year ago, I was in the exact situation that you are in now. After completing my 'O' levels, I was distraught as I did not make it into the JC that I wanted to go to. Personally, my ambition is to become an entrepreneur and I failed to see the point of school in helping me with my aim. School was just torture as I could not click with my classmates and my grades fell greatly. This whole situation coupled with a few personal factors led to me falling into depression, eventually I had to see a psychiatrist. I contemplated leaving school like you. After speaking to many people, I realised that many of them have many opinions but what matters is that you have to factor in their opinions and, based on these opinions, make your own choice.
Do not make a hasty decision. After much consideration, I decided to stay in school. Why? I felt that I could use the A levels as a backup just in case my business failed and I could still have options. You mentioned that you are a pianist. That's great and that's a talent I would love to have. However, you have to ask yourself whether you can envisage yourself teaching the piano for the rest of your life? Sure, an O level certificate can get you into some jobs but are these the jobs that you want?
I would advise you to stay in school for even if you hate studying, bearing with it for these two years will reap you great benefits in the future. I think this is what people call delayed gratification. JC life passes really fast (I can't even believe that I'm in year 2 now with a few more months to go) and you'll find yourself out in no time, trust me. Alternatively, to pass time, try to have some activities to look forward to in the week. For myself, I look forward to playing basketball with my friends every friday and that keeps me going throughout the week. Think about what interests you and look for activities that satisfy your interest and time will fly by.
However, I also think that a poly education is good. There are various opportunities for you to expand your horizons and you'll meet all sorts of people. It all comes down to your interests. Don't be swayed by what others say. Find out things by yourself and see them yourself. Whether it is poly, JC or a private school, the key is to continue your education at this stage of your life. There are really many options for further education that not many students know of. Go check these options out.
Tough times will pass. In your case, there really isn't any wrong or right choice. Just because JC is right for someone does not mean that its right for all. Same for poly as well. Whatever choice you make, I'm sure that your friends and family will respect your decision.
The above is my advice to you. Sorry its a little long. :D All the best!
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stick to JC.
you'll realise how easy it is for JC students to get into a local uni once you enter and look around....
& how can you say no to the JC orientation games next year if you volunteer to become OGL!!!!
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Poly fees are more expensive than A level
Transport more expensive as well.
And so far, I haven't seen much poly grads getting first class honours in NUS... Not because they aren't smart... it's because of the way the course is structured for them.... I have typed out my considerations and reasons long ago, too lazy to type them out again.
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as for school fees, it ends up work out to be e same if from poly direct entry to 2nd yr
but as again, it's not going to be easy considering some external factors.
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Originally posted by eagle:
no, I'm a full time engineer with uni degree and part time A level tutor.
And I have poly grads working under me... and I can see that although they are more experienced than me having worked more years, they are still limited by their degree and not allowed to rise beyond the rank of engineering assistants...
to think of it same in SAF...officer ranks are out of bounds to o levels and below..
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Copy some of my older posts to here:
But I can say for sure that in my graduating batch for engineering, none of the poly pple got 1st class honours or are on the path to getting one. In addition, none of them got the innovation and research award for their final year projects. All were from JCs. I'm pretty sure is because when the time they have in uni is too tight. No matter how you plan your modules, it is almost impossible for them to embark on programmes like what I have done, just because I have 4 years and they have 3 years.
Personal experience is, yes, for projects that requires hands on, for the hands on section, the poly students win hands down. But these projects require analysis too, and in the end, for one of the projects, the poly students built a very solid structure, but was too big to do a figure 8 as required by the module. The programming and the algorithms were also not done properly... At the uni level, the analysis to make the structure to run is much more important. In the workplace, it will be you who will be coming up with the plan; you will then command those under you to build it, not you.
There are also things that were taught in A levels, and retaught in first year uni. For poly intake, they did not learn it in poly, and being able to skip most of the modules in the first year, they did not get to learn too. In the end, in the 4th year, they lose out.
So, no matter a dip-degree route or a Alvl-degree route, just think... The Alvl-degree route results in an easier to get 1st class honours or 2nd upper with enrichment programmes like industrial attachments done (of course not every one la... too many A lvl students as compared to poly students), compared to a dip-degree route, which is harder to get a 1st class honours or 2nd upper mainly due to lack of time.
Then again, a cert is mainly used for employment. If you are not seeking one in the long term, but using it merely as a form of education, a form of investing in yourself, a step/passport to the working world, then it doesn't matter as much.
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I have to add that it's not necessary that you will score well in uni going from A levels, and poly grads can score well in uni too...
The main thing is not your beliefs or perceptions, but your future employer's beliefs or perceptions.
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eagle, why time in university for poly students is lesser than alvl grads ? i totally dont understand.
okay you mentioned that you are a full time engineer, then poly students can at most be assistants, but in working world, dont the boss ask them to take up some other training course to upgrade themselves ? then those poly students can have higher ranks ?
btw are you a jc student or poly student last time ?
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I was a jc student
The uni part... it's too long to explain, and I'm too lazy...
Poly grads at my workplace do almost the same job at times when they have sufficient experience, but they are paid lesser. Sure, there's training courses to upgrade, but they still will not be able to attain the rank of an engineer because they don't have a uni degree.
Sometimes in life, don't look at things at this current instant... Look at it from the future. What do you want? Do you want to give up one year of your life just because you are not taking active steps to reduce your stress levels or solve your problems now? Since you are already in, why not make the best of what you have now?
Think about it, this is a training on your life, your ability to handle stress, handle difficulties, a test in life on your tenacity and perserverance. Success will be all the sweeter when you have finished and completed this difficult and challenging path at the end.
The key is you must work hard... very hard... be ready to sacrifice your personal time... Nothing in this world comes for free; there's no free lunch. If you can't succeed here, what makes you think poly life would be any easier?
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how about those poly students go private uni? would that raise their standard ?
i really dont understand why poly grad have lesser to manage if they went to uni, all should have given the same time what.
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You have an iphone which is complicated and need time for your iphone.You should quit because nowadays schools don't teach religions anymore.
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Originally posted by Fangping 19:
how about those poly students go private uni? would that raise their standard ?
i really dont understand why poly grad have lesser to manage if they went to uni, all should have given the same time what.
That's because poly is three years long, and they may do a small part of the uni syllabus in poly. So they have the option to skip the first year of uni if their course of study is relevant.
That said, poly grads usually (from my observation) tend to perform poorly in uni. And like it or not, many of the private unis in Singapore do not really match NUS/NTU/SMU in standards.
Anyway, like I said, wherever it is that you go, a good mindset and a willingness to work hard is crucial to success. If you're going to be just as lazy in poly as you are in JC, then poly will be a total waste of time as well.
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You don't have to succeed in life academically.You can also succeed spiritually.Many religious leaders have a successful life.
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You can also find meanings in life from religions.I can only recommend free stuffs because I don't want you to waste money on handphones.
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I recommend you to buy Brian Littrell's latest album if you are a Christian.He is a menber of backstreet boys.
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I think all you need is an attitude change or a wake-up call.
I may sound harsh, but I'm in my first year of junior college (north zone) as well, and everything you mentioned in your first post, I can relate to (not making it to my preferred JC, maths is tough etc).
Snap out of your self-pity. If you can't even handle the first year of JC life, you won't survive in poly or university, and you might just end up as a failure in life. And I'm sure that's not what you want to be.
So quit complaining that life's unfair, life is tough, life is competetive. Whatever. We're all going through the same thing, it's not just you.
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quitting school is probably the most stupid idea a person will make in their lifetime...
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Admission for poly more or less closed.
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Originally posted by Fangping 19:
I've completed my O's in 2009 and now currently in YJC. But now I dont want to continue JC anymore, but even the poly admission (appeal case) has ended already. So means the only choice is to wait till next year then maybe i choose either poly or other school i want ? I was thinking about private school, but i received alot of negative comments about studying in private school from friends, parents of course. Is it that bad ?
If im going to wait till next year, maybe i can find some jobs to do ?
So is this a good idea ? Please give me all your opinions and advice. Tyvm :D
It is not a bad idea only if you know where you want to move on from here. If you don't, and is quitting only because you do not like JC life, then I will say it is a very bad idea.
Some of those who leave school decided to take up a part-time job for the moment, and ended up with the job for a few years, only to regret later.
Anyway, as someone has mentioned, you will still need to go for NS (If you are a guy). It is not exactly the best of decisions to go for NS first before studying in poly or private institutes.
Private institutes are not exactly bad, but most of their certs and diplomas are not as recognised as those from local polys and JCs. This alone will affect your future career life. Hence, PLEASE think carefully before you make any rash decisions.
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Originally posted by Fangping 19:
I've completed my O's in 2009 and now currently in YJC. But now I dont want to continue JC anymore, but even the poly admission (appeal case) has ended already. So means the only choice is to wait till next year then maybe i choose either poly or other school i want ? I was thinking about private school, but i received alot of negative comments about studying in private school from friends, parents of course. Is it that bad ?
If im going to wait till next year, maybe i can find some jobs to do ?
So is this a good idea ? Please give me all your opinions and advice. Tyvm :D
Go attend those SDU (Short, Desperate, Ugly) outings in your clean, new YJC uniform, act like you have just came from school.Make sure your body is dry and not sweating, and you are smelling nice (Slap yourself if you don't use any perfume).
Be polite and friendly as usual, put on your brightest innocent smile for everyone, then pick out the most successful and richest guy in the gathering and if you also like him, get married to him asap and enjoy a life of a tai-tai.
Never done it before? Don't worry, cos you are going to be the only STAR in the SDU outing.
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if you prefers to try out other solution which has been tried and tested 786463275848 times already, you are free to wait for other advices.
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Dude, man the fuck up. It's only junior college.
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Hey there! I too have difficulties in adapting in JC, the tons of workloas the PW, the sarcastic teachers whom never stop to pick on students with their vicious scarcasm and hurtful comments, currently in JC1 and I'm already feeling the waves of stress that bound to engulf the lifes of a JC student. MADNESS!! HELP ME OUT PEOPLE !
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Originally posted by AnyaRewarde:
Hey there! I too have difficulties in adapting in JC, the tons of workloas the PW, the sarcastic teachers whom never stop to pick on students with their vicious scarcasm and hurtful comments, currently in JC1 and I'm already feeling the waves of stress that bound to engulf the lifes of a JC student. MADNESS!! HELP ME OUT PEOPLE !
good GOD! if you think school is stressful, wait until you're working!take it as a rite of passage.. and in schools and unis and whatever, the journey is an education in itself, not to be confused with actually getting an education in the paper chase...