Sign on is good in SAF(depends on vocation)
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Well, there are a lot of ways. Either u can choose to talk it out in a civilized manner, or u can choose the alternative. Resign lor.....Originally posted by Fearless:What should you do if you got a lousy boss?
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Well, if u insist that I did not answer your question, then that's too bad. I know I had.Originally posted by Simon the Snow Blower:You can always choose your career. My point is why choose a career that got so much restriction? SAF everything is in black and white, as you already said. My question is what if you regret?
SAF is indeed better than last time. But that doesn't mean that SAF is good. SAF is still as fuck up as last time. Outside world, you ca choose to do the shit or not. In SAF, reagrdless it is shit or not you still got to do. You get this point?
Most of the people complain because they do not have the money to return. My point is right again, why choose a job that need to be bonded by contract and pay back when back out? You cannot just resign as and when you want.
Please read carefully. You don't dare to face my question yet trying to escape from it. Now being ask to answer my question, you say I trying to claim right. As you already said all this is based on individual thinking, than why you want to reply to my post right from the start if you respect my point of view? You don't respect my point of view and you are trying to find my fault right from the start. I hope you don't escape from answering this question. Lastly all your comparsion cannot stand. You compare all those things that outside world also can provide yet keep claiming that SAF is good SAF is best.
You work from 8.30am to 9.00pm doesn't mean you are hard working if you are looking for a job that doesn't require you to do anything yet getting high pay. Your point on doing nothing yet wishing to get high pay has already spoilt your image in me. And not to forget SAF got plenty of this type of people.
One thing, please recognize humour when u see one.
I will not attempt to argue on this anymore. Not because I am wrong or what, what u have failed to see my point of stand. So let's keep it that way that SAF is good and bad in its own sense.
I reply to your posting is to allow u to have more vision of everything. We will always compare the pros and cons before we decide whether anything is good or bad for us. If u choose to see that I don't respect your point of view, then that's too bad. I will not argue on this too. It is pointless to argue on this.
In any working environment, there is a lot of "shit" which exists in different forms. This is up to each individual to choose whether it's "good shit" or "bad shit".
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You did answer some of my questions. However most of the questions which you can't answer you choose to escape from them.Originally posted by Larry:Well, if u insist that I did not answer your question, then that's too bad. I know I had.
One thing, please recognize humour when u see one.
I will not attempt to argue on this anymore. Not because I am wrong or what, what u have failed to see my point of stand. So let's keep it that way that SAF is good and bad in its own sense.
I reply to your posting is to allow u to have more vision of everything. We will always compare the pros and cons before we decide whether anything is good or bad for us. If u choose to see that I don't respect your point of view, then that's too bad. I will not argue on this too. It is pointless to argue on this.
In any working environment, there is a lot of "shit" which exists in different forms. This is up to each individual to choose whether it's "good shit" or "bad shit".
I like your points too, but lets keep this discussion professional, yah??
In a serious discussion. I take things seriously. If you want me to joke like a fool, I can do that also.
You don't seems to see my point either? You keep claiming this is good that is good but all your claim can't stand at all. How SAF is fuck up, everybody got eyes to see and got mind to judge, you can keep dreaming in your dreamland if you like.
You choose to reply to my point that is because you feel that I am wrong. Am I right to say that? And since you reply to my post, I reply back. All the while you keep claiming you are right, everything you are right and everything I am wrong. You call that respect my point of view? If you don't respect my point of view, than why must I respect your view?
There is no such thing as good shit. The only difference is whether you can escape from the shit or not. SAF definitely cannot escape.
You like my point? I doubt, just look at the way you reply, to me you totally seems to think you are right and I am wrong. You can continue to say I am wrong. Facts are always facts. There are a lot of things in SAF which is true and you cannot run away from it. Face it! Fact the true which happen in SAF. -
You thought want to sue means sue? You think so easy? In SAF charging a person is so easy. A little bit of thing also can be charged. Who say private sector job cannot quit? Unless you bonded by contract. Which job cannot quit? You friend is just lucky, ask him to scold a few more officiers and see where he is going to land?Originally posted by moose:Depends,if you scold you boss,he can sue you in a civil suit or if you are bound by contract,You cannot quit even if you want to.Anyway,i have colleagues who scold their officers and still have not entered DB yet,ehehe -
Not everything is a bed of rose as you think. SAF there is seldom such things as talk things out in a proper manner. SAF everything is order.Originally posted by Larry:Well, there are a lot of ways. Either u can choose to talk it out in a civilized manner, or u can choose the alternative. Resign lor.....
I believe most people nowadays are negotiable. It's how we start the negotiation, that's all.
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Ya,contracts jobs do exist in the civilian world and so if you are bonded by 1,you cannot just quit even if you want to.Agreed?Anyway,suing a person in Singapore for slander is easier than you think.It's just that it is seldom heard of doesn't mean it does not take place.My friend has scolded quite a few officers so far.About 4 at last count and so far,no charges,heeheOriginally posted by Fearless:You thought want to sue means sue? You think so easy? In SAF charging a person is so easy. A little bit of thing also can be charged. Who say private sector job cannot quit? Unless you bonded by contract. Which job cannot quit? You friend is just lucky, ask him to scold a few more officiers and see where he is going to land?
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My question again, why choose a job that require you to be bonded by contract? You keep avoiding this question, please answer me. If sueing a person is so easy, millions and millions of people had already landed in jail or got fined. Try sueing me for slander, you think so easy is it? It is indeed seldom heard, and it seldom take place also. I don't know where you get the information it is easy to sue a person for slander. Your friend can continue to try his luck, I shall see how lucky he will be. Why don't he try to scold people of higher rank?Originally posted by moose:Ya,contracts jobs do exist in the civilian world and so if you are bonded by 1,you cannot just quit even if you want to.Agreed?Anyway,suing a person in Singapore for slander is easier than you think.It's just that it is seldom heard of doesn't mean it does not take place.My friend has scolded quite a few officers so far.About 4 at last count and so far,no charges,heehe
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Sorry to correct you friend...it is not a little bit of thing can also be charged...ALL things can charged one.Originally posted by Fearless:You thought want to sue means sue? You think so easy? In SAF charging a person is so easy. A little bit of thing also can be charged. Who say private sector job cannot quit? Unless you bonded by contract. Which job cannot quit? You friend is just lucky, ask him to scold a few more officiers and see where he is going to land?
Come and think of it if you dig your nostril in the public your bosses can also charge you for Prejudice to the Good Conduct of SAF.
Also, we often see ppl scolding their bosses but didn't get charge. Why? I am pretty sure it is not becoz they are kind souls. It is for political reasons. It is for their reputation and for those who had been in the army should know tat rank is not the onli big shit in the camp; your appointment matters a lot too....You all got see OC or PC kenna tekan by storemans and armourers one anot?
I think when someone lower in rank dare to scold someone higher is defintely damn pissed and USUALLY the higher ranking one is wrong.
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Sorry to correct you friend...it is not a little bit of thing can also be charged...ALL things can charged one.Originally posted by Fearless:You thought want to sue means sue? You think so easy? In SAF charging a person is so easy. A little bit of thing also can be charged. Who say private sector job cannot quit? Unless you bonded by contract. Which job cannot quit? You friend is just lucky, ask him to scold a few more officiers and see where he is going to land?
Come and think of it if you dig your nostril in the public your bosses can also charge you for Prejudice to the Good Conduct of SAF.
Also, we often see ppl scolding their bosses but didn't get charge. Why? I am pretty sure it is not becoz they are kind souls. It is for political reasons. It is for their reputation and for those who had been in the army should know tat rank is not the onli big shit in the camp; your appointment matters a lot too....You all got see OC or PC kenna tekan by storemans and armourers one anot?
I think when someone lower in rank dare to scold someone higher is defintely damn pissed and USUALLY the higher ranking one is wrong.
Comments pls although I dun want wars.
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Sorry to correct you friend...it is not a little bit of thing can also be charged...ALL things can charged one.Originally posted by Fearless:You thought want to sue means sue? You think so easy? In SAF charging a person is so easy. A little bit of thing also can be charged. Who say private sector job cannot quit? Unless you bonded by contract. Which job cannot quit? You friend is just lucky, ask him to scold a few more officiers and see where he is going to land?
Come and think of it if you dig your nostril in the public your bosses can also charge you for Prejudice to the Good Conduct of SAF.
Also, we often see ppl scolding their bosses but didn't get charge. Why? I am pretty sure it is not becoz they are kind souls. It is for political reasons. It is for their reputation and for those who had been in the army should know tat rank is not the onli big shit in the camp; your appointment matters a lot too....You all got see OC or PC kenna tekan by storemans and armourers one anot?
I think when someone lower in rank dare to scold someone higher is defintely damn pissed and USUALLY the higher ranking one is wrong.
Comments pls although I dun want wars.
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Larry: Read ur posts and I think that u wrote with a mature mind Good, keep it up!
Simen chui xue: Debate with a open mind and see the other party's view point. There's no right or wrong in this. He's not avoiding ur qns. It's juz tt u choose to see it ur way. I don't know both of u personally and I see things objectively.
To all: Take a step back and think what u really want out of ur life. To those who regret signing on, u did it on ur own free will, be responsible enough to fulfill ur contract/promise n make the best with what u have now, leave after ur contract if u want. It is part of ur life experiences and if u took it in ur strides with the right attitute, u will come out of it a better person. Remember, the decisions are ur's to take, no point regretting, stand by ur decisions always. Best wishes
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He did scold a few of his officers and once even his CO for a stoopid decision his CO made.As for why some people need a job that requires them to be bonded.Some people need aa job with a bond or contract as this will make them think twice before resigning on the spot as some people have the tendency to just up and quit once the going gets tough.A bond will ensure they stay behind and face the problem instead of quitting and finding another job.Besides,most jobs i know have a bond of some sort where you cannot leave if you are under probation which normally comes after you have accepted the job.The probation period is also a sort of bond where you cannot quit,but you can leave once the probation period is up,he probation period can take about 1/2 year to 1 year.And job hopping if you don't like the job will only make the person lose out in the end as reputation of a job hopper will stick and in the interviews.The interviewer will always ask why you left your previous job.If you say they don't have bond,so i not happy,i leave.It will not reflect too well on the interviewee.The bond maybe a few years or months,but i am sure most companies practise it in 1 form or another,eheheOriginally posted by Fearless:My question again, why choose a job that require you to be bonded by contract? You keep avoiding this question, please answer me. If sueing a person is so easy, millions and millions of people had already landed in jail or got fined. Try sueing me for slander, you think so easy is it? It is indeed seldom heard, and it seldom take place also. I don't know where you get the information it is easy to sue a person for slander. Your friend can continue to try his luck, I shall see how lucky he will be. Why don't he try to scold people of higher rank?
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All things can be charged, but not so easy. You think say want to charge means want to charge is it? Yes this theory only apply in SAF. In outside world it is not so easy.Originally posted by Desert Fox:Sorry to correct you friend...it is not a little bit of thing can also be charged...ALL things can charged one.
Come and think of it if you dig your nostril in the public your bosses can also charge you for Prejudice to the Good Conduct of SAF.
Also, we often see ppl scolding their bosses but didn't get charge. Why? I am pretty sure it is not becoz they are kind souls. It is for political reasons. It is for their reputation and for those who had been in the army should know tat rank is not the onli big shit in the camp; your appointment matters a lot too....You all got see OC or PC kenna tekan by storemans and armourers one anot?
I think when someone lower in rank dare to scold someone higher is defintely damn pissed and USUALLY the higher ranking one is wrong.
Comments pls although I dun want wars.
Dig nose in public? SAF want to charge people they can think of all sorts of excuses.
What an excuse you can think of for people not charging people. Please come out with better excuse.
Don't keep giving lame excuse for people doing this doing that but not being charged. As what Mr Simon said, facts are always facts. The truth is always there for people to see.
You if want to debate with me, feel free. That Mr Moose is already stuck into the mud and unable to think, you want to debate? Feel free, don't blame me if there is any war.
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You can always get him to try his luck on higher rank officiers. What another lame excuse you can think of, need a contract job so that he wouldn't resign so easily. Mr Moose, since start you had been trying hard to think of excuses to say sign on is good. Excuses after excuses. I really hope you can answer me on why is it good to sign on in SAF rather than keep finding excuses to say SAF is good to sign on. If you tell them they don't have bond, not happy working, that's why resign. I can tell you, even you got bond and you happy working there yet giving this type of attitude, regardless where you can find a job. You are wrong Mr Moose, most companies does not practice bond.Originally posted by moose:He did scold a few of his officers and once even his CO for a stoopid decision his CO made.As for why some people need a job that requires them to be bonded.Some people need aa job with a bond or contract as this will make them think twice before resigning on the spot as some people have the tendency to just up and quit once the going gets tough.A bond will ensure they stay behind and face the problem instead of quitting and finding another job.Besides,most jobs i know have a bond of some sort where you cannot leave if you are under probation which normally comes after you have accepted the job.The probation period is also a sort of bond where you cannot quit,but you can leave once the probation period is up,he probation period can take about 1/2 year to 1 year.And job hopping if you don't like the job will only make the person lose out in the end as reputation of a job hopper will stick and in the interviews.The interviewer will always ask why you left your previous job.If you say they don't have bond,so i not happy,i leave.It will not reflect too well on the interviewee.The bond maybe a few years or months,but i am sure most companies practise it in 1 form or another,ehehe
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Higher ranking?Well,my friend seldom encounter higher ranking officers besides his CO as he is on board ship.Anyway,i didn't say it' good to sign on per se.I only said it's good if you like the vocation.You must not read it out of context as the meaning will be drastically different.Anyway,the normal practise for companies is for you to give 1 weeks notice if you wanna quit,Isn't that another form of contractual agreement where you cannot leave until 1 week later?Some companies have a clause stating you must work for 1 month or 3 months.3 months or 6 years.It's still a contractual agreement between the company and the employee
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Higher ranking?Well,my friend seldom encounter higher ranking officers besides his CO as he is on board ship.Anyway,i didn't say it' good to sign on per se.I only said it's good if you like the vocation.You must not read it out of context as the meaning will be drastically different.Anyway,the normal practise for companies is for you to give 1 weeks notice if you wanna quit,Isn't that another form of contractual agreement where you cannot leave until 1 week later?Some companies have a clause stating you must work for 1 month or 3 months.3 months or 6 years.It's still a contractual agreement between the company and the employee.But do not mistake a bond and a contract,a bond is when a company pay you for your studies,thus you are bonded to the company to serve a minimun period of time as the company needs to regain it's investment,A contract is just an agreement between an employee and the company without any mention of payment for studies etc etc,heehe
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Eating a lot of good food will make 1 hour seem like 5 minutes while eating lotsa horrigible cooked veggies will make 5 minutes seem like 1 hour~~~
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I should say your friend is quite lucky. You say that a person should sign on if he likes the vocation, my point is what if he likes his vocation but dislikes regimental life? Comparing 1 week or 1 month contract to 6 years contract, 1 week or 1 month is nothing. Even you yourself also regretted signing on. Now you keep saying SAF is so good to sign on. Say as if outside world is even worst etc etc.Originally posted by moose:Higher ranking?Well,my friend seldom encounter higher ranking officers besides his CO as he is on board ship.Anyway,i didn't say it' good to sign on per se.I only said it's good if you like the vocation.You must not read it out of context as the meaning will be drastically different.Anyway,the normal practise for companies is for you to give 1 weeks notice if you wanna quit,Isn't that another form of contractual agreement where you cannot leave until 1 week later?Some companies have a clause stating you must work for 1 month or 3 months.3 months or 6 years.It's still a contractual agreement between the company and the employee.But do not mistake a bond and a contract,a bond is when a company pay you for your studies,thus you are bonded to the company to serve a minimun period of time as the company needs to regain it's investment,A contract is just an agreement between an employee and the company without any mention of payment for studies etc etc,heehe -
Maybe my friend has a bad temper and hates people who mess up in their work.but that's another story.To answer your point where if a person likes his vocation,but hates the regimenta life.I have said that he must consider both and if his love of the vocation is greater than his dislike for the regimental life.Then he should sign on.The same colleague i told you abot who love his vocation,but hated regimental life more than me,he even thinks the navy uniform sucks and the way they do things sucks,but his love of his vocation was strong enough to overcome it.As for me,i don't like my vocation nor love the regimental life,so i have regrets signing on.So i die die also must leave the SAF once my contract is up as although even if the working world outside is worse than the SAF,it still cannot compare to the regimentation of SAF,eheheOriginally posted by Fearless:I should say your friend is quite lucky. You say that a person should sign on if he likes the vocation, my point is what if he likes his vocation but dislikes regimental life? Comparing 1 week or 1 month contract to 6 years contract, 1 week or 1 month is nothing. Even you yourself also regretted signing on. Now you keep saying SAF is so good to sign on. Say as if outside world is even worst etc etc.
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Theory Of Relativity
Eating a lot of good food will make 1 hour seem like 5 minutes while eating lotsa horrigible cooked veggies will make 5 minutes seem like 1 hour~~~
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I will like to see when your friend going to get charged (if he ever get charged).Originally posted by moose:Maybe my friend has a bad temper and hates people who mess up in their work.but that's another story.To answer your point where if a person likes his vocation,but hates the regimenta life.I have said that he must consider both and if his love of the vocation is greater than his dislike for the regimental life.Then he should sign on.The same colleague i told you abot who love his vocation,but hated regimental life more than me,he even thinks the navy uniform sucks and the way they do things sucks,but his love of his vocation was strong enough to overcome it.As for me,i don't like my vocation nor love the regimental life,so i have regrets signing on.So i die die also must leave the SAF once my contract is up as although even if the working world outside is worse than the SAF,it still cannot compare to the regimentation of SAF,ehehe
Good point, a person my consider which is greater. As I already stress right from the start. I say again, I stress right from the start, a person should sign on only if he is able to take the regimental life in SAF. Now Mr Moose, you seems to have already agree with this point. So I wonder what is the discussion about when you agree with my point? Not many people love the vocation and can over look the regimental part. Your friend is an excpetion. You only saw your friend as one of example. I saw many many who regretted signing on. One of them is you Mr Moose, am I right to say that?
Now you say outside world is better than SAF when ask about you regretted signing on. Initally you say until outside world is so bad. Outside world difficult to find job when economy is down, outside world can get charged easily, outside world got 1 week or 1 month contract etc etc. Now your change your words when you not going to extend your contract. So now which is your point of stand? SAF better or outside world better? Or when it come to other people, SAF better, come to you yourself, outside world better? -
In the starting,you mentioned that a person should only sign up if he love the forces.The vocation and regimental life are part of forces.So if he loves the vocation ,but hate the regimental life.He must consider it as the vocation and regimental life are part and parcel of the SAF.When you sad he must love the SAF to sign on,you meant he must love the vocation and regimental life to sign on.I beg to differ on that if he loves the vocation to overlook the regimental life,he can still sign on.A person doesn't have to love the vocation and regimental life to sign on.He can sign on if he loves the vocation to overlook the regimental life.I don't love my vocation or the regimental life,so in short,i don't love the SAF,heeh
Which post was it that i say that the working world is better than SAF?I just said that i hate regimental life and the working world has almost no regimental life.so i die die will leave the SAF.Anyway,how bad the working world is in other aspects,i will still choose it as i have no tolerance for regimentation,ehehe
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Theory Of Relativity
Eating a lot of good food will make 1 hour seem like 5 minutes while eating lotsa horrigible cooked veggies will make 5 minutes seem like 1 hour~~~
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Love the forces means love the regimental life in the forces. Not necessary love the forces means love vocation. Doesn it mean love the forces also must love the people there? Love all the shit there? If a person love his vocation but hate regimental life, do you think the person is happy to sign on? Do you think he will enjoy his career in the forces?Originally posted by moose:In the starting,you mentioned that a person should only sign up if he love the forces.The vocation and regimental life are part of forces.So if he loves the vocation ,but hate the regimental life.He must consider it as the vocation and regimental life are part and parcel of the SAF.When you sad he must love the SAF to sign on,you meant he must love the vocation and regimental life to sign on.I beg to differ on that if he loves the vocation to overlook the regimental life,he can still sign on.A person doesn't have to love the vocation and regimental life to sign on.He can sign on if he loves the vocation to overlook the regimental life.I don't love my vocation or the regimental life,so in short,i don't love the SAF,heeh
Which post was it that i say that the working world is better than SAF?I just said that i hate regimental life and the working world has almost no regimental life.so i die die will leave the SAF.Anyway,how bad the working world is in other aspects,i will still choose it as i have no tolerance for regimentation,ehehe
From your post, you got no intention to extend your contract. You also just mention you don't like your vocation and regimental in the forces, isn't that trying to say that outside world is better? Unless you tell me after the contract expires, you don't intend to work anymore. If not can you explain to me under your case is outside world better? So now your point of view which is better? -
Nope,i still stand by my views that to love the forces,you need to love your vocation and the regimental life.Just because you love the forces don't mean you only love the regimental life and not the vocation.Every job has sh*t, and i have already quoted 1 example of my colleague who loved his vocation,but hated the regimental life and generally,his love of the vocation overpowerered his disdain of the regimental life to make him a generally satisfied person in the SAF,he also pretty much enjoys his career becos of his love of his vocation is great enough to overlook his disdain of the regimental life.
As for the working world,i know it's tough in some aspects and some aspects can be worse than working in the SAF.But all in all,Both the SAF and the working world have their set of sh*t,only thing is that it's different sh*t.My main grouse with the SAF is the regimental life of which i hate so much that i am willing to put up with the sh*t of the working just to get away from the regimental life.So the working world is better for me.As for other people,their disdain of the regimental life may not be as great as mine,so they may not be willing to put up with the sh*t of the working world just to get away from regimental life,so to them,working world may be comparable to joining the SAF,heehe
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Theory Of Relativity
Eating a lot of good food will make 1 hour seem like 5 minutes while eating lotsa horrigible cooked veggies will make 5 minutes seem like 1 hour~~~
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A person who don't wish to work yet hope to get high pay is consider mature. I really wonder how mature you are.Originally posted by Ding:Larry: Read ur posts and I think that u wrote with a mature mind Good, keep it up!
Simen chui xue: Debate with a open mind and see the other party's view point. There's no right or wrong in this. He's not avoiding ur qns. It's juz tt u choose to see it ur way. I don't know both of u personally and I see things objectively.
You got the cheek to tell me to debate with an open mind. See carefully who is the one who refuse to open his mind. There is no right or wrong, so why Larry want to find problem with my first post if he feels there is nothing wrong with my post? I believe I deserve to have my opinion posted here. I choose to post my view here and look at what nonsense Larry replied me. He is obviously avoiding some of my question which are facts and he is unable to answer. Open your eyes and read carefully before commenting. -
SAF SHITTILY SUCKS. FUCK SAF! 99.999% OF SAF SLAVES ARE UNWILLING WORKERS AND ONLY WORK BECAUSE IF THEY DON'T THEY WILL GO DB. SAF SUCKSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!
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Well, I'm flattered.Originally posted by Ding:Larry: Read ur posts and I think that u wrote with a mature mind Good, keep it up!
Simen chui xue: Debate with a open mind and see the other party's view point. There's no right or wrong in this. He's not avoiding ur qns. It's juz tt u choose to see it ur way. I don't know both of u personally and I see things objectively.
To all: Take a step back and think what u really want out of ur life. To those who regret signing on, u did it on ur own free will, be responsible enough to fulfill ur contract/promise n make the best with what u have now, leave after ur contract if u want. It is part of ur life experiences and if u took it in ur strides with the right attitute, u will come out of it a better person. Remember, the decisions are ur's to take, no point regretting, stand by ur decisions always. Best wishes
It could be due to the fact that I am an old man.
I always welcome a healthy discussion.