is america the most powerful country
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Do you all really think that america is the most powerful country in this world?
I don't think so.
During World War 2, it takes america and the whole world to join force before they could defeat just 3 countries Japan, germany and italy. And if they were not lucky to have invented the atomic bomb, who knows whether they will even be able to win the war anot.
During vietnam war, china was very weak and poor country and america at that time was the most powerful country in the world.
But still china win the war.
If China and America today is to fight a war, I am sure China will win the war. Even if america and all the european countries join force, china will still be able to defeat them.
I think america is just a paper tiger
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Were you have Window OS from Microsoft, airplane made from Wright Brothers, cars made from Henry Ford or will men be able to travel to moon if these is not made possible from people in America ? Will China be able to achieve that same kind of achievement from their "old fedual academic thinking" of getting good marks only ? In fact nowadays it would be poison milk power that will destroyed china alone, not in term of military strength.
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actually american helping the wrong side of viet
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cheenaland???
poison milk, fake food, fake stuff...
but still they still richer then US...
Tat's the power of a society driven by gains and gains alone without giving a damn hoot abt the little girl who was dying by the roadside after being knocked down by a van... -
Originally posted by M the name:
Were you have Window OS from Microsoft, airplane made from Wright Brothers, cars made from Henry Ford or will men be able to travel to moon if these is not made possible from people in America ? Will China be able to achieve that same kind of achievement from their "old fedual academic thinking" of getting good marks only ? In fact nowadays it would be poison milk power that will destroyed china alone, not in term of military strength.
Does all this matters in the event of a war?China is still doing very well despite the posion milk power
In fact america will be destroyed by the unemployment rates in their country while china survives and is doing well
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Originally posted by c2-01:
Does all this matters in the event of a war?China is still doing very well despite the posion milk power
In fact america will be destroyed by the unemployment rates in their country while china survives and is doing well
Of course it matter cos China didn't have the brain and technology like the america to even make usefully weapons : http://www.businessinsider.com/american-battlefield-weapons-2011-4 , can you tell me if the first modern aircraft carrier is built by China or USA ?,If the soviet are stingy and didn't provide arm to China, no way they can get an decent gun or plane. Even Asian countries like Japan and Taiwan learn to catch in term of arm technology while it is an well known secret that china is still using 50s weapons.And you think soldier from China who cannot even know how to throw an grenade can be an asset to win a war ? you just didn't know incident that this that was not reported in news. http://sg.news.yahoo.com/army-recruit%E2%80%99s-hand-grenade-throw-goes-awfully-wrong.html . And I agreed that China is doing very well despite the poison milk power that recently they orgainized another "fooling around" strike to LG Nanjing branch factory in China as they are "over-welling pay" than people from US or the rest of the world :
1) http://sg.news.yahoo.com/8-000-chinese-workers-strike-lg-displays-nanjing-041004972.html
2) http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/china-news/tumultuous-year-ahead-for-chinese-regime-174433.html
Finally why you so anxious of China in winning any war ? Are you one of their "comrade?"
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no longer.............
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North korea is the most powerful country....
it got usa on her kneels.....
because nk have nukes
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is america the most powerful country
Military power, global military power projection, quality of alliances, U.S is still the strongest state in the world.
That's why they can act cocky, lecture others, impose economic sanctions on others and attack countries at whim.
It's why I oppose U.S hegemony.
They need the military power in order to maintain the current western centric global order, prevent other powers from rising and to impose their neoliberal economic agenda on the entire world. They need military strength for these goals.
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Most powerful ? In terms of military strength, yes. The population of China is many times greater than the US, but their military is not strong (yet).
Most powerful ? In terms of economy, yes. The US economy is still the biggest in the world, but will be overtaken by China soon, and India after 2050.
Most powerful ? As in culture, yes. American culture is the most influential in the world, thanks to the drama, movie and music industry. But cultures of other countries like South Korea, China and India are beginning to gain popularity worldwide as well.
Most powerful ? As in the mentality of the society, no. Japan and South Korea easily triumphs every other country in the world when it comes to mentality. Most Americans are not willing to work and study 18 hours a day to keep their country's economy in the top position.
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what asia lacks is an american innovative mindset...
they have lesser mental barriers when it comes to doing what they want to do...asians are entrapped by cultural constraints and emotional baggages..
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go toilet oso must go together....nin nao hia...
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Originally posted by Dalforce 1941:
Military power, global military power projection, quality of alliances, U.S is still the strongest state in the world.
That's why they can act cocky, lecture others, impose economic sanctions on others and attack countries at whim.
It's why I oppose U.S hegemony.
They need the military power in order to maintain the current western centric global order, prevent other powers from rising and to impose their neoliberal economic agenda on the entire world. They need military strength for these goals.
I dare america to act cocky and attack china.They will sure get defeated anyway if they do attack china even if they have many countries to form an alliance.
They have so much difficulty attacking iraq. It is common sense that they will lose if they fight with china who is many times more powerful than iraq
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Originally posted by single_alone:
I dare america to act cocky and attack china.Fresh evidence that NATO's bombing of Chinese embassy in Belgrade was deliberate
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China attack US on US land. US win US attack China on China land. China win Simple reason. geographic advantage. Battle on sea, US win. China no aircraft carrier Battle on land, China win. 1.3+ billion people is not for show de Battle in air, US win. F22 is still too much for the china air force to handle in an air-to-air combat. The important thing is that, China government now is fking rich.
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Don't forget, usa got nuclear power plant, they can suddenly pop a nuke out
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actually, ts asking this question is like asking which car is the fastest. Different cars can be the fastest depending on the variables that they are tested against. For example in under 1.6 cat could be xxx car, but say from 2-3litre cat could be this yyy car. And somemore, fast also have different type of fast. Fast in acceleration to 100mph, fast in a straight road, fast in wet condition, fast in 50 lap F1 race... etc. The variables are endless.
hence it is difficult if not impossible to determine which is the most powerful country. It's not just about the military hardware, but also the quality of the hardware, the ability of the people to use it, the sustainability to using it, the mental backlash on the soldiers as well as the civilians at home (Let's not forget his troops fought life and limb overseas, Thomas Jefferson fought an equally difficult if not harder war of convincing his country men to continue to support the war). There are also other avenues of "power" to consider for example controlling the economy, hacking the intelligence network and selling sensitive info to potential rivals, etc.
But having said all this, i believe in hand to hand, solider to solider, the most dangerous solider would be one from NK. There is a limit how much an american soldier fights and risks his life as he has family, assets and country behind him. A NK fighter will go all out because they have nothing in the first place. If they fail, they have nothing. If they win, they have everything.
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Hand to hand ? How about a tomahawk missle into their barracks first. lol China and the US wont fight. But they will fight other people together for sure .
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Whether US or China will be enemy will depend on issue like Taiwan. If fact if I remember correctly, some year back one of taiwan lawmaker (Not sure if his name is Lee Ao ?) had make a daring statement in the cabinet of creating time line for "indepenence" stated that now the government had US support, if they really want to be "free", they need to make decision before the next election and US will provide "free" arm to Taiwan under some international act.Luckily no much attention was given and KMT is stlll the majority opposition as well.
Not to forget to mention Tibet human right issue as well, which Obama support "human rights for Tibetans " and the south china sea dispute over oil rich island.Interest of conflict is always the spark of the war.
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Originally posted by airgrinder:
hence it is difficult if not impossible to determine which is the most powerful country.
Actually you compare the military power, and the power projection capabilities(close to 1000 U.S overseas bases), there is no doubt that U.S is the strongest.
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america is going to implode like Russia very soon. american has a lot of problems, esp its debts, owing some 14 trillion dollars? they will not go bankrupt anytime soon, but this is unsustainable going forward.future generations will need to pay interest for the debts they owed.
america cant afford to have overseas troops and base, that did nothing, but peace keeping. can america afford its welfare system of the 60s? can america keep on spending its present way in future? some of the US states are bankrupted! the future doesnt look bright for US. China may overtake US very soon, based on current projections of growth.
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Originally posted by Jacky Woo:
america cant afford to have overseas troops and base, that did nothing, but peace keeping.
It's for power projection and maintaining its imperialist global system and check its rivals, not peacekeeping.
can america afford its welfare system of the 60s?
Too much on defense spending is the problem for the U.S. 1000 military bases all over the world to check their rivals is very expensive to maintain.
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Originally posted by Dalforce 1941:
It's for power projection and maintaining its imperialist global system and check its rivals, not peacekeeping.
Too much on defense spending is the problem for the U.S. 1000 military bases all over the world to check their rivals is very expensive to maintain.
yes not to mention the 2 wars from 2001 till now.
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Originally posted by Dalforce 1941:
It's for power projection and maintaining its imperialist global system and check its rivals, not peacekeeping.
Too much on defense spending is the problem for the U.S. 1000 military bases all over the world to check their rivals is very expensive to maintain.
social security and defence are the worst. can they afford to continue spending on ss and defence? I dun think so.
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Originally posted by M the name:
Of course it matter cos China didn't have the brain and technology like the america to even make usefully weapons : http://www.businessinsider.com/american-battlefield-weapons-2011-4 , can you tell me if the first modern aircraft carrier is built by China or USA ?,If the soviet are stingy and didn't provide arm to China, no way they can get an decent gun or plane. Even Asian countries like Japan and Taiwan learn to catch in term of arm technology while it is an well known secret that china is still using 50s weapons.And you think soldier from China who cannot even know how to throw an grenade can be an asset to win a war ? you just didn't know incident that this that was not reported in news. http://sg.news.yahoo.com/army-recruit%E2%80%99s-hand-grenade-throw-goes-awfully-wrong.html . And I agreed that China is doing very well despite the poison milk power that recently they orgainized another "fooling around" strike to LG Nanjing branch factory in China as they are "over-welling pay" than people from US or the rest of the world :
1) http://sg.news.yahoo.com/8-000-chinese-workers-strike-lg-displays-nanjing-041004972.html
2) http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/china-news/tumultuous-year-ahead-for-chinese-regime-174433.html
Finally why you so anxious of China in winning any war ? Are you one of their "comrade?"
china was ruined by mao zedong, but was uplifted by deng xiaoping in 1978.
if not for him, china would still be a communist country like north korea.