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  • Gazelle's Avatar
    6,395 posts since Jul '04
    • What is your view on this article?

      From Sunday Times

      Feb 27, 2005 - Marry him, Fann
      No longer a spring chicken at 34, is it 'time' Fann Wong marries Christopher Lee? Or does such an attitude demean women?
      By Sumiko Tan

      YOU have noticed that I haven't been dwelling on the topics of love, marriage and relationships of late, it's deliberate.

      When I started writing this Sunday column in 1994, hardly a few months went by when I didn't lament my singlehood. Musing on past, present and future romances was a constant theme.

      But it's one thing to be hung up on love when you're in your eligible 20s and still-available 30s, and another when you've hit 40.

      When you're 40 and still unmarried, it's unbecoming to be seen as pining for romance. In fact, it's desperate and pathetic.

      Like it or not, the search for love and marriage is regarded as a privilege of the young.

      While 40 isn't exactly 'old', it certainly can't be considered young, and pity a single woman of that age bemoaning her marital status in public.

      The reason I'm revisiting the issue is Fann Wong.

      Last week, the Life! section of The Straits Times carried a report speculating on how she and her alleged boyfriend, fellow TV artiste Christopher Lee, are getting married at last.

      Both are 34.

      One of the actress' fans was quoted as saying: 'At her age, it's also time she got married.'

      It's a sentiment I share.

      In the larger scheme of things, 34 isn't old (especially if you are, like me, 41). But when it comes to marriage, it's getting there.

      If she loves Christopher, Fann should marry him, I think. And quickly.

      A colleague was indignant when she heard this.

      'How can you say something like that?' she asked.

      I suppose views like mine do reinforce stereotypes about women.

      Stereotypes such as how women - even beautiful, talented and rich ones like Fann - have sell-by dates, and if they miss the boat, will be left on the shelf, pardon the mixed metaphors.

      Stereotypes like how women lose their attractiveness when they grow older.

      Stereotypes like how women desire to be attractive to men.

      Stereotypes like how, without a romantic partner, a woman's life isn't complete.

      I'm going to get flak for saying this, but, guess what? I believe there is truth to all those stereotypes.

      Women do have sell-by dates.

      Women are physically less attractive as they age.

      Women do want to appeal to men.

      And having a man in one's life is better than none.

      WHEN the HBO sitcom Sex And The City was launched in 1998, I, like so many other single, independent women in cities around the world, was charmed.

      How we loved the antics of Carrie and gang as they flitted from one romance to another, loving and leaving men and giving them as good as they got.

      The characters spoke for us liberated women on the cusp of the 21st century. We could take on men on our terms.

      But the magic for me wore thin after a few seasons.

      The older the characters grew (and the actresses too, visibly), the more their lives appeared more strained than swinging.

      It's acceptable when you're in your early 30s to work a room full of men, showing off your cleavage. But when you're approaching 40 and still doing this, something must be wrong in your life.

      Besides, much as the characters were depicted as gutsy and independent, what they were all chasing in the end was the man of their dreams.

      They wanted a relationship or marriage, to be with a man and be looked after by him.

      The sitcom drew to a neat close last year with all the characters happily partnered.

      In real life, of course, this doesn't always happen. Many swinging single women don't have a happily ever after.

      My theory is that 35 is the make-or-break age of a woman in the marriage market.

      Miss it - either through lack of choice or because you are too busy or fussy to commit - and it will take extraordinary luck or hard work for you to claw back into the market and get hitched.

      This is because 35 is also, alas, that age when one's looks start heading south (just check out those forehead lines that seemingly appear overnight).

      And no matter how men and women will say otherwise, in the game of courtship, youthful looks always fare better than craggy ones. It's just a fact of life.

      BEING still-single at 40 is a strange experience.

      On the one hand, there's that part where your heart can still skip a beat when you meet someone dishy. On the other, you realise that you must finally start behaving with at least some adult decorum. It's just so sad to still be squealing over a 'cute guy'.

      Complicating the matter is how, most times, you actually find yourself just not that interested anymore.

      Dating is boring and meaningless, and a stress-free, asexual lifestyle with your dog and TV actually sounds inviting, especially when you come home pooped from work.

      Yet, when you see happily married couples and their children around you, you feel a twinge of What If.

      So, if I were 34 again and in Fann's shoes, what would I do?

      Marry before I hit 35 or it'll be 'too late'? Or luxuriate a while more in singlehood, shelf-life be damned?

      All things considered, I'd choose marriage.

      If you are so lucky as to ever discover The One, don't let him slip away.

      Because, as someone who has been there, but hadn't done that, you wouldn't want to wake up at 40 and regret it.

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    FireIce's Avatar
    220,542 posts since Dec '99
  • Gazelle's Avatar
    6,395 posts since Jul '04
    • Originally posted by FireIce:

      I am sorry, my thread is directed at spring chicken in Singapore, not fann wong. To me fann wong will never be too old to get married because she is pretty successful and famous.

      Was is more alarming is there are alot of "spring chicken" who think that being independent is more important than getting married.

      Edited by Gazelle 28 Feb `05, 1:31PM
  • mistyblue's Avatar
    11,455 posts since May '04
    • Sumiko... She's still as whinny as was 10 years back... Its not a wonder why her status didn't change Mr. Green

  • elindra's Avatar
    58,916 posts since Jun '04
    • Gaz, I believe in something called personal choice.

      If they choose to be single and is happy about it without regrets and complaints, why not?

      As for those who complain and gripe, well it is up to them do something about it. You can't mother them.

  • Queen of sgForums
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    FireIce's Avatar
    220,542 posts since Dec '99
    • Originally posted by mistyblue:
      Sumiko... She's still as whinny as was 10 years back... Its not a wonder why her status didn't change Mr. Green

      she still waiting for the prawn-peeler.....

  • elindra's Avatar
    58,916 posts since Jun '04
    • Originally posted by FireIce:
      she still waiting for the prawn-peeler.....

      Actually a lot of guys shell prawns for their girl. Rolling Eyes

  • Gazelle's Avatar
    6,395 posts since Jul '04
    • Originally posted by elindra:
      Gaz, I believe in something called personal choice.

      If they choose to be single and is happy about it without regrets and complaints, why not?

      As for those who complain and gripe, well it is up to them do something about it. You can't mother them.

      I believe it is something call a personal mistake instead of personal choice.

  • cooleo's Avatar
    1,691 posts since Dec '02
    • I can't believe the Shitty Times pay Sumiko to whine about being single for YEARS!!!

      It's one thing about being single and another to be talking about it on and on...

      (WHO'S NEXT TO GET PAID WHINING?! Mad )

  • mistyblue's Avatar
    11,455 posts since May '04
    • Originally posted by FireIce:
      she still waiting for the prawn-peeler.....

      She should go invent one in some mysterious science lab instead ...
      it would save her a couple of years of waiting for that mr right who peels prawns...

      Mr. Green
      Razz

    • Originally posted by FireIce:
      she still waiting for the prawn-peeler.....

      She should go invent one in some mysterious science lab instead ...
      it would save her a couple of years of waiting for that mr right who peels prawns...
      Maybe we see less whinning on papers... I like Karl Ho for some incisive things he said but this sumiko ... her style and her writing is like a broken recorder... You read one article, you have read the rest of the articles that she was going to write...

      Mr. Green
      Razz

      Edited by mistyblue 28 Feb `05, 2:00PM
  • Gazelle's Avatar
    6,395 posts since Jul '04
    • Originally posted by mistyblue:
      She should go invent one in some mysterious science lab instead ...
      it would save her a couple of years of waiting for that mr right who peels prawns...
      Maybe we see less whinning on papers... I like Karl Ho for some incisive things he said but this sumiko ... her style and her writing is like a broken recorder... You read one article, you have read the rest of the articles that she was going to write...

      Mr. Green
      Razz

      I am sure she is writing this article with certain audience in mind.

  • mistyblue's Avatar
    11,455 posts since May '04

    • But reading her articles all this while ... as a guy, would you date her and marry her... ??

  • av98m's Avatar
    43,003 posts since Oct '03
    • Sumiko Tan has one of the best jobs in Singapore, being paid to whinge about her singlehood, and I think she has a new disciple in Janice Wong(who hopefully will not also wind up still writing about being single when she hits the big four zero). Mr. Green

      Edited by av98m 28 Feb `05, 2:47PM
    • Originally posted by mistyblue:
      But reading her articles all this while ... as a guy, would you date her and marry her... ??

      I would stay far far away. Too neurotic. Reminds me of why I got sick of the Ally McBeal character after the first couple of seasons. The constant whining and trying to find that mythical perfect man was driving me nuts! Confused

  • mistyblue's Avatar
    11,455 posts since May '04
  • elindra's Avatar
    58,916 posts since Jun '04
    • Originally posted by Gazelle:
      I believe it is something call a personal mistake instead of personal choice.

      Well I believe when one starts to regret their choice, it becomes a personal mistake Mr. Green

  • www's Avatar
    17,838 posts since Oct '99
    • topics like singlehood, battle of the sexes are easily few of the most controversial articles in singapore's newspaper.

      when they ran out of spicy things to write about, these sorta topics are top of their reserve list to increase readership, hopefully circulations.

  • dreamykite's Avatar
    548 posts since Jun '03
    • I think Sumiko Tan is right. After 40s, it ll definitly be lonely if you still haven't found a partner yet. Youth is an asset just like big boobs and use your asset while you have it. I admire her courage to write her true feelings to warn those who think they are still 'young'. Wink

  • crazy monkey's Avatar
    9,810 posts since Dec '04
    • Originally posted by dreamykite:
      I think Sumiko Tan is right. After 40s, it ll definitly be lonely if you still haven't found a partner yet. Youth is an asset just like big boobs and use your asset while you have it. I admire her courage to write her true feelings to warn those who think they are still 'young'. Wink

      after forty can still get married wat. Rolling Eyes

  • dreamykite's Avatar
    548 posts since Jun '03
    • Originally posted by crazy monkey:
      after forty can still get married wat. Rolling Eyes

      Of course you can marry at forties, which most men hving such ideas. He can purchase a China/Vietnamese wife. Marry whichever woman who agrees to trade with him. Most men are narrow minded, they allow themselves to take their own sweet time to get marry but, want to marry a young and beautiful wife. Always half their age. To man, youth & beauty & big boobs are more important than having an intelligent brain. Who he cares if she is from RGS. Even if communication break down they also dont mine, they had perceived miscommunication as a sweet silence communion.

      To be realistic, when a women hits her 30s, most Asian men already categorise her over the hill category.

      Edited by dreamykite 28 Feb `05, 8:35PM
  • ShrodingersCat's Avatar
    7,581 posts since Jul '04
    • Mebbe Sumiko Tan doesn't want to get married
      becos .. she will have nothing to write about

      Anyway its all poppycock
      Everything is in mentality
      Marriage is about companionship and happiness
      not about some desperate lunge to get 'promotion' in status

  • Gazelle's Avatar
    6,395 posts since Jul '04
    • Originally posted by crazy monkey:
      after forty can still get married wat. Rolling Eyes

      you can still get married when you turn 50, the only problem is that you have to start compromising...alot!!

    • Originally posted by ShrodingersCat:
      Mebbe Sumiko Tan doesn't want to get married
      becos .. she will have nothing to write about

      Anyway its all poppycock
      Everything is in mentality
      Marriage is about companionship and happiness
      not about some desperate lunge to get 'promotion' in status

      I think you have to give some respect to a women who have the courage to admit to her own mistake in the paper.

  • oldbreadstinks's Avatar
    3,170 posts since Dec '03
    • Originally posted by dreamykite:
      Of course you can marry at forties, which most men hving such ideas. He can purchase a China/Vietnamese wife. Marry whichever woman who agrees to trade with him. Most men are narrow minded, they allow themselves to take their own sweet time to get marry but, want to marry a young and beautiful wife. Always half their age. To man, youth & beauty & big boobs are more important than having an intelligent brain. Who he cares if she is from RGS. Even if communication break down they also dont mine, they had perceived miscommunication as a sweet silence communion.

      To be realistic, when a women hits her 30s, most Asian men already categorise her over the hill category.

      intelligent? but the problem is most have high IQ but no EQ

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