Im not into politics , but i as a commoner would like to know what are the oppositon parties offering to us... ???

And pls explain in layman terms , not in highly chim political terms.

Thank yOu .

why ask such a question when the commoners only give very limited chance to opposition party members?currently there is only Mr low thia kiang,Mr chiam see tong and Ms Sylvia Lim heading the opposition in parliment.With only the 3 of them,their voice matters so little as the govt is formed majorly from PAP. So if the commmoners do not give a chance to the opposition,dun expect the oppostions to offer anything substantial back as they have no/little power to go against the self approved,no feedback allowed PAP.

So,unless you voted for the oppostion,dun come ask such a question.......

Originally posted by GenX:

why ask such a question when the commoners only give very limited chance to opposition party members?currently there is only Mr low thia kiang,Mr chiam see tong and Ms Sylvia Lim heading the opposition in parliment.With only the 3 of them,their voice matters so little as the govt is formed majorly from PAP. So if the commmoners do not give a chance to the opposition,dun expect the oppostions to offer anything substantial back as they have no/little power to go against the self approved,no feedback allowed PAP.

So,unless you voted for the oppostion,dun come ask such a question.......

All im asking for is what they are offering or wanted to offer in the past elections or is offering or fighting for now.

Did you vote for the oppositions??? If yes , care to explain why you voted for them and wat did they want to offer.

And what type of attitude is that , telling ppl to butt off unless i voted for them , so the only way to find out what they are offering is to vote for them ????

Obviously i cant vote for them unless i know what they are offering right????

No solid plans

Just keep critising

So do you all think got people vote for this kind of people?

Don't understand why called them oppositions, where they are just political parties just like PAP. Anyway which party you are asking for?

by their deeds, we know what they offer..

they have been working hard for their constituency... and therein, we know they are earnest.. and right now, that's good enough

in the past and also now, there are many out there who think that supporting the opposition no matter who it is is cool and all that.. but they forget what you have asked..

it is a great question..

what does the opposition fellas offer the people...

some offer their services, an alternative to the MIW, and they are willing to work for the people and work hard for the people..

some.. don't offer much except a rant or two.. some stunts... appearance during the elections..

by their deeds, their intent and their actions, we know and we vote

Originally posted by GenX:

why ask such a question when the commoners only give very limited chance to opposition party members?currently there is only Mr low thia kiang,Mr chiam see tong and Ms Sylvia Lim heading the opposition in parliment.With only the 3 of them,their voice matters so little as the govt is formed majorly from PAP. So if the commmoners do not give a chance to the opposition,dun expect the oppostions to offer anything substantial back as they have no/little power to go against the self approved,no feedback allowed PAP.

So,unless you voted for the oppostion,dun come ask such a question.......

A genuine voice in parliament? Imagine if there's no opposition in parliament, there will be nobody to question the PAP's policies. And there will be more and more instances of raising the ministers' pay to prevent them from being corrupted or raising GST to help the poor, and the yet claiming that the majority of the people support it!

Originally posted by gUms:

All im asking for is what they are offering or wanted to offer in the past elections or is offering or fighting for now.

Did you vote for the oppositions??? If yes , care to explain why you voted for them and wat did they want to offer.

And what type of attitude is that , telling ppl to butt off unless i voted for them , so the only way to find out what they are offering is to vote for them ????

Obviously i cant vote for them unless i know what they are offering right????

well you did not ask what they wanted to offer,you asked what are they offering?

Ain't it obvious if they are not the govt,they are not the one who can decide on the policies and thus they cannot offer much as the voice in govt is PAP.

It is not my attitude,it is the way your question is asked.You asked what i deemed was an invalid question since the oppostion are not in power.So i just replied you based on that that they cannot offer much cos they are not in power.So dun blame me.

If you dun want people to reply you in ways you do not like,next time phrase your question in a clearer way.Beside it is true that if you did not vote for them, you should not be asking what they are offering.

Anyway i only vote oppostions i deem worthy and my only chance was a choice of choosing the clown chee soon juan.I deem him unworthy so i did not vote for him and also since i have not voted any oppostion b4,i will not ask what they are offering me. Plain and simple.

Originally posted by gUms:

All im asking for is what they are offering or wanted to offer in the past elections or is offering or fighting for now.

Did you vote for the oppositions??? If yes , care to explain why you voted for them and wat did they want to offer.

And what type of attitude is that , telling ppl to butt off unless i voted for them , so the only way to find out what they are offering is to vote for them ????

Obviously i cant vote for them unless i know what they are offering right????

At present, I don't think they have made any plans yet (I might be wrong), if they already made plans, isn't it more akin to counting your chicks before they hatch. The opposition still has some way to go before winning more than 50% of the electorates. It's an uphill task when local media tend to play favouritism when it comes to political agenda. Unless you have secured a close to 50% majority in the past election, else there is no need to make such plans.

Freedom from oppressive regime who exploit the populace for their own personal benefit.

A balance of power so that no single party dominates the system and pass oppressive laws and tax.

Originally posted by maurizio13:

Freedom from oppressive regime who exploit the populace for their own personal benefit.

A balance of power so that no single party dominates the system and pass oppressive laws and tax.

ahhh , thank you very much ....

I can't see why one cannot google for info on the internet, instead waiting for knowledge to be delivered to him on a silver platter.

Originally posted by GenX:

well you did not ask what they wanted to offer,you asked what are they offering?

Ain't it obvious if they are not the govt,they are not the one who can decide on the policies and thus they cannot offer much as the voice in govt is PAP.

It is not my attitude,it is the way your question is asked.You asked what i deemed was an invalid question since the oppostion are not in power.So i just replied you based on that that they cannot offer much cos they are not in power.So dun blame me.

If you dun want people to reply you in ways you do not like,next time phrase your question in a clearer way.Beside it is true that if you did not vote for them, you should not be asking what they are offering.

Anyway i only vote oppostions i deem worthy and my only chance was a choice of choosing the clown chee soon juan.I deem him unworthy so i did not vote for him and also since i have not voted any oppostion b4,i will not ask what they are offering me. Plain and simple.

OK

Originally posted by the Bear:

by their deeds, we know what they offer..

they have been working hard for their constituency... and therein, we know they are earnest.. and right now, that's good enough

in the past and also now, there are many out there who think that supporting the opposition no matter who it is is cool and all that.. but they forget what you have asked..

it is a great question..

what does the opposition fellas offer the people...

some offer their services, an alternative to the MIW, and they are willing to work for the people and work hard for the people..

some.. don't offer much except a rant or two.. some stunts... appearance during the elections..

by their deeds, their intent and their actions, we know and we vote

well that i know,the opposition namely Mr Chiam and Mr Low is fully capable of running their constituency and i think they are doing a great job given the limited power and funding they get.Hougang and Potong Pasir are definately not some slum area like the PAP often want us to believe.

Currently even thou the opposition may not be great in coming up with alternative plans and such to bring greater benefit as compared to the PAP (but well we never know anyway since they were not given any chance but at least they are doing what they can in the name of the people as compared to the PAP who has long forgotten the people,the very one who voted them in.That alone is something great they can offer if more of them worthy opposition get voted into parliment.

But until the day i actually give them the vote,i will not expect stuff from them since i know they are up against heavy odds inside parliament.Hope that during the next election,they can field good candidates

Originally posted by Rock^Star:

I can't see why one cannot google for info on the internet, instead waiting for knowledge to be delivered to him on a silver platter.

cOs like i said , i wan it to be explained in layman terms , and come on la bro , what is forums for??? to ask and discuss right????

Just opening a topic and asking ppl online stuffs , and you get shot down and being told that you wan things on a silver platter????

Doesnt mean , what you understand others will understand right???

Then let me ask u something , You come to online forums for what? Find girlfriend ar ??? or ask and discuss about things ???

from the leaders, you can see what the party is capable of offering too... their leader shows the way and the principles of the party..

you will see some people being dropped in the next elections as they have disgraced their party..

and you will see some people continue to pander disgraceful "policies" as a party platform...

by giving your support for those you feel will be able to serve the country, or to be able to inspire others to be better able to serve the country, you also serve the country..

and here, the country is not just an entity but the country is the people..

your vote is your duty to your country...

and the country is way more important than anything, it is greater than mere gratitude for past works, it is greater than mere party loyalty, it is way way WAY greater than how cool it is to "support" someone..

it is your country.. and your people.... it is We, The Citizens of Singapore...

Originally posted by gUms:

cOs like i said , i wan it to be explained in layman terms , and come on la bro , what is forums for??? to ask and discuss right????

Just opening a topic and asking ppl online stuffs , and you get shot down and being told that you wan things on a silver platter????

Doesnt mean , what you understand others will understand right???

Then let me ask u something , You come to online forums for what? Find girlfriend ar ??? or ask and discuss about things ???

Like you have put it, in layman terms. Your topic question seems like one asking to be taught the basics of flight.

Instead of asking generically "what opposition can offer", perhaps you may like to read through the history of threads in Speakers' Corner. You will learn much much more, I assure you.

I don't mean to shoot anyone down but in your case, you ought to be. Your laziness is not a demerit that forumites here have to make up for.

Originally posted by Rock^Star:

Like you have put it, in layman terms. Your topic question seems like one asking to be taught the basics of flight.

Instead of asking generically "what opposition can offer", perhaps you may like to read through the history of threads in Speakers' Corner. You will learn much much more, I assure you.

I don't mean to shoot anyone down but in your case, you ought to be. Your laziness is not a demerit that forumites here have to make up for.

What ever bro ..... Anyway next time dont waste your time in posting .

And if you dont understand or wan to learn something , u should ask right ???
Anyway stop wasting my time , I dont need your comments ...

Not happy with a topic or you deem is dumb or by a lazy forumer , why bother replying and wasting your time.

What are the oppositions offering to us Singaporeans?

Right from the horse's mouth:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnLqpYupQfg&eurl=http://cheesoonjuan.blogspot.com/

Originally posted by gUms:

What ever bro ..... Anyway next time dont waste your time in posting .

And if you dont understand or wan to learn something , u should ask right ???
Anyway stop wasting my time , I dont need your comments ...

Not happy with a topic or you deem is dumb or by by a lazy forumer , why bother reply.

It's nothing personal. I look forward to a debate / discussion on your views and beliefs if the chance permits.

Meanwhile, the Speakers' Corner's history of threads is just a click away.

You may also like to try theonlinecitizen.com for a start.

My $0.02 worth.

Originally posted by Rock^Star:

It's nothing personal. I look forward to a debate / discussion on your views and beliefs if the chance permits.

Meanwhile, the Speakers' Corner's history of threads is just a click away.

You may also like to try theonlinecitizen.com for a start.

My $0.02 worth.

Thanks for the link , Im looking in there now.

Originally posted by gUms:

Im not into politics , but i as a commoner would like to know what are the oppositon parties offering to us... ???

And pls explain in layman terms , not in highly chim political terms.

Thank yOu .

You should re-phrase your question to :

Why talented people do not form a new party to bring sg to better place to work and live in terms of Quality of Life ?

Its nothing to do with opposition. Its got to do with sg'rean.

Originally posted by Rock^Star:

I can't see why one cannot google for info on the internet, instead waiting for knowledge to be delivered to him on a silver platter.

BeGGar CaNt See The ReAson N LoGic That WhY TS CannOt Ask.

Pls PrACtisE WhAT U PreAch - DoNt Ever ASK ANY QUESTION IN THE FORUM.

Pls DoNt Let Me CaTch U Asking QuEstion.

FrOm Now onWarDs, EVery QueStion YOu ASK, yOU ARe SLAPPING YOUR OWN FACE.



THIS IS THE ANSWER YOU WILL GET FOR EVERY "?" IN YOUR POSTING.

i can't see why one cannot google for info on the internet, instead waiting for knowledge to be delivered to him on a silver platter.

If I am able to offer all those below will you vote for me?

Governance
A leader who righteous and trustworthy. Working hard to serve for the people. A leader who is able to build a strong government that can take on any opposition party at anytime anywhere. A government that is able to crush and wipe the rival out easily.

Economic
The government who are able to build a strong and rich economic, the economic that are able to fund Technology R&D which create product sellable worldwide in time of peace. It must be able to generate huge financial reserves 10 times better then China and Japan, that are able to defend any form of currency attack, and economic crisis. It must be flexible enough to fund the type of industrials that being needed just like the Meiji restoration did in Japan. It can also be transform into a Nazi war economic in time of war.

Technology
A government that is able to produce another Islamic Golden Age that is stressing the value of knowledge, and became the unrivaled intellectual center for science, philosophy, medicine and education. To established a "House of Wisdom" in Singapore; where scholars sought to translate and gather all the world's knowledge.

Military
To build a mighty military that is as deadly as the Nazi, as scary as the Japanese Imperial army and equips them with the latest advance weapon.

Colonialism/ Gobalization
Building a Singapore culture that is able to influence the Arab Muslim, the Russian communist, the Europe republic and the American democratic and make them all kudos to us and follow us. Culture invasion is better then force invasion.

More to come………..

Originally posted by maggot:

No solid plans

Just keep critising

So do you all think got people vote for this kind of people?

The smart ones got smart.
The opposition are now trying to better the already good, so that the good will be even better.

The idiotic ones are still contentious, critizing, condemning, and complaining, crapping. Thats their 5 C's.
Its D for dwindling for them.
So they are here in this forum, to garner the impressionable with their 5 C's.

Originally posted by royston_ang:

A genuine voice in parliament? Imagine if there's no opposition in parliament, there will be nobody to question the PAP's policies. And there will be more and more instances of raising the ministers' pay to prevent them from being corrupted or raising GST to help the poor, and the yet claiming that the majority of the people support it!

The PM said majority of the ppl wanted to retain the 377A act, so governemnt obliged, but on the other hand, majority are against the ministerial increament in salary, but they just dont care. what a contradiction, PM Lee