Should Singaporeans pay even for "Gifts from Heaven" ?
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It was recently published in the Straits Times that it will be ILLEGAL for Singaporeans to collect RAINWATER for the purpose of washing cars, gardening, and washing.
The reason given was that any “Private” actions in collecting rainwater will deprive that amount from the National Pool that can put all rainwater to more effective use.
It was not mentioned in the Straits Times report if the law is effective immediately, or if it is soon to be introduced for debate prior to legislation.
Is this another draconian heavy handed Governmental approach in preventing even the Private use of GodÂ’s gift to All Man?
Is this a Reasonable and Logical Demand to the ever-obedient Singaporean Citizens to supposed “National Priorities”?
Or is this an Unreasonable Demand to prevent Singaporeans from having any easy access to FREE “water from heaven”, and make everyone pay for the “SKY JUICE” that would have been free even to the Water Department? -
eh? I didn't see the article, not sure if its true, but if it is, and if it is just as Atobe described it, this is one policy I won't support. . ., if we are able to collect the water form a particular place at all, it means National Pools does not have a reservoir or pond underneath to collect the water, so whats wrong with collecting water from there??? other than the fact that it'll stop us from turning the tap so often since we already have water for certain uses that do not require very clean water. . .
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read carefully lah.... THEY never say that it is illegal to collect rainwater for simple uses like washing cars and such...Originally posted by Atobe:It was recently published in the Straits Times that it will be ILLEGAL for Singaporeans to collect RAINWATER for the purpose of washing cars, gardening, and washing.
The reason given was that any “Private?actions in collecting rainwater will deprive that amount from the National Pool that can put all rainwater to more effective use.
It was not mentioned in the Straits Times report if the law is effective immediately, or if it is soon to be introduced for debate prior to legislation.
Is this another draconian heavy handed Governmental approach in preventing even the Private use of GodÂ’s gift to All Man?
Is this a Reasonable and Logical Demand to the ever-obedient Singaporean Citizens to supposed “National Priorities?
Or is this an Unreasonable Demand to prevent Singaporeans from having any easy access to FREE “water from heaven? and make everyone pay for the “SKY JUICE?that would have been free even to the Water Department?
BUT they dont want people to build EXTENDSIVE systems through engineering with the aim of collecting massive amount of water to meet their own personal needs...
and who are the ones who could build such a system?? RICH RICH LANDLORDS that are ever so calculative of their money.... we people live in HDB... where got land to collect rainwater?? hang buckets outside our windows??? -
Unfortunately, the principle of the matter is “whether God’s Gifts from Heaven should be charged by any Authorities?” and not if the “Rich Landlord” is too rich to deserve God’s Gifts from Heaven.
Who are the “rich landlords”?
To begin with, they are basically the Property Developers – Private (Far East, CDL) and Public (HDB, Capital Land, etc) - that affect the lives of the average Singaporeans who purchase these developed properties - and with the average Singaporeans ending up being the final 'Landlords' - (and doubtfully rich).
While at this early stage, there is some leeway for domestic collection of rainwater, what is there to prevent a legislaton that make such domestic collections to be illegal at a later stage? – as has happened so often in Singapore, the Authorities implement policies at a pace of one little step at a time, and with each step enveloping the citizens with another increment in the cost factor.
What about the few industries – such as Hydroponics Farms, Tropical Fisheries, Orchid Farms, Wafer Fab etc – that are heavily dependent on water?
Should these enterprises be prevented from collecting “God’s Gifts From Heaven”, and allow a Utility Company to monopolize the collection and sale of God’s Gifts from Heaven?
Why prevent the supposed “rich landlords” from making use of their property to collect rain water; as after all, such properties have already paid a very high cost in development charges to the Authorities – that only add up to the cost of the development?
With the high cost of land that is artificially dictated largely by URA in its release of land sold to developers, and the high development charges that follow, it will be the Property Owners (domestic and industrial) that will finally pay for the high cost of Owning and Operating the developed property.
Any ‘engineering’ design in an HDB or Private Condominium that help to capture “God’s Gifts from Heaven”, can only assist in some way to lower the monthly maintenance charges that can hit our pockets.
Should we not look at the overall picture of how much rainfall actually occur in Singapore throughout the year, and determine how much water goes into the soil – (which belongs to the state, as no Singaporean is allowed to draw water from the soil that their home is built on, except for those few remaining attap homes with wells) – and how much water goes out to sea, and determine what is the remaining amount going to the drains and canals leading to the catchment areas? -
Well, being a Singaporean, we all get used to pay this and pay that. We pay to donate(1900), we pay for wanting to own a car (COE), we pay for using the roads(ERP) etc... too many to list. We soon hv to pay for the air we breath...Originally posted by Atobe:It was recently published in the Straits Times that it will be ILLEGAL for Singaporeans to collect RAINWATER for the purpose of washing cars, gardening, and washing.
The reason given was that any “Private” actions in collecting rainwater will deprive that amount from the National Pool that can put all rainwater to more effective use.
It was not mentioned in the Straits Times report if the law is effective immediately, or if it is soon to be introduced for debate prior to legislation.
Is this another draconian heavy handed Governmental approach in preventing even the Private use of GodÂ’s gift to All Man?
Is this a Reasonable and Logical Demand to the ever-obedient Singaporean Citizens to supposed “National Priorities”?
Or is this an Unreasonable Demand to prevent Singaporeans from having any easy access to FREE “water from heaven”, and make everyone pay for the “SKY JUICE” that would have been free even to the Water Department?
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Terrorist do not read newspaper... they create their own rules.Originally posted by laser51088:eh? I didn't see the article, not sure if its true, but if it is, and if it is just as Atobe described it, this is one policy I won't support. . ., if we are able to collect the water form a particular place at all, it means National Pools does not have a reservoir or pond underneath to collect the water, so whats wrong with collecting water from there??? other than the fact that it'll stop us from turning the tap so often since we already have water for certain uses that do not require very clean water. . .
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Anyway, sidetrack abit.
If you call watever topic you guys were talking about a 'gift from Heaven'
I'm wondering why people in other countries ain't glad when rain a gift from heaven came and flood their land.
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wow if realy is illegal then realy funy liao!
rainwater is free wat...hmm...
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NOTHING is free in this world, everything has a price...Originally posted by Xiao Long Nu:wow if realy is illegal then realy funy liao!
rainwater is free wat...hmm...
before you can collect 'free water' from the sky.... you need a house
before you can get a house... you need legal, economic and judicial enforcement power to let you own a piece of land or house...
before you can have legal, economic and judicial enforcement power(police), you first need a country...
before you can have a country... you need a millitary establishment...
Thus as you can see.... nothing is free....
without military, you dont have a country...
no country... no police...no laws and certainly no deeds and titles of ownership can be filed before a court....
no country, no laws.... where got land and house to collect your 'free water'????
another way of putting it.... IF you own a landed property... and it rains one day... can ALL you neighbours living nearby and in the HDB flats JUST go into you landed property and starts to collect the 'free rainwater'??
Since the rainwater is FREE... ALL should be permited to recieved as much as they want, even if it means climbing on top of your roof tops or trampling across you lawn.... afterall... since the rainwater is a gift from heaven... NO man should claim ANY part of it to himself... but mUST be shared among all around... -
Tell that to the Members of Parliament who will soon be voting to legislate a law to make it illegal to collect rainwater.Originally posted by tripwire:... NO man should claim ANY part of it to himself... but mUST be shared among all around...
They will charge you per cubic meter of rainwater that is used, and on top of that - will also charge you 4% GST for the bill incurred.