Malicious Propaganda against Singapore
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Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:
And all the reports stated by you are inconclusive by nature. In fact, the scientific community are confused by the origins of the Malays.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malays_(ethnic_group)
In fact, the Malays are considered Austronesian people and hence probably the New Zealand theory is more probable than the Yunnan theory.
If you have to depend on wikipedia, why have you not google it correctly and seek the origins from wikipedia site: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prehistoric_Malaysia[Quote]
The theory of Proto Malay originating from Yunnan is supported by R.H Geldern, J.H.C Kern, J.R Foster, J.R Logen, Slametmuljana and Asmah Haji Omar. The Proto Malay (Melayu asli) who first arrived possessed agricultural skills while the second wave Deutero Malay (mixed blood) who joined in around 1500 BC and dwelled along the coastlines have advanced fishery skills. During the migration, both groups intermarried with peoples of the southern islands, such as those from Java (Indonesian), and also with aboriginal peoples of Australoid, Negrito and Melanesoid origin.
Other evidences that support this theory include:
- Stone tools found at Malay archipelago are analogous to Central Asian tools.
- Similarity of Malay customs and Assam customs.
- Malay language & Cambodian language are kindred languages because the ancestral home of Cambodians originated from the source of Mekong River.
References:
- The Encyclopedia of Malaysia : Early History, Volume 4 / edited by Nik Hassan Shuhaimi Nik Abdul Rahman [1]
- The Encyclopedia of Malaysia : Languages and Literature, Volume 9 / edited by Prof. Dato' Dr. Asmah Haji Omar [2]
- Crawford’s 1822 Malay of Champa
- The Book of Anushirwan, The Cham Muslims of Southeast Asia: A Historical Note.
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Even Dr M. Mahathir got into trouble with Tunku Abdul Rahman and UMNO - when Dr M mentioned in his book "The Malay Dilemma" - that the Malays were migrants from their homeland in the Yunnan mountain.
Are you an authority to state so confidently that these reports are inconclusive by nature - when you depend on unknown sources that dare make such a claim ?
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Originally posted by Atobe:
If you have to depend on wikipedia, why have you not google it correctly and seek the origins from wikipedia site: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prehistoric_Malaysia[Quote]
The theory of Proto Malay originating from Yunnan is supported by R.H Geldern, J.H.C Kern, J.R Foster, J.R Logen, Slametmuljana and Asmah Haji Omar. The Proto Malay (Melayu asli) who first arrived possessed agricultural skills while the second wave Deutero Malay (mixed blood) who joined in around 1500 BC and dwelled along the coastlines have advanced fishery skills. During the migration, both groups intermarried with peoples of the southern islands, such as those from Java (Indonesian), and also with aboriginal peoples of Australoid, Negrito and Melanesoid origin.
Other evidences that support this theory include:
- Stone tools found at Malay archipelago are analogous to Central Asian tools.
- Similarity of Malay customs and Assam customs.
- Malay language & Cambodian language are kindred languages because the ancestral home of Cambodians originated from the source of Mekong River.
References:
- The Encyclopedia of Malaysia : Early History, Volume 4 / edited by Nik Hassan Shuhaimi Nik Abdul Rahman [1]
- The Encyclopedia of Malaysia : Languages and Literature, Volume 9 / edited by Prof. Dato' Dr. Asmah Haji Omar [2]
- Crawford’s 1822 Malay of Champa
- The Book of Anushirwan, The Cham Muslims of Southeast Asia: A Historical Note.
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Even Dr M. Mahathir got into trouble with Tunku Abdul Rahman and UMNO - when Dr M mentioned in his book "The Malay Dilemma" - that the Malays were migrants from their homeland in the Yunnan mountain.
Are you an authority to state so confidently that these reports are inconclusive by nature - when you depend on unknown sources that dare make such a claim ?
What melayu asli? You go figure out their DNA similarity first and talk less nonsense. -
Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:
What melayu asli? You go figure out their DNA similarity first and talk less nonsense.
Perhaps you should examine your DNA as a "zwei-siao-pseudo-Bavarian-Hog" - which may come close to those pathetic claimants as "sons of the soil" - whom you are so willingly to have them inherit Singapore island.For one who has been repeatedly exposed for all the "zwei-siao" nonsense - you are the obvious authority to judge on "nonsense" - can you be the authority to judge on any other issues besides your expertise with "nonsense" ?
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Originally posted by Atobe:
Perhaps you should examine your DNA as a "zwei-siao-pseudo-Bavarian-Hog" - which may come close to those pathetic claimants as "sons of the soil" - whom you are so willingly to have them inherit Singapore island.For one who has been repeatedly exposed for all the "zwei-siao" nonsense - you are the obvious authority to judge on "nonsense" - can you be the authority to judge on any other issues besides your expertise with "nonsense" ?
You can go ask Stamford Raffles about the terms he discussed with the Sultan of Johore on purchasing the then island of Temasek for the British East India Company. As I had said about the orang asli, there is no melayu asli but the original people as per standard translation.As for DNA evidence, many geneticists have concurred that orang asli shared more similarities with the austronesians than those of the old Chamgpa empire.
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Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:
You can go ask Stamford Raffles about the terms he discussed with the Sultan of Johore on purchasing the then island of Temasek for the British East India Company. As I had said about the orang asli, there is no melayu asli but the original people as per standard translation.As for DNA evidence, many geneticists have concurred that orang asli shared more similarities with the austronesians than those of the old Chamgpa empire.
Did you talk to the late Stamford Raffles about what ?The origins of the Malays ?
Between the migration of the Malays from Yunnan into Peninsular Malaya and the time when the Sultanate of Johor existed - and when Raffles negotiated for the Singapore Islands in 1819 - did you check the history of events that transpired over a length of time that stretched over how many centuries ?
How do you think the Johor Sultanate came about ?
Did you check with your geneticists of your own DNA - that require you to assume a cartoonic character as a "zwei-siao-pseudo-Bavarian-Hog" to insist on the Malays as the original people of Singapore ?
Who are the geneticists that you claim to have checked with ?
What are their credentials to make them an authority that you will stake your "zwei-siao" reputation on - as if you need any more to make a bad situation worst ?
Will your geneticists dare to contradict what other anthropologists from so many different countries have found - as mentioned in the references in my last response ?
Or has this entire episode been another one of your characteristic red herring to obfuscate the main issue with a side-show of your own creation ?
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Originally posted by Atobe:
Did you talk to the late Stamford Raffles about what ?The origins of the Malays ?
Between the migration of the Malays from Yunnan into Peninsular Malaya and the time when the Sultanate of Johor existed - and when Raffles negotiated for the Singapore Islands in 1819 - did you check the history of events that transpired over a length of time that stretched over how many centuries ?
How do you think the Johor Sultanate came about ?
Did you check with your geneticists of your own DNA - that require you to assume a cartoonic character as a "zwei-siao-pseudo-Bavarian-Hog" to insist on the Malays as the original people of Singapore ?
Who are the geneticists that you claim to have checked with ?
What are their credentials to make them an authority that you will stake your "zwei-siao" reputation on - as if you need any more to make a bad situation worst ?
Will your geneticists dare to contradict what other anthropologists from so many different countries have found - as mentioned in the references in my last response ?
Or has this entire episode been another one of your characteristic red herring to obfuscate the main issue with a side-show of your own creation ?
I don't think I can ask any geneticist about your DNA origins since you came from a place of shit, Turdistan. We all know that the origins of Malays cannot be trutfully verified since there are many anthropologists who disagree over the topic.
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Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:
I don't think I can ask any geneticist about your DNA origins since you came from a place of shit, Turdistan. We all know that the origins of Malays cannot be trutfully verified since there are many anthropologists who disagree over the topic.
Did it take a "zwei-siao-Hog" fourteen days to find out that it cannot ask any geneticist about the DNA origins of what it will call to be an ‘Aturdie’ - a creation from its own brilliance as one too embarrassed to admit being from a Turd World Country called Turdistan ?The only anthropologists who disagree over the topic is the pseudo-anthropologist who is also a pseudo-Bavarian-HOG - both played by the resident "zwei-siao-HOG" - who will even dispute acclaimed authorities that have accepted the origin of their own race.
Dr M. Mahathir in his book 'The Malay Dilemma' even claimed that the Malays were migrants from Yunnan Province as he had accepted the researches of other reknown anthropoligists that a "zwei-siao-Hog" will not.
Even LKY was quoted to have said in 1965 :-
"According to history, Malays began to migrate to Malaysia in noticeable numbers only about 700 years ago. Of the 39 percent Malays in Malaysia today, about one-third are comparatively new immigrants like the secretary-general of UMNO, Dato' Syed Ja'afar Albar, who came to Malaya from Indonesia just before the war at the age of more than thirty. Therefore it is wrong and illogical for a particular racial group to think that they are more justified to be called Malaysians and that the others can become Malaysian only through their favour." — Lee Kuan Yew (in 1964 or 1965), — Ye, Lin-Sheng (2003). The Chinese Dilemma, p. 43. East West Publishing. ISBN 0-9751646-1-9.
The only verification that a "zwei-siao-Hog" will accept is when it has the "dickie in its mouth" to chew over, and satisfy its "men-o-pausal" impotence that makes it into such a highly strung tiny package of squeaky fire cracker.
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Originally posted by Atobe:
Did it take a "zwei-siao-Hog" fourteen days to find out that it cannot ask any geneticist about the DNA origins of what it will call to be an ‘Aturdie’ - a creation from its own brilliance as one too embarrassed to admit being from a Turd World Country called Turdistan ?The only anthropologists who disagree over the topic is the pseudo-anthropologist who is also a pseudo-Bavarian-HOG - both played by the resident "zwei-siao-HOG" - who will even dispute acclaimed authorities that have accepted the origin of their own race.
Dr M. Mahathir in his book 'The Malay Dilemma' even claimed that the Malays were migrants from Yunnan Province as he had accepted the researches of other reknown anthropoligists that a "zwei-siao-Hog" will not.
Even LKY was quoted to have said in 1965 :-
"According to history, Malays began to migrate to Malaysia in noticeable numbers only about 700 years ago. Of the 39 percent Malays in Malaysia today, about one-third are comparatively new immigrants like the secretary-general of UMNO, Dato' Syed Ja'afar Albar, who came to Malaya from Indonesia just before the war at the age of more than thirty. Therefore it is wrong and illogical for a particular racial group to think that they are more justified to be called Malaysians and that the others can become Malaysian only through their favour." — Lee Kuan Yew (in 1964 or 1965), — Ye, Lin-Sheng (2003). The Chinese Dilemma, p. 43. East West Publishing. ISBN 0-9751646-1-9.
The only verification that a "zwei-siao-Hog" will accept is when it has the "dickie in its mouth" to chew over, and satisfy its "men-o-pausal" impotence that makes it into such a highly strung tiny package of squeaky fire cracker.
Aturdie is truly a fool as he likes to believe in conspiracy theories and could not trust scientific DNA compliations. This shows that Aturdie comes from a Turd world country called Turdistan and can only understand shit.
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Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:
Aturdie is truly a fool as he likes to believe in conspiracy theories and could not trust scientific DNA compliations. This shows that Aturdie comes from a Turd world country called Turdistan and can only understand shit.
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Nasi lemak, Popiah and otak!!!
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Originally posted by angel7030:
Nasi lemak, Popiah and otak!!!
Chao Chee Bye Taiwanese Hum!!! -
Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:
Aturdie is truly a fool as he likes to believe in conspiracy theories and could not trust scientific DNA compliations. This shows that Aturdie comes from a Turd world country called Turdistan and can only understand shit.
What Scientific DNA compilations has been offered by a "zwei-siao-HOG" - who cannot even produce its sources for its hot gas claims - that the Malays are not from Yunnan Province, and that the Malays are the true Singaporean "sons-of-the-soil" - while every other ethnic groups are immigrants in Singapore ?
Why will an accomplished "zwei-siao-HOG" insist itself to be even more "zwei-siao" than even LKY ?
For the entire Malayan Penisular including Singapore, even LKY had stated:-
"According to history, Malays began to migrate to Malaysia in noticeable numbers only about 700 years ago.
Of the 39 percent Malays in Malaysia today, about one-third are comparatively new immigrants like the secretary-general of UMNO, Dato' Syed Ja'afar Albar, who came to Malaya from Indonesia just before the war at the age of more than thirty.
Therefore it is wrong and illogical for a particular racial group to think that they are more justified to be called Malaysians and that the others can become Malaysian only through their favour." — Lee Kuan Yew (in 1964 or 1965), — Ye, Lin-Sheng (2003). The Chinese Dilemma, p. 43. East West Publishing. ISBN 0-9751646-1-9.
Can a "zwei-siao-HOG" be skilled enough to hide itself from being a citizen of a Turd World Country called Turdistan, even as it fight so hard to stick a label ‘Aturdie’ that continue to torment its poor hog brain ?
It could be more convincing in a role as a pseudo-Bavarian-HOG except that the aura of the "zwei-siao" existence will always form a cloud over it, and reveal the presence of the "zwei-siao-HOG" in all its glorious forms - lighting up CSJ's dickie in its mouth, as it delude itself smoking, sucking and chewing it as a cigar.
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Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:
Chao Chee Bye Taiwanese Hum!!!
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Originally posted by Atobe:
What Scientific DNA compilations has been offered by a "zwei-siao-HOG" - who cannot even produce its sources for its hot gas claims - that the Malays are not from Yunnan Province, and that the Malays are the true Singaporean "sons-of-the-soil" - while every other ethnic groups are immigrants in Singapore ?
Why will an accomplished "zwei-siao-HOG" insist itself to be even more "zwei-siao" than even LKY ?
For the entire Malayan Penisular including Singapore, even LKY had stated:-
Can a "zwei-siao-HOG" be skilled enough to hide itself from being a citizen of a Turd World Country called Turdistan, even as it fight so hard to stick a label ‘Aturdie’ that continue to torment its poor hog brain ?
It could be more convincing in a role as a pseudo-Bavarian-HOG except that the aura of the "zwei-siao" existence will always form a cloud over it, and reveal the presence of the "zwei-siao-HOG" in all its glorious forms - lighting up CSJ's dickie in its mouth, as it delude itself smoking, sucking and chewing it as a cigar.
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Originally posted by light 123:
I need more support in teaching the ignorant barbarian ATurdy that neither PAP nor CSJ is fit to rule Singapore. -
Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:
I need more support in teaching the ignorant barbarian ATurdy that neither PAP nor CSJ is fit to rule Singapore.
Has the "zwei-siao-HOG" now turn to comedy as a past-time or as a career ?Is the "zwei-siao-HOG" fit to teach anyone anything when it cannot even teach itself to accept simple fact proven by anthropologists - and accepted by political leaders - that Malays are migrants from Yunnan Province in China; while it insist that "the Malays are the original settlers in Singapore, and all other ethnic groups are immigrants here" ?
It surely must be "zwei-siao" to promote the idea that CSJ can be in any position to be in political power, when he is made a bankrupt 1000 times more than his ability to earn to settle the bankruptcies.
It is plain "zwei-siao" to equate CSJ with the PAP - as it shows the typical ignorance of a "zwei-siao-HOG" preferring to let its stupidity lead its already weak intellect.
It is not a surprise that the once confident "zwei-siao-HOG" - feeling as superior as a pseudo-Bavarian-HOG - should now deteriorate to such pathetic level of dejection in a very public forum, as it cannot get over its fixation with the fact that it can be out smarted by one that it can only deride as a simple turd.
The familiarity with turd is best left to a "zwei-siao-HOG" that will hog its last favorite word to its death as an unaccomplished Turd from a Turd World Country of Turdistan.
Incidentally, the admiration given by "light 123" was for the "zwei-siao" language from a "zwei-siao-HOG" made towards its other nightmare.
Obviously, the dejected "zwei-siao-HOG" needs a boost for its flagging spirit that now border on dejection.
Originally posted by light 123: