i am feeling low, and depressed. my unit sucks, and my platoon mates are making it worse for me. i need to seek help, i know that, but when i called saf hotline, the counseller could not be bothered to talk to me. his first line was, "make this fast, what is wrong". i need a listening ear. and i am very desperate. i donno what i want and i feel suicidal. feeling suicidal is normal as i think everyone is depressed at 1 point of time in life. there are certain stuff that i am thinking of and i know it is wrong. and i cant type it out or else if i get traced, even if nothing happens my future will be ruined...i need annomyous help. ... help me pls.
Talk to PC/OC or MO.........
Originally posted by desperatelyextreme:i am feeling low, and depressed. my unit sucks, and my platoon mates are making it worse for me. i need to seek help, i know that, but when i called saf hotline, the counseller could not be bothered to talk to me. his first line was, "make this fast, what is wrong". i need a listening ear. and i am very desperate. i donno what i want and i feel suicidal. feeling suicidal is normal as i think everyone is depressed at 1 point of time in life. there are certain stuff that i am thinking of and i know it is wrong. and i cant type it out or else if i get traced, even if nothing happens my future will be ruined...i need annomyous help. ... help me pls.
MO at medical centre.
get referral letter to see phychiatrist.
my pc younger than me, my oc doesnt do anything. my camp mo is horrible.
if i go see phychiatrist, i will get condemned in my unit. and my record will be blackmarked and my future would be ruined. if only there were not so many repercusion, i would wanna go see a phychiatrist too...cause i know i really need help.
Originally posted by desperatelyextreme:my pc younger than me, my oc doesnt do anything. my camp mo is horrible.
if i go see phychiatrist, i will get condemned in my unit. and my record will be blackmarked and my future would be ruined. if only there were not so many repercusion, i would wanna go see a phychiatrist too...cause i know i really need help.
pls...before you go kill yourself, think of your parents, your friends, those you love.
who give hoots about the repercussions, come on are you a man? go seek help asap.
did you tell anyone that you feel suicidal? their balls will shrink. tell them your problems.
Hmm, how about ur CO ??? Anyway, at this stage, there are 3 main problems that u will encounter... that is girl, money and personal. Personal can sub branch into family, studies(or future, after NS) or camp.
By ur replies, i guess it is the camp life? Why do u worry about getting marked or ruined future? Will it be worse if u slide down this train of negative thoughts and do something stupid. Will that be worse? Anyway, if it is abt camp life, maybe we can help?
Btw, which camp are u at ?
Originally posted by desperatelyextreme:my pc younger than me, my oc doesnt do anything. my camp mo is horrible.
if i go see phychiatrist, i will get condemned in my unit. and my record will be blackmarked and my future would be ruined. if only there were not so many repercusion, i would wanna go see a phychiatrist too...cause i know i really need help.
just tell MO of ur suicidal thought, confirm give attention to u.
what blacklist r u talking, at most ur medical files will be "P" case tagged under and within SAF. it will not be linked or leaked into the whole public/private sector.
Originally posted by desperatelyextreme:my pc younger than me, my oc doesnt do anything. my camp mo is horrible.
if i go see phychiatrist, i will get condemned in my unit. and my record will be blackmarked and my future would be ruined. if only there were not so many repercusion, i would wanna go see a phychiatrist too...cause i know i really need help.
U need a MO reference letter to see a phychiatrist.....u NSF? so why u worry u kenna condemned, it 's 1 yr plus only. When u need to to see a doctor u see a doctor.
you guys sure my case will only be within SAF? but singapore so small...everyone knows everyone somehow.
it is a personal problem. i have a weak mind. think too much, and getting worried alot.
Camp life, my camp has no life. i donno what i doing everyday, and i dont understand why so many before me can do it, so many after me can do it, just that particular me who cant do it.
maybe it is my character, my personality, me. i guess i am the root of all my problems, and to get rid of the problems, i need to get rid of the root... me.
i donno, just very lost and confused now.suicidal is bad, surviving an attempted suicide will make things a lot worse.
Originally posted by desperatelyextreme:you guys sure my case will only be within SAF? but singapore so small...everyone knows everyone somehow.
it is a personal problem. i have a weak mind. think too much, and getting worried alot.
Camp life, my camp has no life. i donno what i doing everyday, and i dont understand why so many before me can do it, so many after me can do it, just that particular me who cant do it.
maybe it is my character, my personality, me. i guess i am the root of all my problems, and to get rid of the problems, i need to get rid of the root... me.
i donno, just very lost and confused now.suicidal is bad, surviving an attempted suicide will make things a lot worse.
even u go outside work after ORD, medical condition is self-declare on any job application forms whether it is public civil service / private company.
i have a destructive nature, and i am very afraid that i will lose control of it and wreck chaos. but yet, if i let others know about this, there will be no future for me. i donno.
Originally posted by desperatelyextreme:you guys sure my case will only be within SAF? but singapore so small...everyone knows everyone somehow.
it is a personal problem. i have a weak mind. think too much, and getting worried alot.
Camp life, my camp has no life. i donno what i doing everyday, and i dont understand why so many before me can do it, so many after me can do it, just that particular me who cant do it.
maybe it is my character, my personality, me. i guess i am the root of all my problems, and to get rid of the problems, i need to get rid of the root... me.
i donno, just very lost and confused now.suicidal is bad, surviving an attempted suicide will make things a lot worse.
I think your problem is more like you need to speak to someone....
Originally posted by desperatelyextreme:i have a destructive nature, and i am very afraid that i will lose control of it and wreck chaos. but yet, if i let others know about this, there will be no future for me. i donno.
psychiatrist referral thru medical centre is ur only hope, when ur commanders r not listening.
if you have a "weak mind", as you put it, or you suffer from psychological problems, NS is the best time to sort it out ....
treat it as an opportunity for you to toughen your mind up ... cos you'll find the working society a lot less forgiving than NS .... your boss is not going to give a flying fark if you're depressed or moody or whatever ....
is there any other way to see a phychiatrist without going thru MO. like hospital or polyclinic etc. but still gotta inform my Sgt. haiz. ya you are right, i need someone to talk to. i think. but the thing is, i am not thinking straight. very messed up. will calling SAF hotline really be untraceable? i dont want later i call them, then tmr i wake up seeing MP at my doorstep.
thanks for the help so far.
Originally posted by desperatelyextreme:is there any other way to see a phychiatrist without going thru MO. like hospital or polyclinic etc. but still gotta inform my Sgt. haiz. ya you are right, i need someone to talk to. i think. but the thing is, i am not thinking straight. very messed up. will calling SAF hotline really be untraceable? i dont want later i call them, then tmr i wake up seeing MP at my doorstep.
thanks for the help so far.
saf hotline person might route back this problem to the unit 's s1 branch.
hospital / polyclinic maybe can. the doctor i think will write a referral letter to an saf psychiatrist for appointment.
Dun worry, SAF hotline and MP doesn't link ...
unless u tell them u killed someone or u still at AWOL status ... which i doubt u qualify for any of them ....
May I ask why you have to see the NS doctor?
You work normal hours, at least some of the days, right?
Perhaps you could see a normal doctor. Most work into the night, some until midnight.
Have a chat with them, and get a referral from them. Even if you dont get the referral, the doctor, if male, will understand since they will likely have done NS as well.
Problem with Accepting that Camp life is "Like that one lor"
It is not a church and this is Singapore , Mix of Kacang Puteh and Rojak.
Nobody can treat U like your family does. You have to learn to be independent and figure out the jungle yourself , soon you will find that NS is nothing compared to the private sector.
Working in the real Singapore flooded by sickening FTs that promises your bosses everything and delivers nothing then leave all the "Sai Kang to you" After it is done, they raise their heads higher than yours and demands more than you.
If we're not ready to face the world you can start now in NS working with true rojak people who have to earn our Citizenship.
Originally posted by gd4u:Dun worry, SAF hotline and MP doesn't link ...
unless u tell them u killed someone or u still at AWOL status ... which i doubt u qualify for any of them ....
go thru the chain of command 1st, then MO, b4 using saf hotline, many cases simply route back to unit s1 branch...
u can always tell us what's your problem. im sure all of us here have been thru tough times in ns but we still managed to ord without much problem. there's no problem that cannot be solved. if u r not willing to take the 1st step by telling ppl, how can concerned ppl help u, right?
In what way was your camp MO horrible?
What kind of help are you expecting?Is a listening ear all you really need?
thats the thing. i donno what i want my mind is messed up. i dont work normal hours. my unit is a stay in unit.
i didnt kill anyone, nor on awol status, but i scared this will happen, thats why i wanna seek help before i really lose control and do it. i wish to tell u guys the problem, but my mind is very messed up. i donno where to start but only say i am the problem. the problem is that i am the problem. and thus creating a lot of problems.
sigh...
Try talking to your MO. Your Medical Centre has rotating MOs on duties. If you don't like one, don't talk to that MO. Find one who you can trust and talk to him.
So long as you don't impress upon him that you are trying to 'siam' or 'kang' active duty, I think he willl listen to you.
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