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  • charlize's Avatar
    30,595 posts since Mar '05
    • So EC can sell for 10 or 20 million next time?

       

      can compete with sentosa cove properties. icon_lol.gif

  • Clivebenss's Avatar
    20,231 posts since Feb '10
    • Originally posted by charlize:

      So EC can sell for 10 or 20 million next time?

       

      can compete with sentosa cove properties. icon_lol.gif

      make S$ look like hell bank notes for gui gui..

      icon_lol.gif

  • charlize's Avatar
    30,595 posts since Mar '05
  • Devil7030's Avatar
    241 posts since Apr '10
    • $12,000 x 35 years x 12 months = $5,040,000 ie $5.04 millions

      So, the EC at $2.05 million is very affordable. icon_lol.gif

       

  • Clivebenss's Avatar
    20,231 posts since Feb '10
    • Originally posted by Devil7030:

      $12,000 x 35 years x 12 months = $5,040,000 ie $5.04 millions

      So, the EC at $2.05 million is very affordable. icon_lol.gif

       

      getting close to gui notes.

      icon_lol.gif

  • Bikeforceful's Avatar
    625 posts since Dec '11
    • The high prices which developers are selling their units are just a bloody joke on public housing. So now developers are getting subsidized land at taxpayers public expense , receiving special construction grants and building penthouses for executives who depend on their ’ parents’ to help pay for these units! And the smiling developer over the media ( tv) echoes the ” affordability theory” of the government!!! Amazing grace! What a bloody wayang they put up – boleh pengsan! At this point in time when the younger generation of working class needs a roof to get married , they let developers built ‘penthouses of over 4,000 square feet with subsidized land woh!!!!!!!!! Chekek darah!

      Edited by Bikeforceful 31 Dec `12, 8:13PM
    • With all these various schemes DBSS , BTO, EC and what other rubbishthe developers very cleverly circumvent the whole basic objective of government subsidized housing and the government seems impotent to deal with this new ways developers try to make their development premium sell by designing it “exclusive” to line their own pockets deeper! These developers with no clear cut guidelines on design and price simply dance the cha cha cha, rhumba, tango, Vienna waltz and jive with the HDB and the Building authorities thus so leaving the public in a state of perpetual ” limbo rock”!!! Now where is my Hang Tuah Khaw?

    • Originally posted by Bikeforceful:

      With all these various schemes DBSS , BTO, EC and what other rubbishthe developers very cleverly circumvent the whole basic objective of government subsidized housing and the government seems impotent to deal with this new ways developers try to make their development premium sell by designing it “exclusive” to line their own pockets deeper! These developers with no clear cut guidelines on design and price simply dance the cha cha cha, rhumba, tango, Vienna waltz and jive with the HDB and the Building authorities thus so leaving the public in a state of perpetual ” limbo rock”!!! Now where is my Hang Tuah Khaw? Walau- eh!S$ 2.05m for an EC

  • charlize's Avatar
    30,595 posts since Mar '05
    • Originally posted by Devil7030:

      $12,000 x 35 years x 12 months = $5,040,000 ie $5.04 millions

      So, the EC at $2.05 million is very affordable. icon_lol.gif

       

      Affordable. icon_lol.gif

  • Genie99b's Avatar
    976 posts since Jan '13
    • Originally posted by charlize:

      How to afford half a million dollar hdb flat ? icon_lol.gif

      Actually half a million dollar hdb flat is affordable, mainly because interest rates in singapore is low. Didn't check but 2%?

      Assuming 2.5% to service the loan it is $1042.00 interest payment per month.

      Therefore it is affordable.

      Question is how long will it take to own the flat. Also taking into account 99 year lease. The real question I would be asking is "is it worth it?"

      On the other side also have to take note of what you could do with it most common example "how much would I get per month if I rented it out?"

      So once all these are considered then its easier to come out and say "is it worth it?" "not worth it?" "too expensive?" "too cheap"

       

  • charlize's Avatar
    30,595 posts since Mar '05
    • If you earn million dollars a year, everything is affordable. icon_lol.gif

    • If resale prices kep going up, BTO prices will also go up right?

       

      I thought they adjust and peg BTO prices to surrounding prices of current flats? icon_lol.gif

  • ^Acid^ aka s|aO^eH~'s Avatar
    30,132 posts since Oct '02
    • Originally posted by charlize:

      If you earn million dollars a year, everything is affordable. icon_lol.gif


      nonsense...

      a million door per year doesn't allow me to afford half of europe icon_lol.gif

  • charlize's Avatar
    30,595 posts since Mar '05
  • Clivebenss's Avatar
    20,231 posts since Feb '10
    • Originally posted by charlize:

       

       

      Damn lot of weird people in sgforums. icon_lol.gif

      damn clones.

      icon_evil.gif

  • ^Acid^ aka s|aO^eH~'s Avatar
    30,132 posts since Oct '02
    • Originally posted by charlize:

      People talking about buying hdb flat , you talk about buying a continent.

       

      Really ah.

       

      You can be a politician. icon_lol.gif


      U said everything icon_lol.gif

      Besides, they wont spend million to buy land... they will most likely spend 10% to buy votes and then pocket the rest...

  • Clivebenss's Avatar
    20,231 posts since Feb '10
    • Originally posted by ^Acid^ aka s|aO^eH~:


      U said everything icon_lol.gif

      Besides, they wont spend million to buy land... they will most likely spend 10% to buy votes and then pocket the rest...

      damn politicians.

      icon_evil.gif

  • charlize's Avatar
    30,595 posts since Mar '05
  • M the name's Avatar
    1,765 posts since Mar '09
    •  

      Property sector's new buzzword: Penthouse

       

      Term mainly used as marketing tool and no fixed criteria apply: Analysts

       

       

      An exterior view of Ardmore Park, where an 8,740 sq ft penthouse is being marketed for $35 million. -- PHOTOS: KNIGHT FRANK, ST FILE


      By MELISSA TAN


      MOVE over, shoebox apartments. Penthouse units have claimed the spotlight ever since the launch of a 4,349 sq ft penthouse suite at an executive condominium (EC) in Tampines last month.

         The unit, including a 1,600 sq ft roof terrace, was sold for $2.05 million - the most expensive EC penthouse ever sold.

         But just what is a penthouse unit? The definition is fuzzy, apart from the apartment being rather swanky and on the top floor. No fixed criteria apply and the term is mainly used as a marketing tool.

         "In the past, penthouses were an exclusive lot found in city or central locations. But the line has been blurred such that any unit on the top floor is being marketed as a penthouse," said Mr Lee Sze Teck, senior manager at DWG.

         Penthouses generally have a large floor area compared with the other units in a project.

         For instance, the "penthouses" in 68-unit Kembangan Suites are as small as 635 sq ft, said Ms Chia Siew Chuin, director of research and advisory at Colliers International. Other units in that project, one- and two-bedders, are also smaller, at between 344 and 624 sq ft.

         Even selected HDB blocks in some estates including Bishan and Strathmore Avenue in Queenstown can be considered as having penthouse units, Ms Chia said, though the quantity of HDB penthouses is very limited.

         However, other analysts set the minimum size at between 2,000 and 2,300 sq ft.

         A penthouse usually includes a balcony or roof terrace, a private lift lobby and more than two bedrooms. It also has two or three storeys, analysts added.

         Jones Lang LaSalle national research director Ong Teck Hui noted that newer penthouses in city fringe or suburban locations are smaller than older penthouses in prime districts which tend to be more than 3,000 sq ft.

         At the top end of the market are "super penthouses" with huge floor areas commanding high absolute prices, Mr Ong said.

         For example, an 8,740 sq ft penthouse in Ardmore Park is being marketed for $35 million. A 13,000 sq ft penthouse in Chatsworth Court has an asking price of $50 million while another 11,200 sq ft penthouse at Boulevard Vue is listed at $68 million.

         Penthouses appeal to a select group of buyers for their spaciousness, exclusivity and accompanying bragging rights, analysts said.

         The typical penthouse buyer is often a wealthy executive, though lately, multi-generational families have pooled their cash to buy such units as well.

         Knight Frank senior manager Alice Tan estimated that Singapore has 6,000 to 9,000 penthouses, mostly in districts 1, 9, 10 and 11. "We are seeing a larger proportion of penthouse units in newer high-end developments, particularly in District 9 and District 1," she said.

         But the downside is that penthouse owners who do not intend to occupy the unit for the long term may find it harder to sell it later, for a few reasons.

         One is that penthouse buyers are a select group of people, so the resale value of a penthouse depends on limited demand.

         Another factor is that the proliferation of so-called "penthouses" in many developments is undermining the term's prestige, said DWG's Mr Lee.

         Third, R'ST Research director Ong Kah Seng noted that there are very few comparable sales and leases that can be used to benchmark prices because of the scarcity and exclusivity of penthouses.

         "Prices are expected to be among the first to fall in lacklustre economic conditions, as buyers opt for functionality and embrace frugality," he said.

       

      Money, The Straits Times, Saturday January 12 2013, Pg C1

      Edited by M the name 20 Jan `13, 2:19PM
  • charlize's Avatar
    30,595 posts since Mar '05
  • jojobeach's Avatar
    8,258 posts since Apr '07
    • Originally posted by charlize:

      Why hdb prices still so expensive ?

       

       

      Why ? icon_lol.gif

      They are not expensive... it's YOu not earning a million lollar paycheck.

      Once you get there... you'll find that it's actually quite CHEAP.

  • charlize's Avatar
    30,595 posts since Mar '05
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