Looks like its getting really serious....
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... and since when is "trying to market his book" an evil thing to do?Originally posted by sunny3510:nah.... he came wif a motive; he's trying to market his book
.... people need to know how they can lose as well as how they can win in order to be a winner eventually...
... short term, people can get lucky but to depend on luck is just foolish... because if you depend on luck, you will lose, eventually, and if you do not stop, lose everything....
... and so, it is critical that people learn... and "trying to market his book" is trying to promote knowledge... and yes I am proud of that... at least I tried.
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and i wun read ur bk.. coz u r teaching pple all the wrong stuffs...
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WowOriginally posted by AndrewPKYap:What long term view of the market? You don't get it, do you?
When it comes to investing in liquid assets like stocks, you should be following the market closely and flow with it. You can never fight the market.
If your long term view is down and the market is trending up, then you better abandon your views ASAP... making it ridiculous to have a "long term view".
If your view is up and there is an ongoing credit crunch in the USA, you better rethink and make the necessary adjustments to your portfolio...
... and there are many other considerations to take into account...
this whole post is a 180 degree reversal over his earlier INSISTENCE that markets are to be viewed only in the long term, and investors should only execute 3 trades every decade -
huh you know what is in my book?Originally posted by sunny3510:and i wun read ur bk.. coz u r teaching pple all the wrong stuffs...
u are clearly timing the market...
... according to My Chin Eng, the book doesn't even exists and you know what is in the book?
... so late at night don't make me laugh so hard leh...
and I said this three times:Originally posted by AndrewPKYap: 13 December 2007 · 04:04 AM... and there are many other considerations to take into account...Originally posted by AndrewPKYap: 13 December 2007 · 04:13 AM.... and adjust our portfolio again.... taking everything else into consideration...
... "many things to consider" is "timing the market" ?Originally posted by AndrewPKYap: 13 December 2007 · 04:15 AM... it is not so simple... there are many things to consider and you must know what to do after you consider those "many things"
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... just to give you a hint... in my book, I talk about the "many things" that people have to consider... among other things, like, why people win as well as why people lose...
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u r an gambler urself... and u always change where u stand...
to b honest... I'm neutral at 1st... now... watever u said... it'll nt go into me...
coz lack of substance and reliability... -
... and what makes you think I am "interested" in "you" or what you think?
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... and you really think that people are reading what you say and going "wow sunny3510 is so smart... I will take his advice"?
Don't make me laugh so hard so late at night leh... -
i'm disgusted by how u "defend" urself... dun add on to it
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i dun issue advice... and i dun need pple to agree wif me...Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:... and you really think that people are reading what you say and going "wow sunny3510 is so smart... I will take his advice"?
Don't make me laugh so hard so late at night leh...
most imptly, i dun force my view on other pple -
It can't be helped, you are just too funny...Originally posted by sunny3510:i'm disgusted by how u "defend" urself... dun add on to it
1st youthink that your opinions are sooooo important and people are taking your advice and now you think that it is possible to "force" your views on other people...Originally posted by sunny3510:i dun issue advice... and i dun need pple to agree wif me...
most imptly, i dun force my view on other pple
... how do you expect to do that, to "force" your views on others? You take a syringe and inject your views into their brains?
You are funny...
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i say again if u can't understand... i dun give advice... furthermore... i'm nt qualified to do so...Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:1st youthink that your opinions are sooooo important and people are taking your advice and now you think that it is possible to "force" your views on other people...
... how do you expect to do that, to "force" your views on others? You take a syringe and inject your views into their brains?
You are funny...
Don't make me laugh so hard, so late at night.
so this is wad i'm disgusted... repeated so many times by others already... tis is wad u r and shoot back wad others shoot u... and when everything else fails when u lose ur argument, u start calling names...
i'm gg to bed... in case i din reply later... I'm not agreeing wif wad u gonna say and nt tat i'm hv nothing to reply -
Economic cycles take time to play out... it takes time... and to try to catch the small cycles is ridiculous, you will only waste your time and money...Originally posted by Daddy!!:in my opinion: to be fair to Andrew Yap, certain points about the market which he raised made sense. Given a benefit of doubt, his warnings to other readers come from his heart if it is not interpreted as arrogance even if he might or might not have got the long term view of the market right.
... there are no "long term views" and only long cycles and short cycles... your "views" are not important...
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... and if you trade according to these cycles, you will trade maybe three times a decade...
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... don't have a view... call it when you see it...
It is like pornography.... you cannot explain it but you know it when you see it... -
... unless you are a kid.... then you won't see it even if it is staring you in the face...
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... and always remember... you have to take many things into consideration...
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... which all goes back to "odds are everything".....Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:... and since when is "trying to market his book" an evil thing to do?
.... people need to know how they can lose as well as how they can win in order to be a winner eventually...
... short term, people can get lucky but to depend on luck is just foolish... because if you depend on luck, you will lose, eventually, and if you do not stop, lose everything.... -
is that exactly what you were doing? trying to predict the mothers of all black monthers, many many many many many fridays ago?Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:Economic cycles take time to play out... it takes time... and to try to catch the small cycles is ridiculous, you will only waste your time and money...
... there are no "long term views" and only long cycles and short cycles... your "views" are not important...
You call it when you see it.
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...that's what you think, in your own mind... just like, you like to sniff panties, you think others like to sniff panties, but it is just something that is in your own mind and not the reality...Originally posted by Gazelle:is that exactly what you were doing? trying to predict the mothers of all black monthers, many many many many many fridays ago?
... that Friday... many many Fridays ago, the Asian markets were plunging left right and center and if, yes if, Europe and New York followed we could have a really serious crash... but... by evening, it was clear that Europe and New York was down but not very seriously... meaning, and I like I said so by evening... the outlook had changed....
... so you see, Mr panties-sniffing Gazelle, whatever it is that you think is in your head only and not reality... what is in your head is not necessarily in other people's head.... -
so what's your point now? market going to crash or not?Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:...that's what you think, in your own mind... just like, you like to sniff panties, you think others like to sniff panties, but it is just something that is in your own mind and not the reality...
... that Friday... many many Fridays ago, the Asian markets were plunging left right and center and if, yes if, Europe and New York followed we could have a really serious crash... but... by evening, it was clear that Europe and New York was down but not very seriously... meaning, and I like I said so by evening... the outlook had changed....
... so you see, Mr panties-sniffing Gazelle, whatever it is that you think is in your head only and not reality... what is in your head is not necessarily in other people's head....
That was the start of the entire thread "Looks like it is getting really serious"
If you are just reporting what we can read on our own at CNN, Bloomsberg, etc, then we should just lock this thread coz you are wasting our time. -
As I said, you can predict doomsday for 5 years, getting yourself wrong many many many many... fridays, until you finally reach the cycle where its downtrend, and then you say you are a prophet.Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:... if I was wrong to say "Looks like its getting really serious.... ", this thread would have died a natural death a very long time ago...
... and just because it the situation is serious now, does it mean that it will remain serious forever?
... of course not and that is why we continue to discuss this and to look at it... so we know when it becomes "less serious" and then, "not serious"...
... and adjust our portfolio again.... taking everything else into consideration...
That's what many of the 'naysayers' do. Predict "Negative news" wrongly for many years, and when it finally turns negative, come out and claim credit for it. -
I can use this statement inOriginally posted by AndrewPKYap:... it is not so simple... there are many things to consider and you must know what to do after you consider those "many things"
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I am not against people learning. Learning is always good. But learning from someone who doesn't know the fundamentals... hmm...Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:... and since when is "trying to market his book" an evil thing to do?
.... people need to know how they can lose as well as how they can win in order to be a winner eventually...
... short term, people can get lucky but to depend on luck is just foolish... because if you depend on luck, you will lose, eventually, and if you do not stop, lose everything....
... and so, it is critical that people learn... and "trying to market his book" is trying to promote knowledge... and yes I am proud of that... at least I tried.
Lousy teacher comes out lousy students.
And for those who do not know, it is possible to use your market fundamentals to make money short term in the market. Short term doesn't mean gambling, but to be alert to the market movements and reaping benefits out of it. -
... you really think that "odds ARE everything" likeOriginally posted by Chin Eng:... which all goes back to "odds are everything".....Jesus is all the world to me,
and your career, friends, wife and children are meaningless to you since Jesus is all the world to you, your life, your joy, your all?
My life, my joy, my all;
http://library.timelesstruths.org/music/Jesus_Is_All_the_World_to_Me/
hahahaha what an idiot, unable to think and believe that "odds ARE everything" and there is nothing else to consider...
hahaha... that's it, issn't it, you cannot handle anything more complex than "odds ARE everything" because you brain can only handle one idea and you have no way of understanding how to complement opposing and other complementary ideas in your head....
wow... you better cling on to your beliefs for once you lose that you have nothing.... since you can only handle one thought in you mind...