Looks like its getting really serious....
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Way back in July last year, I warned of this situation and suggested that people get out of the stock market and to reduce their debts and if possible, to eliminate them. That is a really difficult thing to do because in Singapore the despots try to take as much of the people's money as possible through open and hidden means and to put Singaporeans into as much debt as possible.
I would say that my advice going forward would be the same, to reduce or eliminate your debts as much as possible.... and don't try to get into the stock markets yet after you have taken my advice to dump your stocks last year. -
fallacy fallacy fallacyOriginally posted by AndrewPKYap:No wonder you are so stupid. Smart people ask for advice (especially from people that saw the present situation when everyone was going rah rah rah and some still going rah rah rah like you
) and whether they take the advice or not, they ask. Stupid people like you do not ask for advice and just issue cowardly insane threats when you are proven wrong. But thanks for acting as my coolie and bumpingz up my threads...
smart ppl ask questions yes.
But not to ppl who have proven time and again to not know anything about the subject matter.
It literally scares me everytime someone asks you questions because they may actually take your advice. You would ruin trangers just to insist you are a genius.
As for your silly statement about the probability of a doctorate holder being delusional being lower than that of an uneducated man....I can only shake my head at your ridiculous assumptions.
You obviously don't understand how probabilities work. How are you fit to advice anyone on anything again?
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I don't see why you are irritated by my post. None are related to this topic or thread at all, I'm merely interested in seeing this longest (so far I see, it is longest) running thread in Speaker's Corner stretch furtherOriginally posted by soul_rage:I am irritated by your posting eagle
so what if he has made Gazelle insane?
we are talking about this posting, and by far he has been giving people 'advice' when he has no fundamentals himself.
Be objective. Andrew is a liability to the opposition party supporters. He is as much a liability as CSJ is to the opposition party.
Each time, all PAP needs to do to convince neutral parties to vote for them, is to bring CSJ up as an example, and ask the neutral parties whether they want a lunatic in parliament.
Similarly, this lunatic calls the govt despots, faults them 110%, and makes baseless claims. He is a disgrace to the people who supports opposition.
So, sorry if any post irritated you
But to be fair, he wants to give advice is his business. We don't need to take it right? I mean, even the government can give us 'advice' that we should get annuity... But most of us here don't buy it right?
And lastly, for my posts in this forum, I have tried to make every single one as objective as possible.
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I believe that you trust what you are saying and is not trying to cheat the readers here... (that is why it proves you are a delusional)Originally posted by deathbait:fallacy fallacy fallacy
smart ppl ask questions yes.
But not to ppl who have proven time and again to not know anything about the subject matter.
It literally scares me everytime someone asks you questions because they may actually take your advice. You would ruin trangers just to insist you are a genius.
As for your silly statement about the probability of a doctorate holder being delusional being lower than that of an uneducated man....I can only shake my head at your ridiculous assumptions.
You obviously don't understand how probabilities work. How are you fit to advice anyone on anything again?
Especially gambling.
1. ....and if those strangers took my advice given out since July last year, there would do very well (only a delusional like you would be unable to see that and think that my advice would 'ruin' them).
2. I was 'proven time and again to not know anything about the subject matter' by whom? To whom? You? hahahahaha When a delusional 'proves' that you do not know anything about a subject, it just goes to show you are correct, when a delusional agrees with you, that is when your alarm bells must sound. Heck, you must be equally delusional if a delusional agrees with you! So thank you for coming into this thread and showing everyone how a delusional will never agree with me.
3. Dr Chee Soon Juan has a doctorate in neuropsychology. He was a professor in NUS. Only a delusional like you will think he is stupid. Like I said, if he thinks that there was a better way, he would have taken that route. The despots are just too powerful and in order to effect change, he had to sacrifice himself.Neuropsychology - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
4. When a delusional (issuing cowardly issuing insane threats) says that I do not understand how probabilities work I rejoice. It shows that I am not delusional about how probabilities work.
Neuropsychology is an interdisciplinary branch of psychology and neuroscience that aims to understand how the structure and function of the brain relate to ...
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So all in all, thank you, and commiserations to those that took your advice and not mine. -
Dateline Singapore, Saturday Jan 12 2008 12:30 pm
So instead of getting better or just staying the same, it looks like it is getting worse.
Straits times Index closed at 3,287.34 Down -23.73
You might think that Down -23.73 is not much but in fact it is very significant because it confirms a downward trend. Now traders need a confirmation of an upward trend to buy and trend reversals are hard to come by.
The Dow at the close was 12,606.30 Down 246.79 (1.92%)
Follow this thread and I will give you an indication of when you should start buying (I will only be talking in terms of investing. As the founder of http://www.casinogamblingprevention.com , I founded the portal because speculating looses you money, and you should only be investing and investing skillfully.)
Stay out of this market. The worry is that the way the government pushed and allowed the property prices to rise at everyoneÂ’s expense would now come back to haunt us (see Property prices rise at our expense in this site (dated 02:27:06 on 05/09/06) - http://newsintercom.org/ind... ) The lack of democratic checks and balances allowed them to do destabilizing things like this for the benefit of a small group of people at the expense of the majority.
Posted on 01/11/08 at 23:32:10 (taken from here: http://newsintercom.org/index.php?itemid=568#15417 )
To all those listening to delusional people and propaganda, commiserations... -
1) actually, it would have been disastrous. You proclaimed a crash at least 3 times since, and none of them happened. Imagine the ppl who trusted you enough to short the market.(i notice you never shorted, no matter how 100% sure of a crash you were. That either proves you are an idiot, or that you don't believe yourself)Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:I believe that you trust what you are saying and is not trying to cheat the readers here... (that is why it proves you are a delusional)
1. ....and if those strangers took my advice given out since July last year, there would do very well (only a delusional like you would be unable to see that and think that my advice would 'ruin' them).
2. I was 'proven time and again to not know anything about the subject matter' by whom? To whom? You? hahahahaha When a delusional 'proves' that you do not know anything about a subject, it just goes to show you are correct, when a delusional agrees with you, that is when your alarm bells must sound. Heck, you must be equally delusional if a delusional agrees with you! So thank you for coming into this thread and showing everyone how a delusional will never agree with me.
3. Dr Chee Soon Juan has a doctorate in neuropsychology. He was a professor in NUS. Only a delusional like you will think he is stupid. Like I said, if he thinks that there was a better way, he would have taken that route. The despots are just too powerful and in order to effect change, he had to sacrifice himself.
4. When a delusional (issuing cowardly issuing insane threats) says that I do not understand how probabilities work I rejoice. It shows that I am not delusional about how probabilities work.
So all in all, thank you, and commiserations to those that took your advice and not mine.
2) well...yeah...pretty much by me. You are full of contradictions when I ask you basic questions on investing then, and you're still full of contradictions now when you give advice. You dodge easy questions with insults, and you don't seem to even have a fundamental grasp of basic math.
3) I did not say he was stupid. This is a perfect example of how you always misquote your opponents to make yourself sound correct. I simply commented that YOU were stupid, because you couldn't differentiate between intelligence and sanity. Just because a man has worked his way to a doctorate in no way diminishes his probability of being delusional or just plain wrong. Which brings us to the next point
4) yeah, you don't understand probability. You don't even know what odds are. Worse still, your fourth point proves you don't even seem to have the ability to string coherent thoughts together. -
I proclaimed a crash three times? Delusional. I said that looking at the trading scenario at the time there might be a crash. The fed then came out to calm the markets and prevented it, for example. Another proof that you are a delusional.Originally posted by deathbait:1) actually, it would have been disastrous. You proclaimed a crash at least 3 times since, and none of them happened. Imagine the ppl who trusted you enough to short the market.(i notice you never shorted, no matter how 100% sure of a crash you were. That either proves you are an idiot, or that you don't believe yourself)
Delusional. You think I am obliged to answer your stupid questions. Who do you think you are? You are a delusional with delusions of grandeur.Originally posted by deathbait:2) well...yeah...pretty much by me. You are full of contradictions when I ask you basic questions on investing then, and you're still full of contradictions now when you give advice. You dodge easy questions with insults, and you don't seem to even have a fundamental grasp of basic math.
Oh so now your changed your mind and say that Dr Chee is brilliant? Flip-flop insane.Originally posted by deathbait:3) I did not say he was stupid. This is a perfect example of how you always misquote your opponents to make yourself sound correct. I simply commented that YOU were stupid, because you couldn't differentiate between intelligence and sanity. Just because a man has worked his way to a doctorate in no way diminishes his probability of being delusional or just plain wrong. Which brings us to the next point
Delusional, how do you know I don't understand probabilityOriginally posted by deathbait:4) yeah, you don't understand probability. You don't even know what odds are. Worse still, your fourth point proves you don't even seem to have the ability to string coherent thoughts together.
You make 4 points and three of them prove your delusional state. One prove that you flip-flop mindlessly.
What happened to your cowardly insane threats against me?
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It is his business to give whatever advice to the stock market? U must understand, not everyone is as smart as u are to realize Andrew's bullshits here.Originally posted by eagle:I don't see why you are irritated by my post. None are related to this topic or thread at all, I'm merely interested in seeing this longest (so far I see, it is longest) running thread in Speaker's Corner stretch further
So, sorry if any post irritated you
But to be fair, he wants to give advice is his business. We don't need to take it right? I mean, even the government can give us 'advice' that we should get annuity... But most of us here don't buy it right?
And lastly, for my posts in this forum, I have tried to make every single one as objective as possible.
Once again, I apologize if anything post irritated you
Deathbait and all are trying to stop this moron for misleading potential victims.
Yes, ur posts are pretty objective, stay that way and dont be like Andrew or u will mar NUS good name.
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Originally posted by lagrangian1125:
Look who is the crazy one here...posting this kind of shit at such hour.
http://www.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&thread_id=294396
Asking how to get banned when it is so easy just to change a nick. Can we trust his judgment in stock market and his ability to analyze articles??
http://www.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&thread_id=282438
His warp logic... Investing in thailand BECAUSE THEY CAN BE REACHED BY BUS.
Then, by his logic, all sporean should invest in Malaysia since we can reach there by bicycles or even by foot!!!!
Can u see how silly he is?!!![/b] -
Its everyone's job to expose a fake. And he IS a fake.Originally posted by eagle:I don't see why you are irritated by my post. None are related to this topic or thread at all, I'm merely interested in seeing this longest (so far I see, it is longest) running thread in Speaker's Corner stretch further
So, sorry if any post irritated you
But to be fair, he wants to give advice is his business. We don't need to take it right? I mean, even the government can give us 'advice' that we should get annuity... But most of us here don't buy it right?
And lastly, for my posts in this forum, I have tried to make every single one as objective as possible.
Once again, I apologize if anything post irritated you
Its like a guy who proclaims he is a know-it-all, and cheats everyone. At least he did not reach there (yet). Imagine what happens if he publishes a book and misleads a lot of people.
I am irritated not because of you. I am irritated that your posts seems to impress upon me that you are supporting a lunatic like him just because he made another lunatic (Gazelle) gone even mad. That is not a reason to support a fake and giving him the credit he doesn't deserve.
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I don't like to waste time arguing with you coz you have a habit of twisting other people's words.Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:You have blind hatred? Well then, I suggest you give that up.
Dr Chee Soon Juan with a doctorate is a lunatic? An NUS professor with a doctorate in Neuropsychology is more likely yo be a lunatic or is it more likely that you are delusional? It is more likely that you are delusional.
No one takes me seriously and you know that because you have a delusion that you are God and knows what everyone thinks? Delusional.
The people that fear a free press and free elections do not qualify as despots? Delusional.
I disappeared from the Pedra Branca thread not because I proved my point and withdrew and I lost my case? Delusional.
You know why you make all these delusional statements? As you openly admitted, you do not rely on facts and evidence, and that is why you are a delusional.
But seriously, you are like the 'despots' you hate, coz the 'despots' adopt an elitist attitude and put a lot of weight on paper qualifications. Just because he has a PHD means he cannot be a lunatic? I think you are truly blind and delusional.
Who fears a free press? Who fears a free election? Make your point clear. Oppressing the press does not equate to fear. Delusional and FAKE
And your point on Pedra Branca does not make sense. Are you sure you wrote a book? Because your english doesn't make sense.
You know why you are still thinking everyone else EXCEPT YOU are delusional? Because you are blinded by hatred. You see nothing but hatred for the PAP, and everything that happens is the PAP's fault.
Blame blame blame. Complain complain complain. Get a life and stop all the din.
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You mean the book HE claim to have written but is not to be found anywhere....Originally posted by soul_rage:Its everyone's job to expose a fake. And he IS a fake.
Its like a guy who proclaims he is a know-it-all, and cheats everyone. At least he did not reach there (yet). Imagine what happens if he publishes a book and misleads a lot of people.
I am irritated not because of you. I am irritated that your posts seems to impress upon me that you are supporting a lunatic like him just because he made another lunatic (Gazelle) gone even mad. That is not a reason to support a fake and giving him the credit he doesn't deserve.
You are objective. Stay that way and don't mix around with people with blind hatred
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Merrill Lynch to Take $15 Billion Writedown, NYT Says (Update2)
By Joseph Galante
Jan. 11 (Bloomberg) -- Merrill Lynch & Co., the third- largest U.S. securities firm, may write down $15 billion related to U.S. mortgage losses, almost twice its original forecast, the New York Times reported, citing people briefed on the plan.
Analysts had estimated that the New York-based firm would announce a markdown of about $12 billion when it reports fourth- quarter earnings next week, adding to an $8.4 billion charge in the previous quarter. Losses on bets related to U.S. mortgages prompted the ouster of Chief Executive Officer Stan O'Neal in October and his replacement by John Thain a month later.
Merrill is trying to raise $4 billion from investors in the U.S., Asia and the Middle East to shore up its finances, the newspaper said, citing the same people. U.S. and European banks and securities firms including Merrill have already turned to Asian and Middle Eastern governments for about $34 billion.
``It's going to be a tough year for investors,'' said Hugh Young, who oversees $50 billion at Aberdeen Asset Management Asia Ltd. in Singapore. ``Even if we don't see a technical recession in the U.S., it'll definitely feel like one.''
Merrill and Citigroup Inc. lost almost half their market value in the past year after financial-market ``turmoil'' that U.S. Federal Reserve Chairman Ben S. Bernanke said yesterday has hurt the economy. Merrill fell 3.2 percent to $50.34 in German trading as of 10:55 a.m. New York-based spokeswoman Jessica Oppenheim declined to comment when contacted by Bloomberg News.
Citigroup, Bank of America
Citigroup, the biggest U.S. bank, may post about $14 billion of writedowns when it reports fourth-quarter earnings next week, JPMorgan Chase & Co. analysts estimated today. Bank of America Corp. may announce writedowns linked to collateralized debt obligations of about $5 billion, they said.
The world's biggest financial institutions have announced about $100 billion in writedowns and loan losses sparked by the U.S. subprime mortgage slump. Zurich-based UBS AG, Europe's biggest bank by assets, said today this will probably be another difficult year for the industry, urging shareholders to back its plan to raise $11.8 billion from Singapore and the Middle East.
Merrill said last month it's raising as much as $6.2 billion from Singapore's Temasek Holdings Pte. and New York- based money manager Davis Selected Advisors LP.
``We are comfortable with our current investment in Merrill,'' said Manish Kejriwal, senior managing director of investments at Temasek.
Sovereign Fund `Concerns'
Soaring investments by sovereign wealth funds such as China Investment Corp. in finance companies may trigger a political backlash in the U.S. and Europe. China Investment, the nation's $200 billion wealth fund, is paying $5 billion for as much as 10 percent of Morgan Stanley.
``Sovereign wealth funds, by definition, are potentially susceptible to non-economic interests,'' New York Senator Charles Schumer said in a statement yesterday. ``The closer they come to exercising control and influence, the greater concerns we have.''
Bernanke said more interest-rate cuts ``may well be necessary,'' addressing concerns that the housing crisis will spread to the wider U.S. economy and trigger a recession. Bernanke said the Fed isn't forecasting a recession.
Goldman Sachs Group Inc. economists predicted this week that the Fed will lower the rate to 2.5 percent by year-end. The bank also joined Merrill and Morgan Stanley in projecting a recession.
Merrill is a passive, minority owner of Bloomberg LP, the parent of Bloomberg News.
To contact the reporter on this story: Joseph Galante in San Francisco at [email protected] .
Last Updated: January 11, 2008 04:58 EST -
That statement is from someone that openly admitted himself an idiot that does not go with facts and evidence... and reject the scientific method for paranormal delusions...Originally posted by soul_rage:Its everyone's job to expose a fake. And he IS a fake.
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ahhh... when such a one calls you a fake, it is very comforting, when idiots support you, that is when you start to worry. -
Yes it is getting even worse than when I warned everyone.Originally posted by googoomuck:Merrill Lynch to Take $15 Billion Writedown, NYT Says (Update2)
By Joseph Galante
Jan. 11 (Bloomberg) -- Merrill Lynch & Co., the third- largest U.S. securities firm, may write down $15 billion related to U.S. mortgage losses, almost twice its original forecast, the New York Times reported, citing people briefed on the plan.
At that time it was easier to get out. Now it is harder because the prices gave gone down and for property speculators (that idiotic soul_rage) they cannot get rid of their property gambles and is now sh!tting in their pants... and that is why he (that idiotic soul_rage) is so against me... every time I make a post, he sh!ts in his pants. -
What an idiot. You have no idea what it takes for the Thai Baht to rise and you think it rises because it can be reached by bus?Originally posted by lagrangian1125:His warp logic... Investing in thailand BECAUSE THEY CAN BE REACHED BY BUS.
Then, by his logic, all sporean should invest in Malaysia since we can reach there by bicycles or even by foot!!!!
Can u see how silly he is?!!!
But then, one can expect an idiot to come up with this kind of nonsense
... and was I right when I said to invest in Thai Baht?
Brilliant analysis.[/img] -
Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:
don't know what crap are you talking about *shrugs*
Yes it is getting even worse than when I warned everyone.
At that time it was easier to get out. Now it is harder because the prices gave gone down and for property speculators [b](that idiotic soul_rage) they cannot get rid of their property gambles and is now sh!tting in their pants... and that is why he (that idiotic soul_rage) is so against me... every time I make a post, he sh!ts in his pants. [/b]
you are less and less credible.
Have you seen the latest property prices in Singapore? Prices gone down? hahaha. You don't even read the newspaper
Writer? Get a life lah, loser.
As a self-proclaimed 'expert' in multiple things wanting to 'advise' people, I think you are a REAL failure.
Instead of convincing others of your view, all you are doing is making people piss/laugh/offended by your remarks and your poor attitude
Are you sure you are a writer? You can't even convince A SINGLE person here, how to be a writer?
Loser -
On and on you go about your past failures. You lost and started making silly comments in the thread. I was just too lazy to argue with youOriginally posted by AndrewPKYap:That statement is from someone that openly admitted himself an idiot that does not go with facts and evidence... and reject the scientific method for paranormal delusions...
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ahhh... when such a one calls you a fake, it is very comforting, when idiots support you, that is when you start to worry.
Besides not having credibility, I also feel you are morally corrupted. You don't seem to feel any shame for being so abusive and hollow, that you are disgracing your own parents.
Spare a thought for your parents. They wouldn't want to know they have a son that has low IQ AND EQ -
I don't think he is the idiot. You ARE the idiot. YOU think it rises because it can be reached by bus.Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:What an idiot. You have no idea what it takes for the Thai Baht to rise and you think it rises because it can be reached by bus?
But then, one can expect an idiot to come up with this kind of nonsense
... and was I right when I said to invest in Thai Baht?
Brilliant analysis.[/img]
One can expect an dumba** to come up with this nonsense.
My god, I think we should vote you in as our National Treasure. You deserve the title for being so idiotic that you provide comic relief for all of us here -
don't know what crap are you talking about *shrugs*
Wow, its really refreshing
you are less and less credible.
Have you seen the latest property prices in Singapore? Prices gone down? hahaha. You don't even read the newspaper
Writer? Get a life lah, loser.
As a self-proclaimed 'expert' in multiple things wanting to 'advise' people, I think you are a REAL failure.
Instead of convincing others of your view, or you are doing is making people piss/laugh/offended by your remarks and your poor attitude
Are you sure you are a writer? You can't even convince A SINGLE person here, how to be a writer?
Loser to see someone go against anti-pap people for a change -
on the contrary, I am an anti-PAP citizen as well.Originally posted by Timmay:
Wow, its really refreshing to see someone go against anti-pap people for a change
In fact, some of the points Andrew made, aren't unreasonable.
Temasek buying into the banks and then losing money in the investments, and going back to the people to get more money. To me, there is some truth in that.
It is just that people who are driven by BLIND HATRED for the PAP, are liability to the opposition, because their behavior causes neutral parties to choose the PAP due to the lesser of 2 evils.
CSJ is a liability to the opposition because he doesn't fight his cause in a more acceptable way to this society. Instead he insists on going down his own path, thereby leading to his own destruction.
He is not noble. He is just being plain dumb, coz he convinced no one but only causes more people to vote for PAP -
... and you are just delusional if you think people will listen to someone that openly admitted that he does not rely on facts and evidence ....Originally posted by soul_rage:on the contrary, I am an anti-PAP citizen as well.
In fact, some of the points Andrew made, aren't unreasonable.
Temasek buying into the banks and then losing money in the investments, and going back to the people to get more money. To me, there is some truth in that.
It is just that people who are driven by BLIND HATRED for the PAP, are liability to the opposition, because their behavior causes neutral parties to choose the PAP due to the lesser of 2 evils.
CSJ is a liability to the opposition because he doesn't fight his cause in a more acceptable way to this society. Instead he insists on going down his own path, thereby leading to his own destruction.
He is not noble. He is just being plain dumb, coz he convinced no one but only causes more people to vote for PAP
... let me provide the facts and evidence where you openly admitted you do not rely on facts and evidence.... link...
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You have written a lot recently and if anyone listens to you... well people that actually listens to someone that does not depend on facts and evidence to form his conclusion, all I can say is -
... but anyway, I don't know what happened to my other coolies that used to bumpz up my threads... you volunteer to be my coolie to bumpz up my threads, you are welcomed... I can always do with another coolie.
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... and who's clone are you? Care to volunteer as my coolie and bumpz up my threads too?Originally posted by Timmay:
Wow, its really refreshing to see someone go against anti-pap people for a change -
... and who's clone are you? Care to volunteer as my coolie and bumpz up my threads too?
