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Thru adaptation of this society.Originally posted by piggy_777:diff ppl has diff definition of love, i personlly feel that Love is to give, submit, care, appreciate, respect and it involve responsibility......................sad to say 'love' become very cheap in this society................today they love each other, next day they 'kiss and say goodbye' following day they find new love.. ........
some ppl want to love but don have the courage to bear responsiblities...........sad right...............................................
People cheapened Love.
Love remains as Love.
In fact, there are really too much elements to easily distort it's purity.
Well, those elements are also meant to do good.
All up to individual.
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I would prefer to describe it as a huge planet rather than a elephant.Originally posted by Tuatau:In other words, Love is like an elephant, and we humans are but blind men feeling different parts of the elephant? So the question that follows is: Is selfless love the ultimate big picture?
I personally subscribe to the school of thought that love can be classified into 3 categories: Eros, Philia and Agape (they could be different parts of the elephant).
Your definition of True Love or Perfect Love seems to match very closely with Agape (Paul also talked about Love in this sense in his letter to the Corinthians), but such True Love is a concept of a higher spiritual level that is difficult to understand and even more difficult to act in accordance with. That is because the selfless nature of Agape appears to violate our instinctive nature for self-preservation and actions in self-interest. And that is also why that particular definition of love can remain universal and ageless: people who cannot live it cannot twist it to their perceptions; people who can live it no longer consider the definition relevant -- they just live it.
Love, as described in most threads here however, is only limited to Eros and sometimes Philia. Those two concepts could be easier to grasp, but problem is the boundaries are often vague and subject to personal and emotional bias. Hence, we may know what Love (especially in terms of Eros) is, but to understand Love within this scope, to study its workings and effects on humans, to explain why humans in Love do the things they do would be an exercise in futility as such Love simply defies rational scrutiny.
The point is: For common peons like myself, Love (Agape) is almost unattainable (at this point in life) that understanding it becomes rather meaningless; whereas Love (Eros/Philia) is too irrational to be understood. Though I'd much rather choose to be in Love (Eros/Philia) and remain blissfully ignorant, than to be in Love (Agape) and become spiritually enlightened. For now, at least.
Thanks for the explanations, anyway. It was a stimulating discussion.
Note: Some people have told me that Agape could co-exist with Eros/Philia, but that is perhaps a discussion better left for another day.
Where your feet brings you to. You experience and understand, only on the area which you've thread upon... -
Great thinkers of the AA forum,
How many planets must one land on/ how many elephants must one touch to fully understand the meaning of love? Even if one understands it, can one live a wasted life in the name of love?
True love.. love someone, you should accept him/her wholesale, even if others feel that you are silly.
True love...love yourself, you should leave him for someone else/ live for yourself.
In my 2 cents worth, in this current world, true love does exist but more for self than for others. Else, divorce rates, breakups, wouldn't be so common these days. :I
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Passive thought?Originally posted by timble:Great thinkers of the AA forum,
How many planets must one land on/ how many elephants must one touch to fully understand the meaning of love? Even if one understands it, can one live a wasted life in the name of love?
True love.. love someone, you should accept him/her wholesale, even if others feel that you are silly.
True love...love yourself, you should leave him for someone else/ live for yourself.
In my 2 cents worth, in this current world, true love does exist but more for self than for others. Else, divorce rates, breakups, wouldn't be so common these days. :I
Pardon me if I'm out of point.. I'm also not sure what's the point of making my point.
The precise point is, one indeed; should live his/her lifetime in the name of love.
Glad you've made your point.
Cheers
p.s how are things?
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Originally posted by timble:
Once you understands it. your life will change forever. It will not be wasted. For sure.
[bHow many planets must one land on/ how many elephants must one touch to fully understand the meaning of love? Even if one understands it, can one live a wasted life in the name of love?..
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ReallyOriginally posted by M©+square:Passive thought?
The precise point is, one indeed; should live his/her lifetime in the name of love.
Glad you've made your point.
Cheers
p.s how are things? 
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Depends... What would actually convince you that you've 'understood' it anyway...?Originally posted by Magnus:Once you understands it. your life will change forever. It will not be wasted. For sure. -
I am supposed to be a donor for my wife. That's all i want to say.Originally posted by Devil1976:Depends... What would actually convince you that you've 'understood' it anyway...? -
Originally posted by Magnus:
One has loved and lost, yet one still does not understand. Perhaps being the novice that one is, one is not treading the right path.
Once you understands it. your life will change forever. It will not be wasted. For sure.
However, one's life has indeed changed forever. Though love may be lost, it is not forgotten. To the grave, the memories shall be held and bloom as flowers to welcome the next spring. -
Originally posted by timble:
Great thinker timble:
True love.. love someone, you should accept him/her wholesale, even if others feel that you are silly.
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In my 2 cents worth, in this current world, true love does exist but more for self than for others. Else, divorce rates, breakups, wouldn't be so common these days. :I
Pardon me if I'm out of point.. I'm also not sure what's the point of making my point.
Could True Love exist for the self when its nature is supposedly selfless?
If you are out of point, then I share your guilt. This thread, after all, is about Dreamland.
Regarding your statement about being silly, may I quote this line from a recent movie that echoes your sentiments:
"Honestly, if you're not willing to sound stupid you don't deserve to be in love."
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In my opinion, this is the ideal.Originally posted by Devil1976:Really -
The problem is... People are left with a CHOICE. Which... Somehow is a requirement for this world to work....?Originally posted by M©+square:In my opinion, this is the ideal. -
Hmm... The devoted one?Originally posted by Magnus:I am supposed to be a donor for my wife. That's all i want to say. -
Hmm....Originally posted by Tuatau:However, one's life has indeed changed forever. Though love may be lost, it is not forgotten. To the grave, the memories shall be held and bloom as flowers to welcome the next spring.