respect ? earned or demanded ?
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Well, I have already made money by investing in shares. I dont "play" with them.Originally posted by bismarck:smarty pants, FYI he plays stocks everyday and this is the end result. so wake up yr bloody idea of getting rich thru stocks.
Stop using your father as an example of what happens to people who invest in shares. Your father does not represent the majority. Why dont you use Warren Buffet as an example of what you can be by investing in shares?
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most of the ppl who invested lost. his father belongs to the majority. you are the one who dont understand the big picture. govt also reported that out of the people who invested with their CPF 80% lost. so who are the majority?Originally posted by shade343:Well, I have already made money by investing in shares. I dont "play" with them.
Stop using your father as an example of what happens to people who invest in shares. Your father does not represent the majority. Why dont you use Warren Buffet as an example of what you can be by investing in shares?
You should speak to some of the DBF students in SP.
stop the silly comparison to warren buffet. how many warren buffets are there in the world?
fund managers are the big players. they control most of the money moving in and out of stock markets. they are the one who won all the hard-earned money of retail investors. do you know how many people actually lost to make a warren buffet?
you are talking big just because you won a bit of money. i have seen, known and heard of people who won and thought it was easy. most people win for a start. it is only towards the later part that they start to lose. this is the typical result of 'gambling'. mind you, stock markets are just 'legalised casinos'.
very few people can beat the fund managers. they are the one who control the market. they are the eventual winners.
you trade shares using your father's money, you said so in another thread!! nothing against you but i do hope you can prove that when you start to trade with your own money temptation wont get the better of your judgement. coz it is temptation that beats most 'gamblers'. -
all he wanted was a listening ear. this forum seems suitable. but some comments here makes me think its more of a forum for justification of one's sensitive ego - which is totally uncalled for. coming here to tell a life story might not be everyone's cup of tea, but it is also a right given to this individual who want advice. afterall, this is "aunt agony" not "added agony".
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i think it is very OK to have strong responses given your circumstances. your situation is really knotted. i know of many families like yours. as long as the other parent is giving in, the children suffers tremendously. but i would like to caution of turning this suffering to hatred. it will do you no good. instead make them positive energies to treat your mother nicer. buy her new clothes with your own money. talk to her. it makes a world of difference to her.Originally posted by bismarck:she's doing nothing except just paying off his debts loh. silently doing so. i have an exceptionally strong response to things related to my dad only. -
u mind if i tell this to my dad ? bet he will froth.Originally posted by dragg:most of the ppl who invested lost. his father belongs to the majority. you are the one who dont understand the big picture. govt also reported that out of the people who invested with their CPF 80% lost. so who are the majority?
stop the silly comparison to warren buffet. how many warren buffets are there in the world?
fund managers are the big players. they control most of the money moving in and out of stock markets. they are the one who won all the hard-earned money of retail investors. do you know how many people actually lost to make a warren buffet?
you are talking big just because you won a bit of money. i have seen, known and heard of people who won and thought it was easy. most people win for a start. it is only towards the later part that they start to lose. this is the typical result of 'gambling'. mind you, stock markets are just 'legalised casinos'.
very few people can beat the fund managers. they are the one who control the market. they are the eventual winners.
you trade shares using your father's money, you said so in another thread!! nothing against you but i do hope you can prove that when you start to trade with your own money temptation wont get the better of your judgement. coz it is temptation that beats most 'gamblers'.
just kidding.
frankly speaking, u just summed up all the mirage abt shares trading.
my dad initially won some money. then as time went by, he lost and lost and lost.
i suggest u just dun care abt him. he's so convinced he's those will earn big bucks and beat the entire system hands down. -
my classmate's father was in the same situation as me except that he was just a client and was blacklisted when he couldnt pay upOriginally posted by klydeer:i think it is very OK to have strong responses given your circumstances. your situation is really knotted. i know of many families like yours. as long as the other parent is giving in, the children suffers tremendously. but i would like to caution of turning this suffering to hatred. it will do you no good. instead make them positive energies to treat your mother nicer. buy her new clothes with your own money. talk to her. it makes a world of difference to her.
shade....yr name pops up whenever i recall this...
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ok...put it this way. By using the phrase "legalised casino" you imply that the stock market is a form of gambling. I beg to differ. When you invest in shares, you are giving a portion of your money to the comapny. In exchange, you are entitled to a share of the company's profits.Originally posted by dragg:most of the ppl who invested lost. his father belongs to the majority. you are the one who dont understand the big picture. govt also reported that out of the people who invested with their CPF 80% lost. so who are the majority?
stop the silly comparison to warren buffet. how many warren buffets are there in the world?
fund managers are the big players. they control most of the money moving in and out of stock markets. they are the one who won all the hard-earned money of retail investors. do you know how many people actually lost to make a warren buffet?
you are talking big just because you won a bit of money. i have seen, known and heard of people who won and thought it was easy. most people win for a start. it is only towards the later part that they start to lose. this is the typical result of 'gambling'. mind you, stock markets are just 'legalised casinos'.
very few people can beat the fund managers. they are the one who control the market. they are the eventual winners.
you trade shares using your father's money, you said so in another thread!! nothing against you but i do hope you can prove that when you start to trade with your own money temptation wont get the better of your judgement. coz it is temptation that beats most 'gamblers'.
Its a win win situation. However, in the case of gambling, there is no form of investment. What do you gain when you part your money at the blackjack table?Do you get back a share of the casino's profits? No. YOu only get entertainment and a small chance to triple your money. thus when you gamble, you have actually put yourself into a lose win situation as the casino will have a higher odd of winning your money.
Investing requires you to do your homework. If you dont do your homework, you have just put yourself at a higher risk of losing your money. Gambling requires no homework. At the most, you just need to learn how to play the game and lose your money.
Btw, not all funds make money. I have always advised my relatives and my friend;s grandma NEVER to put their money with fund managers. Fund managers always charge a service fees whether or not the fund makes a profit.
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u moron, so putting yr money in shares will get profits huh. sure get huh.Originally posted by shade343:ok...put it this way. By using the phrase "legalised casino" you imply that the stock market is a form of gambling. I beg to differ. When you invest in shares, you are giving a portion of your money to the comapny. In exchange, you are entitled to a share of the company's profits.
Its a win win situation. However, in the case of gambling, there is no form of investment. What do you gain when you part your money at the blackjack table?Do you get back a share of the casino's profits? No. YOu only get entertainment and a small chance to triple your money. thus when you gamble, you have actually put yourself into a lose win situation as the casino will have a higher odd of winning your money.
Investing requires you to do your homework. If you dont do your homework, you have just put yourself at a higher risk of losing your money. Gambling requires no homework. At the most, you just need to learn how to play the game and lose your money.
Btw, not all funds make money. I have always advised my relatives and my friend;s grandma NEVER to put their money with fund managers. Fund managers always charge a service fees whether or not the fund makes a profit.
So there is a very big difference between investing and gambling. Please do not lump them together.
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I did not say that EVERY investment decision you make will result in a profit. If that was the case I would have open a shop an start selling bubble tea at $10 a cup.Originally posted by bismarck:u moron, so putting yr money in shares will get profits huh. sure get huh.
stupid
like that i also want, i give company 5,000, can i get back 10,000? stupid
Im very sure that you know that every investment decision a person makes will come with its own risk.
What I am saying is: If you do your home work and research on shares, you would have gotten a good idea on what the risk factor of investing in the company's share is. I have said before that not every company share I invested in made money, but on the average, the value of my portfolio has risen by almost 50% based on my initial margin.
So If you have done your homework, I dont see a reason why you cant make money.
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sounds familiar.Originally posted by shade343:I did not say that EVERY investment decision you make will result in a profit. If that was the case I would have open a shop an start selling bubble tea at $10 a cup.
Im very sure that you know that every investment decision a person makes will come with its own risk.
What I am saying is: If you do your home work and research on shares, you would have gotten a good idea on what the risk factor of investing in the company's share is. I have said before that not every company share I invested in made money, but on the average, the value of my portfolio has risen by almost 50% based on my initial margin.
So If you have done your homework, I dont see a reason why you cant make money.
then why those who write all those crap books abt earning bucks from share dont go play it themselves ?
sure beats spending mths to write a bloody book and biting their nails to see whtehr fools like u pick it up, thinking it's bible.
reminds me of addicted gamblers who think they bet even more to beat the system