What he wants?
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Hey Yun... what is it about leos that make it interesting?? From what I read leos are supposed to be extroverted right? Or again its applies only in a western context ?Originally posted by Yunhaier:
That's why Venus Mars book isn't necessary a good book. Although it opens your mind to some school of thought in Love, but it's all too commercialized and written based on western context. For Asian mindset and attitude towards Love, there is a need to remodify.
Leo?
Well, interesting.
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Originally posted by browniebaobao:well, a pisces may find herself not behaving like a pisces, but have characteristics of other horoscopes. Aries might give pple the impression tat she should be pisces and not aries. Haha.. how do u explain that?
Is that confusing? How can one be so sure that an aries can/will/shall only have the characteristics of aries and not others? So how can one actually tell the character/thinking/strength and weakness a person really has? 
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Originally posted by browniebaobao:well, a pisces may find herself not behaving like a pisces, but have characteristics of other horoscopes. Aries might give pple the impression tat she should be pisces and not aries. Haha.. how do u explain that?
Is that confusing? How can one be so sure that an aries can/will/shall only have the characteristics of aries and not others? So how can one actually tell the character/thinking/strength and weakness a person really has That's because your knowledge of astrology limits to that of Sun sign, which is although important, but it doesn't says about the whole picture of a individual person through astrology. An Aries not behaving like an Aries throughout his life, although he/she is still an Aries, is because in our birth chart, actually, all 12 signs of zodiac are involved and as well as 9 planets and 2 luminaries (Sun & Moon). Each of these things gives an astrological influence over a person, based on its position on your birth chart, whether it creates a stress/harmonious influence.
For example; yunhaier's a Leo (Sun Sign), however
My Moon Sign lies in sign of Aries
Venus lies in Sign of Virgo
Mercury lies in Sign of Virgo
Mars lies in Sign of Scorpio
Jupiter lies in Sign of Capricorn
Saturn lies in Sign of Scorpio
Neptune lies in Sign of Sagittarius
Pluto lies in Sign of Libra
So obviously, even without other consideration, a person's Sun Sign will not determine every single personality and characteristic because there are many, many other factors. Some people feel that certain signs are more like them, instead of their Sun Sign, because there have prominent planets/positioning/aspects within the birth chart that are much more influential.
P.S: In fact, Astrology is the closest discipline to understanding how Love works, something that other field of Science has little answer for (Psychology does as well, but not to that full extend).
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I will share with you this article:
The word "astrology" comes ultimately from two Greek words - "astron" meaning "star" and "logos" meaning "discourse." Merriam-Webster defines it as "1. Practical astronomy. 2. The pseudo science which treats of the influences of the stars upon human affairs, and of foretelling terrestrial events by their positions and aspects."
Now, Merriam-Webster makes good dictionaries and the definition is a good one except for one word "pseudo." That word is defined in the same dictionary as "sham; feigned; spurious."
Let's tackle this problem right away because you're going to hear the same thing from some of your relatives and friends.
From the time of the Industrial Revolution, with its technological focus on man, it has been regarded as smart and fashionable to think of anything that was not materialistic in outlook as "sham; feigned; spurious." Science would answer all man's questions and cure all his problems. Well, it hasn't happened and it never will.
It is true that astrology is not as much of a slave of the "scientific method" as physics and chemistry are. It is also true that astrology has more than its fair share of quacks and charlatans and that there were many dark years when astrology was in disrepute. It was during those years that Merriam Webster and others casually referred to astrology as being "pseudo," as if there wasn't even another side to the story.
All that has changed, however, and it is certain that dictionaries will delete the prejudicial "pseudo" from the definition in forthcoming editions. Let's look at the facts.
The respected science of astronomy was at one time a branch of astrology, which was broken down into four divisions:
Natural Astrology: The study of the motion of the heavenly bodies and their effects upon earth such as earthquakes) weather, etc.
Judicial Astrology: Nations and governments as they are affected by celestial bodies.
Genethliacal Astrology: Pertaining to birth or "genesis."
Horary Astrology: Applying astrology to some specific question of the moment - of the "hour" ("hora" is Latin for "hour")
Natural Astrology became Astronomy while Judicial and Horary Astrology have become specialities of certain astrologers. Genethliacal has blossomed into the more popular and easier-to-pronounce "Natal Astrology". This course covers all branches but concentrates on Natal.
Astronomy isn't the only science connected with astrology. Hippocrates, the founder of medical science and author of the famous physicians' oath, was an astrologer. Copernicus learned his basic science at an astrology school founded by the King of Poland. Ptolemy and Sir Isaac Newton were astrologers. Mark Twain estimated the period in which his own death might occur by astrology, and it did.
In our day there has been a tremendous rebirth of interest in - and corresponding respect for - astrology. Our space program verified many of the cosmobiological claims of astrology. The discovery of electro-magnetic forces within the human body and the same forces in the atmosphere have revived "respectable" scientific theories that there may be a connection between the forces in our bodies and the influences of the heavenly bodies. After all, our bodies are 80% water. If the moon can influence the water in the ocean, why not in our bodies? Sunspots cause changes in the weather, why not in us? The sun warms vast bodies of water and, as we all know, the human body is mostly water.
It has recently been determined that an electric charge sent into a human cell will be emitted in a distinct wave pattern. Each human cell is 80% water. They are all being continuously exposed to electric waves from outer space as well as the moon and the sun. Current research shows that a cancerous cell emits a different wave pattern than a healthy cell!
A two year study by the: police, hospitals and the University of Pennsylvania in Philadelphia, observed human reactions to the phases of the moon. Part of the report states: "Crime against the person seem to increase as the night of the Full Moon draws near. People whose anti-social behavior has psychotic roots (firebugs, kleptomaniacs and homicidal alcoholics) seem to go on a rampage as the Moon turns full, and remember the moon is only refracting sunlight to the earth when we are on the dark side of the sun. They calm down when the Moon begins to crescent."
A Northwestern University professor performed an extremely interesting and now well known experiment showing the moon's influence on oysters. Dr. Frank Brown, a biologist, transferred a shipment of oysters from New Haven, Conn. to Evanston, III., where he immersed them in a tank of sea water. For two weeks they opened and closed their shells in rhythm with the tides at New Haven. Then a strange thing happened, in spite of the fact that the nearest ocean was 500 miles away, the oysters began to open and close in time to the tides that would have existed if there were an ocean in Illinois. Since there were no actual tides in Illinois, it was clear that the moon, itself caused the oysters to react in this manner. It is not in the province of astrology to explain why this happened. The astrologer says that the moon had an effect upon the oysters and that is all. The moon is just one of the celestial bodies, and oysters are living organisms.
Astrology is gaining worldwide acceptance and from all indications this new found interest in the Astrological method will continue to increase. Surprisingly, much of this new found interest is among Europeans who once would have mocked the notion that celestial bodies influence human affairs.
The study of the stars as a guide to behavior, personality and a way of life is receiving its most serious appraisal since it was swept off the shelf of respectable divisions of learning, during the first few hundred years A.D. Not long ago, Astrology was strictly a study for the untutored and anyone with a lot of spare time on their hands. Now, however, it has attracted many educated people and it is even a subject of university debate.
Most striking is that thousands of well educated Frenchmen, Germans and other Europeans regularly consult Astrologers or cast their own horoscopes without displaying the least bit of sheepishness about admitting it. France's president, Georges Pompidou readily confessed at a recent press conference that he follows the prophecies of his country's most renouned Astrologer, Madame Solei, with deep interest. At least one prominent French politician is reliably said to consult his Astrologer before making important public speeches.
That the various parts of the universe as well as earth itself influence human behavior is among mankind's oldest beliefs. Until nearly the middle of the 17th Century, it easily commanded as much prestige as the natural sciences. From the time of Sir Isaac Newton, however, the rapid development of natural science coupled with its pretensions of possessing the exclusive key to "truth" condemned Astrology to 500 years of intellectual stagnancy. Yet, we feel that Astrology has answers which the physical sciences do not. This is a direct cause of the now obvious limitations of these physical sciences. They evidently do not answer all the questions which perplex man. Astrology, more than any other science, explains the basic nature of the Universe and man's part in it. The questions Why? and What For? can effectively be answered only through Astrology. No other science seeks to explain the nature of human life in such a realistic way. Astrology is easily the most powerful tool for measuring any man's character and emotional constitution.
It is high time that man should realize what a tremendous help Astrology can be to create a better understanding among men whether at the individual level, the industrial level or most importantly at the international political level where we find the horrible seeds of genocide. It is our intention in this course to help to spread the true value of Astrology. We can train and unite competent Astrologers throughout the world and together we can reduce the elements causing riots, ware, revolutions, and other major and minor unfortunate misunderstandings among men. We can do this because Astrology teaches us not only to analyze ourselves but also to understand the behavior of our fellow man in its entirety. Let us now look at the basic principles behind Astrology. We are establishing Astro centers, birth information centers which will not only guide man and woman in this profound phase of love and life but also educate them to avoid abnormal births; to understand their offspring and one another as parts of an ever changing universe. (If you are interested in this program let us know with a short note and we will consider you for this special area). Our students are located all over the World and we intend to have centers at all locations sponsored financed and guided by our school and its alumni. The centers will also guide its clients in marriage and all other major life decisions and relations of humans to humans.
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Originally posted by DriftingGuy:Hey Yun... what is it about leos that make it interesting?? From what I read leos are supposed to be extroverted right? Or again its applies only in a western context ? Nothing interesting or what lar... some thoughts just came to me.. something personal nia.
Yeah, Leo have sunny personality that supposedly makes them an extrovert. But then again, among the three fire signs, Leo is probably the most passive among them, because of the Fixed quality that exist in the lion. Nevertheless, it doesn't eliminate the fact that they are fun loving, great to hang around and being the life of the party.
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Is there an anti-leo? Being a leo myself I aint exactly the life of the party.. more like the shadow that wouldn't leaveOriginally posted by Yunhaier: Nothing interesting or what lar... some thoughts just came to me.. something personal nia.
Yeah, Leo have sunny personality that supposedly makes them an extrovert. But then again, among the three fire signs, Leo is probably the most passive among them, because of the Fixed quality that exist in the lion. Nevertheless, it doesn't eliminate the fact that they are fun loving, great to hang around and being the life of the party.
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Originally posted by DriftingGuy:Is there an anti-leo? Being a leo myself I aint exactly the life of the party.. more like the shadow that wouldn't leave Then it depends on the formation of your birth chart and the astrological influence that creates the trend in you. Seriously, I try not to be overly 'astrologically-minded' here, as afterall, this is an Aunt Agony forum, and not LOA or SOA. If you are really interested or have questions, you can seek advice from the respective forums.
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Hi everyone, its me again.Originally posted by Mr Normal:I think Yunhaier gave a pretty good theory on the cavemen theory.
Guys need some time alone to sort out issues and unlike girls, most don't talk to their buddies. Help your guy on this 'transition' period, and maybe your relationship will become stronger than before.
Anyway, it is not healthy to give an ultimum(wrong spelling) on relationship, emotions are not a black-and-white contract or agreement in life. You are giving yourself pressure and if he knows about it, it will further put the r/s into jeopardy. If you really do love him, be patient and be there when he finally needs to open up and talks about it.
Back to my problem. Talked to my bf recently on what is the problem becos he thinks we are working things out, but I don't see how we are doing it (we met up for dinner and movie once each). He still sms me almost daily, becos he wants to stay in touch (???).
Just last week, I had a "lost" mind, and avoid him for a day. It got him very upset and miserable that he i didnt answer nor reply his calls & smses. Finally he emailed me, venting his misery (though he said there was another email, which he didnt send).
On that, i decided to talk to him and try to figure out the problem together. Though he didnt say much, I gathered that he is pressured that his career is getting nowhere and that time is working against him. He also mentioned that he hates it when i ignore his calls/smses as it will caused his imgination run wild (like am i out with some other guy or such). Anyway, he said that he is going away for a 3-wk business trip soon and we shall see how things turn out. He said we could still keep in touch while he is away...
Saw him yesterday again, for a moive. He seems quite distanced. So i asked him after the movie if he is happy to see me. He told me he is, otherwise he wun want to meet me. But then his behaviour during the movie or on the way home seems otherwise.
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ask him to write a letter on wat he want 2 say to u..Originally posted by Vilue:When a guy say he want to talk to you about ur relationship problem, but when he sees you, he just keep slient? So what does that mean? He doesnt know how to start or he is just saying to for the sake of it?
My bf n me are going through this now. 1 mth ago, he just suddenly says he doesnt knowwhat he wants, doesnt know if there is a future for us. I told him that we should take time apart and think abt it. Of cos, during this period he still remain in contact with me. But whenever i ask him if he wants to talk abt our problem, he just says to give him more time and do things slowly.
I keep telling him we cant avoid our problem. If there is no future for us, then we should move on. He just says he knows but keep quiet. Even when we met, he didnt look me in the face when i asked him if he wants to talk about our problem. I keep telling him we should talk and even if he cant give any promises, at least he can be honest about it and not just give execuses and hide. Still he just says he knows and understand but didnt talk.
Im really clueless about what he is up to. He is afraid that i'm seeing someone else, yet he doesnt want to make an effort to talk. Just tell me he very very stress with work. Even if want more time, he cant say how long i have to wait for him to talk.
What does he wants?
my goodness...how u define him as not toking to u?
u mean even u ask him some casual q, he keep mum?
dats a funny scenario, n unless he has bad breath n not wana turn u off..
but then again..bad breath can be eliminated ..
tok to him lah..he may b e passive, unexpressive type..u wana get answers, then u ask e person questions..
Learn to b more daring ..now comin to 2006 n u stil xpect guys to initiate everythang..count urself fortunate dat u hav some1 admiring u compared to someothers who r not attched n still clueless on e type of partner they lookin for!
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looks like ur r/s cannot stand the test of time... but dun b too bother what we type. the answer lies in urself.. u and him. i dun mean both of u. u and him.Originally posted by Vilue:Hi everyone, its me again.
Back to my problem. Talked to my bf recently on what is the problem becos he thinks we are working things out, but I don't see how we are doing it (we met up for dinner and movie once each). He still sms me almost daily, becos he wants to stay in touch (???).
Just last week, I had a "lost" mind, and avoid him for a day. It got him very upset and miserable that he i didnt answer nor reply his calls & smses. Finally he emailed me, venting his misery (though he said there was another email, which he didnt send).
On that, i decided to talk to him and try to figure out the problem together. Though he didnt say much, I gathered that he is pressured that his career is getting nowhere and that time is working against him. He also mentioned that he hates it when i ignore his calls/smses as it will caused his imgination run wild (like am i out with some other guy or such). Anyway, he said that he is going away for a 3-wk business trip soon and we shall see how things turn out. He said we could still keep in touch while he is away...
Saw him yesterday again, for a moive. He seems quite distanced. So i asked him after the movie if he is happy to see me. He told me he is, otherwise he wun want to meet me. But then his behaviour during the movie or on the way home seems otherwise.
Is it me that is over-reacting or things are truely turning bad?
u went for a movie, but u should hv spent quality time talking to each other instead, to clear misunderstanding n get more involve in caring for each another. no it dun mean letting him into ur pants or another.