Im in pain!!
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Originally posted by binZ:
Sometimes, it helps to understand the person and background first before dispensing advice.
let us dun rub it in bah. no matter what sort of person he is, tat his problem.. we give whatever advice we know and let him sort out the mess himsef.
karma or not.. time will tell.
If you looked through most of the threads in this forum, you would find many similar problems which could be grouped together, but that does not necessarily mean the solutions previously applicable to a poster would be again applicable to another as well.
The problem may be generic, but the solutions are often specific as each person is unique and could have different perspectives to the same problem. -
I fully agree with Tuatau. That's why I keep advocating the need to seek professional advice. Even if it's not clinical depression, at least you know.Originally posted by Tuatau:Sometimes, it helps to understand the person and background first before dispensing advice.
If you looked through most of the threads in this forum, you would find many similar problems which could be grouped together, but that does not necessarily mean the solutions previously applicable to a poster would be again applicable to another as well.
The problem may be generic, but the solutions are often specific as each person is unique and could have different perspectives to the same problem. -
Im sure ur get urs back too.Originally posted by rainee:he is getting his karma back
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We all will get ours in due time.Originally posted by Wolfwoof^^:Im sure ur get urs back too.
You take care of yours. -
break up or seek shelter in the arms of a hooker.Originally posted by Wolfwoof^^:I have tis gf who's suffering from depression. When shes normal. everything is ok..but when moodswings kicks in, she'll behave in a strange manner. Totally different person.. she realli disappoint me.
I tried to tolerate her, console her & counsel her but all i get is a cold attitude towards me. when i have thoughts of breaking up with her, all the things she had done for me came up in my brain... im in pain!
Then after sometime she'll be alright..loving, caring & thoughtful. My frds advise me to give her up but i... im confuse. Fyi, she had dump me for 7th time during our rs. Im so tired, so sick & so low morale
God help me.. argh, Y heaven make fun of me.. -
Wolf,
there's something I find very strange about your case..
Most of us agree that she is suffering from some form of depression...
A person who suffers from depression will naturally cling on to the people she needs or loves.
Because of that sense of abadonment they will feel...they will be desperate for attention from people when the depression kicks in.
Then why is that your girl decides to run AWAY from you instead? (and she ran away 7 times) when her depression kicks in?
Have you actually asked her how she feels about her ex-bf ?
Does she still has feelings for the ex-bf ?
She loves her ex more than you? -
Dump & patcching back all done by her leh.Originally posted by curiousOrange:Wolf,
there's something I find very strange about your case..
Most of us agree that she is suffering from some form of depression...
A person who suffers from depression will naturally cling on to the people she needs or loves.
Because of that sense of abadonment they will feel...they will be desperate for attention from people when the depression kicks in.
Then why is that your girl decides to run AWAY from you instead? (and she ran away 7 times) when her depression kicks in?
Have you actually asked her how she feels about her ex-bf ?
Does she still has feelings for the ex-bf ?
She loves her ex more than you? -
Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD)Originally posted by Wolfwoof^^:Dump & patcching back all done by her leh.
When you are in the relationship with herÂ…do the following happen?
Do you find yourself concealing what you think or feel because you're afraid of the other person's reaction or because it just doesn't seem worth the horrible fight or hurt feelings that will follow?
Do you feel that anything you say or do will be twisted and used against you? Are you blamed and criticized for everything wrong in the relationship-even when it makes no logical sense?
Are you the focus of intense, violent, and irrational rages, alternating with periods when the other person acts perfectly normal and loving? Does no one believe you when you explain that this is going on?
Do you feel like you're the victim of emotional blackmail?
Are you accused of doing things you never did and saying things you never said? Do you feel misunderstood a great deal of the time, and when you try to explain do you find that the other person doesn't believe you?
Are you constantly being put down? When you try to leave the relationship does the other person try to prevent you from leaving in a variety of ways (anything from declarations of love and promises to change to implicit or explicit threats)?
Do you have a hard time planning anything (social engagements, etc.) because of the other person's moodiness, impulsiveness, or unpredictability?
Indicators of BPD
Feel abandoned at the slightest provocation
Have extreme moodiness that cycles very quickly (in minutes or hours)
Have difficulty managing their emotions
Feel emotions so intensely that it's difficult to put others' needs-even those of their own children-ahead of their own
Feel distrustful and suspicious a great deal of the time
Feel anxious or irritable a great deal of the time
Feel empty or like they have no self a great deal of the time
Feel ignored when they are not the focus of attention
Alternately want to be close to others, then distance themselves
(Examples include picking fights when things are going well or alternately ending relationships and then trying to get back together.)
Alternate between idealizing people and devaluing them
Cut people out of their life over issues that seem trivial or overblown
For the more severe cases
Act impulsively in ways that are potentially self-damaging, such as spending too much, engaging in dangerous sex, fighting, gambling, abusing drugs or alcohol, reckless driving, shoplifting, or disordered eating
Mutilate themselves-for example, purposely cutting or burning their skin
Threaten to kill themselves-or make actual suicide attempts
Physically abuse others, such as slapping, kicking, and scratching them
If she display a lot of these symptoms, it is better for you to persuade her to seek professional help before it becomes more severe.
Link for you to find out more :
http://www.bpdcentral.com/resources/basics/main.shtml -
pls, guys! if you don't want to help, pls do not rejoice at wolf's pain by mentioning karma!
whatever he posted in the past might be crap (and for fuck we bother).
pple coming here asking for help, pls... -
This is applicable to many, depressive or not depressive.. I believe it could be attention-seeking behaviour. Therefore, running away is still attention seeking because it could get Wolf getting more anxious - hence checking her own self-worth, or rather checking if she is still important to Wolf. Going back to Wolf is natural, i.e. wanting someone to be there for her.Originally posted by curiousOrange:Wolf,
there's something I find very strange about your case..
Most of us agree that she is suffering from some form of depression...
A person who suffers from depression will naturally cling on to the people she needs or loves.
Because of that sense of abadonment they will feel...they will be desperate for attention from people when the depression kicks in.
Then why is that your girl decides to run AWAY from you instead? (and she ran away 7 times) when her depression kicks in?
Have you actually asked her how she feels about her ex-bf ?
Does she still has feelings for the ex-bf ?
She loves her ex more than you?
Normal for a depressive to seek and try all possible kinds of coping mechanisms. -
Sorry...but then it sounds more like a personality disorder rather than depression.Originally posted by Wolfwoof^^:She can total ignore me, abuse me mentally & when she gets into moodswings, she'll find quarrel with me
Usually people who are disgnoised with depression, they are more reserved and gets violent (or more violent than usual) only when irritated.
Depression
Persistent sad, anxious, or "empty" mood
Feelings of hopelessness, pessimism
Feelings of guilt, worthlessness, helplessness
Loss of interest or pleasure in hobbies and activities that were once enjoyed, including sex
Decreased energy, fatigue, being "slowed down"
Difficulty concentrating, remembering, making decisions
Insomnia, early-morning awakening, or oversleeping
Appetite and/or weight loss or overeating and weight gain
Thoughts of death or suicide; suicide attempts
Restlessness, irritability
Persistent physical symptoms that do not respond to treatment, such as headaches, digestive disorders, and chronic pain
There's too much to pen it down here.
My only advise is to bring her to see a shrink before it gets worsen if she's really down with personailty disorder or depression. -
Originally posted by ellisbeck:
Very logical.
This is applicable to many, depressive or not depressive.. I believe it could be attention-seeking behaviour. Therefore, running away [b]is still attention seeking because it could get Wolf getting more anxious - hence checking her own self-worth, or rather checking if she is still important to Wolf. Going back to Wolf is natural, i.e. wanting someone to be there for her.
Normal for a depressive to seek and try all possible kinds of coping mechanisms.[/b]
Wolf, the hardest part is to get her to realise she might need medical attention.
Maybe, bring her to talk to her family doctor first? The doctor might have some records of her problems and might be able to recommend the best course. -
Heaven never ever make fun of anyone. This I learn it very well.Originally posted by Wolfwoof^^:I have tis gf who's suffering from depression. When shes normal. everything is ok..but when moodswings kicks in, she'll behave in a strange manner. Totally different person.. she realli disappoint me. I tried to tolerate her, console her & counsel her but all i get is a cold attitude towards me. when i have thoughts of breaking up with her, all the things she had done for me came up in my brain... im in pain!
Then after sometime she'll be alright..loving, caring & thoughtful. My frds advise me to give her up but i... im confuse. Fyi, she had dump me for 7th time during our rs. Im so tired, so sick & so low morale
God help me.. argh, Y heaven make fun of me..
Is a phase in your life you must face.
Stop blaming everyone.
The real test is how much do your really love her? If you love her then stop your complains about her and focus on her problem properly. Go and find a doc and really spent time to go to the doc with her.
If you really want her to be better then u had better start with some actions. The longer u drag the more pain you will suffer.
Just a question what happen to her ex ? Why they break up?
Have you spoken to her mum about her problem? -
Originally posted by laosu:Depression
Persistent sad, anxious, or "empty" mood
Feelings of hopelessness, pessimism
Feelings of guilt, worthlessness, helplessness
Loss of interest or pleasure in hobbies and activities that were once enjoyed, including sex
Decreased energy, fatigue, being "slowed down"
Difficulty concentrating, remembering, making decisions
Insomnia, early-morning awakening, or oversleeping
Appetite and/or weight loss or overeating and weight gain
Thoughts of death or suicide; suicide attempts
Restlessness, irritability
Persistent physical symptoms that do not respond to treatment, such as headaches, digestive disorders, and chronic pain
except for the last point. I have all the symptoms. -
we are all not psychologist or psychiatrist, so don't diagnose what can be a serious medical problem.
If this is a true story, then bring her to consult a physician as soon as possible. -
Originally posted by M©+square:
Do you really have the following symptom? except for the last point. I have all the symptoms.
"Loss of interest or pleasure in ... activities that were once enjoyed, including sex"
Maybe you need you-know-who to help you revive that interest? -
u are the one with depression is it?
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Originally posted by M©+square: except for the last point. I have all the symptoms.
Congrats MC@
Welcome to the club -
....that's why you see me sleeping at 7am every morning.Originally posted by laosu:
Congrats MC@
Welcome to the club -
hmmm... *pouts*Originally posted by laosu:Sorry...but then it sounds more like a personality disorder rather than depression.
Usually people who are disgnoised with depression, they are more reserved and gets violent (or more violent than usual) only when irritated.
Depression
Persistent sad, anxious, or "empty" mood
Feelings of hopelessness, pessimism
Feelings of guilt, worthlessness, helplessness
Loss of interest or pleasure in hobbies and activities that were once enjoyed, including sex
Decreased energy, fatigue, being "slowed down"
Difficulty concentrating, remembering, making decisions
Insomnia, early-morning awakening, or oversleeping
Appetite and/or weight loss or overeating and weight gain
Thoughts of death or suicide; suicide attempts
Restlessness, irritability
Persistent physical symptoms that do not respond to treatment, such as headaches, digestive disorders, and chronic pain
There's too much to pen it down here.
My only advise is to bring her to see a shrink before it gets worsen if she's really down with personailty disorder or depression. -
HAHAHAHA!!Originally posted by M©+square:....that's why you see me sleeping at 7am every morning.
i'm not much better than you...
I sleep at almost 6 every morning. 
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Originally posted by Ito_^:hmmm... *pouts*
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If u dont believe it then dont bother posting in my topic.Originally posted by rainee:we are all not psychologist or psychiatrist, so don't diagnose what can be a serious medical problem.
If this is a true story, then bring her to consult a physician as soon as possible.
thks. -
is that all you have to post?Originally posted by Wolfwoof^^:If u dont believe it then dont bother posting in my topic.
thks. -
I dont wana quarrel wif any1 anymore..Originally posted by M©+square:is that all you have to post?